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Tech News: 2020-23

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22:31, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar incoming

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thanks Another Wiki User the 2nd (talk) 13:37, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

List of Unicode characters - some errors in this doc:

hi: 

I am working with some C++ programming with char recognition where i am using List of Unicode characters.

 I have found some errors?? on this page - and made a correction yesterday. U+0250 was placed in <Latin Extended-B>
 between C+249 and C+24A - someone must have countrd decimal instate af hex. a very nice gay gave me an answer
  'The edit you made to the Unicode article was valid (u+250 didn't belong in that block), and you correctly used the edit note to say what you had done. But you failed to give the most critical information: why did you do it. If you delete anything, or make an edit that causes information to be lost, you need to use the edit note to give your reason. '

  why! the reason was clear - an error in the table - sorry! 

  i have found 3 more small errors on de page - so if somebody will correct them the right way?

Please help me with... List of Unicode characters

1: U+1E02 is start af table -- U+1E00 & U+E101 is missing - are in Latin Extended Additional (Unicode block)

2: African scripts: Ottoman Siyaq Numbers (Unicode block '0x1ED00 - 0x1ED4F') point to same codepage 

 as       
 Semitic languages:
        Arabic script in Unicode, including the Persian alphabet, Jawi alphabet and others 
           Ottoman Siyaq Numbers (1ED00–1ED4F, 61 characters) --- codepage says it belong to <arabic script>
  I think there was only one definition / owner /

3: IPA Extensions: 

    -  U+0250 	ɐ 	586 	Latin Small Letter Turned A 	--- is decimal value for U+249
    +  U+0250 	ɐ	592 	Latin Small Letter Turned A 	--- must bee the correct decimal value

    this I think is a follow-up of my correction - 'John Maynard Friedman' forgot to correct the decimal count
when he moved C+0250 to the IPA block (where it allready was)

Holger bo hansen (talk) 03:40, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

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21:12, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

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I've seen your contribution for Misplaced Pages and they all are authentic and useful.

Thanks to be a part of Misplaced Pages community. GeorgeTPP (talk) 00:12, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Category:Towns in New South Wales

I notice you are removing this from many categories saying it is not relevant but I do not understand why it is not relevant. Just to pick on one of them e.g. Category:Macksville, New South Wales, why is it not a Town in New South Wales? The article says it is a town in NSW, the NSW Geographic Place Names website says it is a town in NSW. Why is this not a relevant category? Kerry (talk) 21:05, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Kerry Raymond:, this was in relation to a message posted on Category talk:Towns in New South Wales in relation that the sub-cetegories are not the town articles themselves, but however contains locations with the town, therefore should not have the Category:Towns in New South Wales within them as they do not describe the town itself and it just creates a mess of sub-categories on the main category page which may confuse readers. Now I have going though all the sub-cats and removed the root cat, the root cat contains links to the town articles only. Pinging @Dave Rave: for context - Rich 21:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
and now all the subcats you have removed leaving the towns still there, which are already in the subcats in the heading area. Dave Rave (talk) 22:46, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
the category of Macksville is for the things in Macksville, it already contains the town of Macksville, this is a town in NSW. it is already in the cat of Mid North Coast, you need to make a new one for Towns in the Mid North Ocoast. the post office is not a town in nsw, it is a thing in a category. Dave Rave (talk) 11:02, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
@Dave Rave: I'm afraid I could not quite grasp what point Dave Rave was saying on that Talk page. Here in Australia, we have both towns and localities and they are not either/or. Towns are urban areas, while localities relate to the complete subdivision of Australia into bounded areas called localities (or suburbs in urban areas). So somewhere like Macksville is the name of both a town and the locality the town is within (a very common scenario). It is not normal practice to create separate Misplaced Pages articles for the town and for the locality, both the town and its surrounds are discussed in a single article. That is why some categories for NSW places will have Towns in New South Wales as a parent category and others do not (as they are localities without a town). I really think this is quite an important distinction and I suggest that it is discussed at the Misplaced Pages:Australian Wikipedians' notice board as this is a convention used throughout Australia. Not all articles are entirely clear if they are discussing towns or localities or both (it would be better if they did, but not all are written as carefully as we might like). Just to be clear, there are localities without towns (if these have a category, then it is the parent category of the local government area), localities with a small town fully contained within them (if these have a category, then the parent category is the local government area and Towns in StateName), and larger towns which spread over multiple localities/suburbs where the town has its town article in addition to the articles for the localities/suburbs it spans over (if the town article has a category, it will have parent cats for the LGA and Towns in State Name, while is the locality/suburbs have categories, then their parent category will often be Suburbs of TownName, which in turn usually has a parent category of the LGA, but will sometimes just be directly into the LGA category without a "Suburbs of" category (although I would expect sooner or later the "Suburbs of" tends to get created). So there is a fairly high level of consistency in this approach which is being changed here without a lot of discussion. I really think this is a discussion to be had there to gather consensus among the Australian community and then then take it to Categories for Discussion noticeboard before making any mass changes. Kerry (talk) 21:46, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
as I noted, in many more words than I usually do, every town is already an item in a cat of the towns, these aren't town cats I'm talking about, theyre things in the town. Dave Rave (talk) 22:43, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Could we please shift this conversation to Misplaced Pages:Australian Wikipedians' notice board. @Dave Rave: I'm still struggling with the point you are making (not a issue of agree/disagree just not clear what you are trying to achieve and why). Could you give a concrete example of what we currently have and what you think it should be and why? And perhaps a counter-example of what we currently have and should stay that way? Thanks Kerry (talk) 23:12, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

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21:38, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

nukkar

I accidentally linked the two names (nukkar/wahbi) together. Could you check out the two names which are now separate please? Thanks. 92.0.196.8 (talk) 02:18, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

@92.0.196.8: sorry, you meant to request 2 redirects > Nukkari. That correct? - Rich 19:16, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Let me contact my wikipedia mentor

Cleaning up ..

Thanks for your assistance re draft Alexey Morosov JohnTiberi (talk) 14:23, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Nuski

good noon Dear, I am feeling interested to talk with you here. i am Arefin .(a mechanical engineer passed from KUET )......bla bla I want to publish the page on "nuski baby" .Though i'm a new user. hope your assistance will feel me happy finally.


thankx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arefin sazzad (talk • contribs) 14:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Not going to happen, the references do not show notability and some seem to have false information - Rich 14:39, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

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FreeTON page

Hello about this page : https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:FreeTON about the Telegram source, it is the official Durov Telegram channel with verification badge.

would you please tell me which part is the problem ? or which source is not reliable ? thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaiTeex (talk • contribs) 16:10, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@SaiTeex: It's a primary source, and Telegram messages are absolutely not reliable - Rich 16:17, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

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