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The following discussions are requested to have community-wide attention:

Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard

Should Zero Hedge be deprecated as a source, with an edit filter set to warn editors who attempt to use it as a reference? — Newslinger talk 01:54, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Basilica

Should the article "Basilica" also discuss Basilicas in the Catholic Church? There is already a separate article covering this subject exclusively. 12:43, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Taiwan

The Taiwanese government website says Republic of China (Taiwan) is its official name. News articles describe Republic of China as official name. In Misplaced Pages, should we describe the official name as Republic of China (Taiwan) or Republic of China, or both?

Previous discussions: Talk:Taiwan#Republic_of_China_(Taiwan), Talk:Taiwan#Full_Protection_is_not_necessary,Talk:Taiwan#Proposed change.Visaliaw (talk) 05:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Piers Robinson

Should the lead include text that identifies Robinson as a promoter of conspiracy theories (e.g. "conspiracy theorist", someone who "promotes conspiracy theories")? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 14:14, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran

Shall we summarize the following:

According to a BBC article, the US government described the MEK as a "Cult", with one US colonel saying "the organisation was a cult", and yet another retired US general saying "Cult? How about admirably focused group?". United States Department of State describes MEK in a 2008 report as "cult-like terrorist organisation". Iraq's ambassador to the U.S., Samir Sumaidaie, said in 2011 that the MEK was "nothing more than a cult". Some academics, including Ervand Abrahamian, Stephanie Cronin, Wilfried Buchta, Eli Clifton and others have also made similar claims. Former French Foreign Ministry spokesman Romain Nadal criticized the MEK for having a "cult nature"; while Former French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said that he was "ashamed" by this statement.

A report commissioned by the US government, based on interviews within Camp Ashraf, concluded that the MEK had "many of the typical characteristics of a cult, such as authoritarian control, confiscation of assets, sexual control (including mandatory divorce and celibacy), emotional isolation, forced labour, sleep deprivation, physical abuse and limited exit options". In 2003 Elizabeth Rubin referred to the MEK as "Cult of Rajavi". Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 09:40, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran

The outcome of the previous RFC and the subsequent post-closure discussions made me start an RFC regarding inclusion the following quote:

Take the Kurds under your tanks, and save your bullets for the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

Should it be included in the article? Mhhossein 08:23, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Project Veritas

Are the following statements in the "ACORN videos (2009)" section properly supported by the reliable sources cited? Please answer which, if any, are supported. I have labeled in bold the parts whose support from reliable sources is disputed and supplied the relevant cited source for each instance.
  1. "O'Keefe's targeting of ACORN, coordinated with Andrew Breitbart, was due to conservative hatred for the organization significantly motivated by its voter registration drives." (Cited source)
  2. "Mr. Vera lost his job and was falsely accused of being engaged in human trafficking." (Cited source)
  3. "O'Keefe agreed to pay $100,000 to former California ACORN employee Juan Carlos Vera for deliberately misrepresenting Mr. Vera's actions." (Cited source)
  4. "The settlement contained the following apology..." (Cited source)

Disclosure: I work for Project Veritas. Sal at PV (talk)(13:18, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Ronald Reagan

Last fall a RfC asked this question Talk:Ronald_Reagan#Newly_released_audio. A number of editors suggested a wait and see approach. It has been 9 months and an editor recently added the following to the article
In July of 2019 a previously undisclosed tape recorded in the Nixon White House was released. In the audio recording, made in 1971 and documenting a phone conversation between then-President Nixon and then-Governor Reagan, Mr. Reagan can be heard saying, “To see those, those monkeys from those African countries—damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!“ This statement was made in reference to a United Nations delegation from Tanzania, which opposed the United States in a vote to officially recognize the People’s Republic of China. When the tape was initially released in 2000, the racist portion had been edited out. Subsequent to Reagan’s passing, the original recording was restored and released to the public.

Do editors feel this added text is DUE for inclusion? Springee (talk) 23:38, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard

Which of the following best describes the reliability of the reporting of Fox News? (as separate from their cable pundits) foxnews.com HTTPS links HTTP links has been cited over 15,000 times on Misplaced Pages.
  • Option 1: Generally reliable for factual reporting
  • Option 2: Unclear or additional considerations apply
  • Option 3: Generally unreliable for factual reporting
  • Option 4: Publishes false or fabricated information, and should be deprecated as in the 2017 RfC of the Daily Mail

Additional questions:

  • Does FOXNews.com have a separate reliability from their cable news reporting?
  • Do local affiliate stations have a separate reliability to the main Fox News operation?
  • Is Fox News reliable for US Politics?
The last RfC on Fox News was in 2010, Fox News is currently described at the RS/P as:

FOX News was determined by consensus to be generally reliable per WP:NEWSORG. The network consists of 12 news bureaus worldwide, including their New York headquarters. Several shows in the channel's news lineup include America's Newsroom, The Daily Briefing, Bill Hemmer Reports (replaced Shepard Smith), Special Report with Bret Baier, The Story with Martha MacCallum, and Chris Wallace anchoring Fox News Sunday. Some editors perceive FOX News to be a biased source whereas others do not; neither affects reliability of the source. Editors should always exercise caution when choosing sources, and treat talk show content hosted by political pundits as opinion pieces, avoid stating opinions in Wikivoice and use intext attribution as applicable. The Fox News website maintains a form for requesting corrections.

Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:20, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran

Shall we summarize the following allegations from former MEK members:
  • "an incident which Masoud Banisadr described as changing into "ant-like human beings", i.e. following orders by their instinct."
  • "Allegations of cult-like characteristics in the MEK have been made by former members who have defected from the organization, including Massoud Khodabandeh and Masoud Banisadr among others."
  • "In 2019, more defectors related their experiences. These included a ban on romantic relationships and marriages after a major military defeat. The leadership attributed that to the members being distracted by spouses and children. Members said they had to write in a notebook any sexual moments, such as 'today in the morning, I had an erection'. They had to write in the notebook feelings such as wishing to have a child after seeing children on TV. These notebooks had to be read aloud in front of the leaders and comrades."

Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 05:36, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Jacobin (magazine)

Does the Praise & Criticism section contain editorializing?

Does the Praise & Criticism section contain poor writing?

Is the sourcing in the Praise & Criticism section unreliable?

Are the topics chosen in the Praise & Criticism section worthy of inclusion? BuilderJustLikeBob (talk) 00:44, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Dave Rubin

Should the first sentence of the lead describe him as a "conservative and libertarian political commentator" (instead of just "political commentator")? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 18:29, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Anti-Hindu sentiment

Friends and fellow Wikipedians, Vanamonde93 just removed this. He asked me to get consensus for it, so please comment. Can we have those sentences in this article? Please comment if it should be restored.-Dr2Rao (talk) 16:10, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Frederick H. Fleitz

Can the lead note include a brief description of the think tank that he is CEO and President of (the bolded text): "Fleitz... has been the President and CEO of the Center for Security Policy, a far-right, anti-Muslim think tank." Snooganssnoogans (talk) 14:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Sonia Gandhi

Friends and fellow Wikipedians, RegentsPark just reverted my edit here. He asked me to get consensus for it, so please comment. Can we have those sentences in this article? I'd also like to know your thoughts on mentioning her real name, "Antonia Maino" in the lead since there are many sources online for it, including the Encyclopedia Britannica.-Dr2Rao (talk) 13:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Racial views of Donald Trump

Should this content, adding the fact that a woman who criticized Cummings was black, and including Trump's justification of his comments and another defense of his statements, be included in the article? Display name 99 (talk) 15:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Militarization of police

Should the lead briefly summarize that (i) the U.S. is a prominent example of militarization of police in democracies, (ii) U.S. police departments were non-militaristic prior to the 20th century, and (iii) that influential police reformers (such as August Vollmer) introduced reforms in the early 20th century whereby US police departments adopted military tactics, techniques, and organizational templates? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 18:19, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Black Sun (symbol)

Should the logos of those neo-Nazi groups which integrate the Black Sun symbol be used in the article? Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:57, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Obamagate

Does Obamagate meet WP:N and should editors create a standalone article? Casprings (talk) 16:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:No-go area

Should the section "Alleged and acknowledged contemporary no-go areas" include a subsection on Sweden? This page previously contained such a subsection; you can see what it looked like here. Korny O'Near (talk) 15:11, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Child sexual abuse

Should the "Asia" section contain information about caste based prostitution involving children in India? JustBeCool (talk) 21:30, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Lists of state leaders by age

Should Mohammed bin Salman be added in the youngest leader lists as well as the comment: "De facto leaders are listed in italics and are not given a numbered rank"? Wykx (talk) 12:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Macuto Bay raid

Insight from uninvolved editors would be appreacited in the Macuto Bay raid article. Should the Analysis section be kept or removed?


The section currently has the "Importance" and "POV" tags. If the section should be kept, which improvements could be done in order to remove the tags? Many thanks beforehand! Jamez42 (talk) 01:37, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Michael Flynn

Should the article include a sentence about how the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn said they did not spot any physical signs of deception in Flynn's tone and body language? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 14:42, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Joe Biden

Should the header "Allegations of inappropriate physical contact" be changed to "Allegations of inappropriate physical contact and sexual assault"?--Rusf10 (talk) 02:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:2014 Syrian presidential election

Should the lead include a sentence saying that a delegation led by officials from the authoritarian states of Iran, Russia and Venezuela concluded that the election was free and fair? (note that there's a scholarly consensus that the election was not free and fair) Snooganssnoogans (talk) 17:47, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Arthur Laffer

Should we add a paragraph to the article that mentions: (i) that Laffer is advising the trump administration on dealing with the coronavirus, and (ii) the policies that Laffer has advocated for in dealing with the coronavirus pandemic? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 14:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran

Should the following content from The Intercept 2020 report be included in the "Designation as cult" section of the article?

"According to the Intercept 2020 report, the testimonies of the MEK's former member imply that MEK is "a brutal organization" holding "thousands in a state of physical and psychological slavery" for decades."

Please say if you have suggestions for modifying the content to be included. --Mhhossein 07:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Turning Point USA


  1. "The Cult of Rajavi". Archived from the original on 23 February 2009. Retrieved 3 August 2009.
  2. Duss, Matthew (29 March 2011). "Don't Taint a Victory for Iranian Human Rights". Center for American Progress. Retrieved 9 March 2020.
  3. JANNESSARI, SOHAIL; LOUCAIDES, DARREN. "Spain's Vox Party Hates Muslims—Except the Ones Who Fund It". Foreign Policy. Retrieved 9 March 2020.
  4. <iframe title="vimeo-player" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/353811584" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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