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| == “China Tribunal and ETAC are backed by Falun Gong” == | |||
| == “Propaganda organization” and “anti-China NGO” == | |||
| The following paragraph contradicts many claims of the Tribunal and is problematic: | |||
| First sentence says “China Tribunal is a propaganda organization founded by the anti-China NGO International Coalition named Transplant Abuse in China (ETAC)”. | |||
| : Both the Tribunal and ETAC are believed to be backed by exiled Chinese religious group Falun Gong. For example, ETAC's UK national manager, Andy Moody, is reporter of Falun Gong backed media NTD. Other claims from the group include practicing Falun Gong cures cancer, and its founder, Li Hongzhi, possesses the power of God. | |||
| Why is China Tribunal a propaganda organization? Its panel members ], ] and ] (among others) suggest that this is not a propaganda organization. Calling it a propaganda organization is making an unsubstantiated political statement. As an analogy, should Misplaced Pages call ] a propaganda organization? Where is the line? | |||
| First, while the Tribunal was initiated by ETAC, it claims to be independent of ETAC (Point 17 of https://chinatribunal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ChinaTribunal_JUDGMENT_1stMarch_2020.pdf): | |||
| Also, calling ETAC “anti-China” also seems to violate neutral point of view. ETAC is an organization interested in transplant abuses in China; labeling it anti-China is making the implicit statement that the organization isn’t really interested in transplant abuses. As an analogy, Misplaced Pages doesn’t call ] an anti-China organization either, since labeling it anti-China is making a similar biased statement. | |||
| : “All members of the Tribunal, Counsel to the Tribunal, volunteer lawyers and the editor of this Judgment have worked entirely ''pro bono publico'' (for the public good) which for those unfamiliar with the term or practice means completely without financial return of any kind. None of the members of the Tribunal, Counsel to the Tribunal, the editor or the volunteer lawyers working with Counsel to the Tribunal is a Falun Gong practitioner or has any special interest in Falun Gong. Two advantages flow from this: first, all those engaged on the work are completely free of any influence from Falun Gong practitioners; second, worthwhile work otherwise unaffordable is done. Where funds have been required, for hire of rooms for evidence hearings, travel to London of non-UK Tribunal members etc, these have been provided by ETAC.” | |||
| Saying the Tribunal to be backed by Falun Gong is biased and unsubstantiated. | |||
| Second, the claim that ETAC is backed by Falun Gong also contradicts the following (https://chinatribunal.com/about-etac/): | |||
| : ETAC is an independent, non-partisan organisation that has no alignment with any political party, religious or spiritual group, government or any other national or international institution. Members are from a range of backgrounds, belief systems, religions and ethnicities. | |||
| ETAC's UK national manager being a reporter of a Falun Gong media does not support the claim that China Tribunal or ETAC is backed by Falun Gong. | |||
| Finally, even assuming ETAC is backed by Falun Gong, saying that Falun Gong’s founder Li Hongzhi possesses the power of God is completely irrelavent to China Tribunal. | |||
| For the above reasons, I have deleted the paragraph. | |||
| ] (]) 19:06, 1 July 2020 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 19:07, 1 July 2020
“China Tribunal and ETAC are backed by Falun Gong”
The following paragraph contradicts many claims of the Tribunal and is problematic:
- Both the Tribunal and ETAC are believed to be backed by exiled Chinese religious group Falun Gong. For example, ETAC's UK national manager, Andy Moody, is reporter of Falun Gong backed media NTD. Other claims from the group include practicing Falun Gong cures cancer, and its founder, Li Hongzhi, possesses the power of God.
First, while the Tribunal was initiated by ETAC, it claims to be independent of ETAC (Point 17 of https://chinatribunal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ChinaTribunal_JUDGMENT_1stMarch_2020.pdf):
- “All members of the Tribunal, Counsel to the Tribunal, volunteer lawyers and the editor of this Judgment have worked entirely pro bono publico (for the public good) which for those unfamiliar with the term or practice means completely without financial return of any kind. None of the members of the Tribunal, Counsel to the Tribunal, the editor or the volunteer lawyers working with Counsel to the Tribunal is a Falun Gong practitioner or has any special interest in Falun Gong. Two advantages flow from this: first, all those engaged on the work are completely free of any influence from Falun Gong practitioners; second, worthwhile work otherwise unaffordable is done. Where funds have been required, for hire of rooms for evidence hearings, travel to London of non-UK Tribunal members etc, these have been provided by ETAC.”
Saying the Tribunal to be backed by Falun Gong is biased and unsubstantiated.
Second, the claim that ETAC is backed by Falun Gong also contradicts the following (https://chinatribunal.com/about-etac/):
- ETAC is an independent, non-partisan organisation that has no alignment with any political party, religious or spiritual group, government or any other national or international institution. Members are from a range of backgrounds, belief systems, religions and ethnicities.
ETAC's UK national manager being a reporter of a Falun Gong media does not support the claim that China Tribunal or ETAC is backed by Falun Gong.
Finally, even assuming ETAC is backed by Falun Gong, saying that Falun Gong’s founder Li Hongzhi possesses the power of God is completely irrelavent to China Tribunal.
For the above reasons, I have deleted the paragraph.