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Understood, thanks. Zaathras (talk) 02:52, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

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Zaathras (talk) 13:35, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Racial Views of Donald Trump

Hi, saw you reverted some of my edits to the Racial Views of Donald Trump page with the comment "Whitewashing". I've raised it on the talk page, perhaps you could explain what you meant. As far as I can tell the only whitewashing is the attempt to eliminate anything that contradicts the page's narrative. Rambo Apocalypse (talk) 15:29, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

May 2020

This is your only warning; if you remove or change other editors' legitimate talk page comments again, as you did at Talk:Joe Biden, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Rusf10 (talk) 22:30, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

First off, you have no authoritative backing to issue warnings, so we can laugh that one off. Second, "legitimate talk page comments" is not accurate. You templated a user, you didn't comment. Removing your wrongly-applied template is not changing your talk page comments, as it wasn't actually a comment. Zaathras (talk) 01:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

You obviously don't take any of this seriously. There are very few instances where it is acceptable to revert someone on a talk page. Second, what authority do you have to lecture me on SPA accounts, which is not the same thing as a sockpuppet. You yourself are a borderline SPA. I've never heard anyone use the phrase "Go outside and jerk yourself a soda", but I don't like the way it sounds, read WP:CIVILITY. Please don't continue down this road because it will eventually lead to a block or ban.--Rusf10 (talk) 04:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

It'll lead to a block or ban for you buddy bro, if you keep using templates incorrectly. I will see to it that you stop harassing that user. As for the quote, it is from Bugsy. Zaathras (talk) 12:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. - Alexis Jazz 18:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I have responded to the best of my ability, and have nothing further to add. Zaathras (talk) 21:43, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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The following sanction now applies to you:

You have been topic banned from all pages and discussions concerning post-1932 American politics for six months. Please read WP:TBAN to see what "topic banned" means.

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This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Johnuniq (talk) 05:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Johnuniq (talk) 05:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

6 months seems a bit hefty for infraction #1, but whatevs.

A shame this didn't get rolling a few days earlier, 11/28/20 is 2 days past Thanksgiving. Zaathras (talk) 18:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

You're right, it is hefty. The diffs showed a very inappropriate approach. An appeal after three months of collaborative editing in other areas might be successful. Johnuniq (talk) 01:29, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

+1. Zaathras (talk) 02:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

If it's important to you, then I think you should appeal right now.  What puzzles me is why anyone thinks you should have to put up with Rusf10 (or any editor) going to your personal talk page to threaten you & to forcefully attack you personally. Now grant it, I've only been here a very short 35 days so I'm learning the rules, but from what little I know of the WP guidelines, it seems to me that Rusf10 was "bludgeoning" by starting a 'survey' that had already been closed just days before (because he/she did not like the results of the other survey) & then he/she started an edit war with SPECIFICO & you by inappropriately tagging me an SPA.  And instead of ending his/her edit war, Rusf10 personally attacked you & SPECIFICO on the article's talk page & then he/she went to your personal talk page to threaten you, to silence you.

I'm not 2nd guessing the Admin, who know far more than I do about the WP rules, but as far as a "topic ban" goes, out of the 8 diffs Rusf10 is complaining about, only 2 of the 8 were on a political talk page, 3 of the 8 were on non-political talk pages that had zero (0) to do with politics, and the last 3 of the 8 were you defending yourself on your personal talk page against Rusf10's threats & personal attacks against you.  I don't know, like I said, the Admin knows for more than me, but, if it's important to you, then I think you should appeal right now. And by the way, I've seen far worse said on WP talk pages than what you wrote and, in those cases, no one got topic banned.

Finally, I would like to say "thank you" for defending me against Rusf10's unfounded and inappropriate tagging of me. As one long-time editor wrote on within Rusf10's survey: "I absolutely agree. BetsyRMadison's account does not have the typical characteristics associated with an SPA. I see no evidence whatsoever that this editor exhibits ... Therefore, tagging BetsyRMadison's account as an SPA is inappropriate. In fact, I would argue that in this case the act is designed to unduly influence a potential closer of this discussion, which is WORSE than being a niche editor."

So, once again, thank you, I truly appreciate you sticking your neck out to defend me. WP needs editors like you. BetsyRMadison (talk) 12:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate it, but around here is really is like the old schoolyard days where if the bully punches you and you punch back, the teacher only tends to see punch #2. The Three-fold Law will lead to some of the names at that discussion being dragged there themselves someday, I have no doubt. Zaathras (talk) 14:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@BetsyRMadison: I made the report, not Rusf10. Zaathras should have discussed the SPA thing on Rusf10's talk page, and if that didn't work out, report the issue elsewhere. But that wasn't even what I created the report for. Zaathras was not working with other editors but on several occasions against them. That doesn't help the project, so I reported it. - Alexis Jazz 11:19, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

To Alexis Jazz - You say you "created a report" because in your mind, he/she was "was not working with other editors but on several occasions against them." Yet, in your filed report you did not mention any such thing.  So would you be so kind as to address them here? 

1. Can you give specific examples of projects is Z working on that you feel he/she is not working with editors but against them?
2. Does the "Topic Ban" include topics that cover topics/projects Z is working on that you feel Z works against editors?
3. Do you feel that it would have been better for you to resolve your real concerns if you would have listed the projects and explained in detail your real concerns within the complaint you filed so an Admin can help you solve your true concerns?

Alexis, I know that both you & Z volunteer your time and work hard to improve WP articles. So I feel you both deserve to have your real concerns be discussed and resolved. None of us are perfect, we all make mistakes, and when we do, it's best to be honest with ourselves and each other so we can resolve issues and work together. In my view, it will be impossible for you to get your real concerns resolved if Z does not know what your real concerns are. So I hope you will take time address them here. Thanks BetsyRMadison (talk) 13:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)