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{{Ping|Schazjmd}} my issue is the massive amount of unsourced text, but really any 20k addition of text (almost equal to what was already here) from a one day old account on a major article warrants special attention and talk page discussion. ] (]) 20:29, 13 August 2020 (UTC) {{Ping|Schazjmd}} my issue is the massive amount of unsourced text, but really any 20k addition of text (almost equal to what was already here) from a one day old account on a major article warrants special attention and talk page discussion. ] (]) 20:29, 13 August 2020 (UTC)


– Removed the transportation section and the timeline of leaders, with some copy-editing. Thoughts? ] (]) 21:08, 13 August 2020 (UTC) {{u|Schazjmd}} and others, – Removed the transportation section and the timeline of leaders, with some copy-editing previously. Thoughts? ] (]) 21:08, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

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I placed the POV tag when creating the article because it is pasted from a US government website. Because this comes from a US govt source it may not be neutral, but I don't have the expertise to judge. (Hopefully others that know more will simply remove the tag if they think the article looks okay.) Mangostar (talk) 04:47, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The content appears fully neutral, but it's significantly incomplete. I've removed the POV tag and added a Stub tag.--Columbia clipper (talk) 04:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

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Improvement dispute

I think that the edit made by Telsho is generally an improvement, however the "timeline" of leaders is poorly executed (I don't think it meets WP:ACCESSIBILITY) and I question the relevance of the Transportation section. @Praxidicae and Horse Eye Jack:, do you object to all of the changes? Some? Or just to massive changes without checking with other editors here first? Schazjmd (talk) 19:02, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't particularly care subject wise (definitely not an area I even edit in) but it appeared to be largely unsourced and quite frankly, ugly in the middle of the page. I also object to mass changes in such articles without discussion. Praxidicae (talk) 19:04, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Also pretty heavy on the POV: Singapore and the United States share a very close and excellent diplomatic and military relationship, and the two nations are bound together by an overlap in religion, a common language and legal system. Today, large numbers of American and Singaporean expatriates live and work in each other's countries due to the relatively easy freedom of movement established between the two countries.Praxidicae (talk) 19:05, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
I was just coming back to say the two nations are bound together by an overlap in religion, a common language and legal system. in the lead is not supported by the article. Yes, some POV that should be cleaned up. Telsho, would you like to discuss the specific changes you want to make to the article and explain why you believe they're an improvement? Schazjmd (talk) 19:32, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Since Telsho has chosen to edit war rather than discuss (they just put back a bunch of the disputed edits), I'm out. Schazjmd (talk) 19:54, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

I guess so much for consensus and discussion. Praxidicae (talk) 19:58, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
I've self reverted, apologies for not seeing the ping. I'm content in removing edits that might violate NPOV. It's just hard to find the sources in relation to this topic sometimes. IMO, I don't see anything problematic in the country comparisons and transportation sections but if there's anything that needs to be changed I'd be glad to hear it. Telsho (talk) 20:03, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Per WP:V, if you can't find sources, it can't be included. Praxidicae (talk) 20:13, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Alright, I'll use the sandbox and get back on this in the future. Telsho (talk) 20:24, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@Schazjmd: my issue is the massive amount of unsourced text, but really any 20k addition of text (almost equal to what was already here) from a one day old account on a major article warrants special attention and talk page discussion. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 20:29, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Schazjmd and others, Draft – Removed the transportation section and the timeline of leaders, with some copy-editing previously. Thoughts? Telsho (talk) 21:08, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

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