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:Chicdat, that just plain sucks. For the Bbb23 barnstar disaster, I think that Bbb23 was rather rude towards you, probably after getting pissed off after admins removed his checkuser rights. But yeah, you did abuse some of your rights. However, I do think you should get back to using Twinkle or Huggle warning users about disruptive editing and vandalism. Also, you should report ''actual vandals'' to ANI or AIV. Just don't participate in XFD, that always has bad results for nominators. And don't give experienced users warnings, they get really pissed and may report you. And yeah, don't edit war. That may get ''you'' blocked. I hope you get back to administrative areas soon. Tread lightly, my friend. '''~''' <span style="color:#00CCFF;">Destroyeraa</span>] 13:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC) | :Chicdat, that just plain sucks. For the Bbb23 barnstar disaster, I think that Bbb23 was rather rude towards you, probably after getting pissed off after admins removed his checkuser rights. But yeah, you did abuse some of your rights. However, I do think you should get back to using Twinkle or Huggle warning users about disruptive editing and vandalism. Also, you should report ''actual vandals'' to ANI or AIV. Just don't participate in XFD, that always has bad results for nominators. And don't give experienced users warnings, they get really pissed and may report you. And yeah, don't edit war. That may get ''you'' blocked. I hope you get back to administrative areas soon. Tread lightly, my friend. '''~''' <span style="color:#00CCFF;">Destroyeraa</span>] 13:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC) | ||
::Thank you. I actually have been doing a little vandal reversion lately (]) that was legitimate. You've given me an idea. In a few days I'm going on a short vacation. Once I'm back, I'll ask the admins to lift part of the administrative restriction so I can enable RedWarn, which is the new Huggle. Thanks, ] ] <sup>''<font face="Times New Roman">]</font>''</sup> 09:59, 11 September 2020 (UTC) | ::Thank you. I actually have been doing a little vandal reversion lately (]) that was legitimate. You've given me an idea. In a few days I'm going on a short vacation. Once I'm back, I'll ask the admins to lift part of the administrative restriction so I can enable RedWarn, which is the new Huggle. Thanks, ] ] <sup>''<font face="Times New Roman">]</font>''</sup> 09:59, 11 September 2020 (UTC) | ||
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42nd edition of The Hurricane Herald!
Volume XLII, Issue 42, September 1, 2020 The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from July 1–August 31, 2020. This edition's editors and authors are (alphabetically) Chicdat, Destroyeraa, Hurricanehink, Jason Rees, KN2731, Typhoon2013, & Weatherman27. Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments
New articles since the last newsletter include:
New GA's include:
From July 1 to present, two featured articles were promoted: From the Main Page documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from July 1–August 31, 2020 in chronological order. There is currently one featured article candidate: WikiProject To-Do 2018 Featured Topic Hurricane Noah recently announced an initiative to get a featured topic for the year of 2018 with complete subtopics. The Eastern Pacific portion is very close to achieving a featured topic, and the Atlantic and North Indian Ocean are around a B-class average. The Western Pacific, Southern Hemisphere, and the global article for 2018 need your help! A lot of work is needed to get those three items up to par. For more information on which articles need specifically, please check out the project talk page. Getting a featured topic for an entire year would be an impressive feat for our project.
Storm of the month and other tropical activity for July Hurricane Isaias caused widespread flooding and wind damage to the East Coast of the United States, spawning a destructive tornado outbreak and killing at least 18 people. Forming from a tropical wave near the Lesser Antilles on July 30, Isaias crossed Puerto Rico, Hispaniola, and parts of the Bahamas, before making its final landfall in Ocean Isle Beach, North Carolina. The storm proceeded up the East Coast, spawning 37 tornadoes and causing more than 3 million power outages, with more than half of them in New Jersey. Overall, Isaias caused a total of $4.2 billion in damage and 18 fatalities.
Member of the month (edition) – ChessEric ChessEric first joined Misplaced Pages in April of this year, and has quickly become a prolific weather editor. In addition to his work on tornado and severe weather articles, ChessEric helped write the bulk of the Hurricane Laura article (the storm of the month), in addition to making sure the article stayed free of vandalism, with 224 edits to the article as of this newsletter. ChessEric was one of 190 editors who worked on the Laura article. We thank ChessEric for his edits, and hope we can build on more collaborations in the future between the severe and the tropical cyclone Wikiprojects. New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically.
To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions! WPTC and WP:ITN, by Destroyeraa A few weeks ago, I created an article, Hurricane Isaias, as it threatened much of the East Coast. I've created several articles already, but Isaias is one that stood out to me. First of all, it affected me, my town and my state of New Jersey, along with millions of other people. Two months ago, I learned about Misplaced Pages's In The News section of the main page, which documents recent events that are in the news. I nominated Isaias' article on August 1 here, and the discussion was closed quickly after Isaias had weakened significantly after impacting the Bahamas. As Isaias made landfall in the Carolinas, spawned 36+ tornadoes and killed 18 people, I re-nominated Isaias , got rejected again, and I learned a few lessons that I want to share to other editors: When posting
I also learned a few lessons about which tropical cyclones to post. In July, someone nominated Hurricane Hanna (2020) here, and it was also rejected because it didn't meet the notability requirements. Also, keep in mind that damage estimates and death reports often come out several days after the storm, which makes passing the nomination for a storm like Isaias, a storm that caused $4.2 billion and 18 deaths, somewhat hard. My opinions on when to nominate an article (this list mainly refers to tropical cyclone articles)
There is currently a discussion on the WPTC project page about this topic. New user perspective on WPTC, By Weatherman27 Around six months ago, I joined Misplaced Pages after seeing many articles on tropical cyclones and their seasons. Being someone who has studied (and been through) multiple storms, I realized I could help make a difference, bring more attention to tropical cyclones and that Misplaced Pages was the perfect place to do that. Soon after, I came across the WikiProject Tropical cyclones page, and after seeing what they did, I decided to sign my name and join the project. I really enjoyed how they gave to-do lists of tropical cyclone pages that needed work among other things. One of the great things about this WikiProject is the warm welcome I received when I joined and I got to know some of the more veteran editors, and they really helped me get around on Misplaced Pages, such as helpful tips and great advice to make better edits. As I have become comfortable editing and helping other users, some things came to mind that I thought other new users should know when they join the WPTC:
I am sure I missed some tips, but these are important for getting started with WPTC. This WikiProject has some amazing people and articles and I am sure new users (and veteran users as well) enjoy this as much as I do and will continue to make great edits as well as informative articles. Current assessment table Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics.
Storm of the month and other tropical activity for August Hurricane Laura tied the 1856 Last Island hurricane as the strongest hurricane ever recorded to make landfall in the U.S state of Louisiana, as measured by maximum sustained winds. It moved across the Lesser and Greater Antilles as a tropical storm, killing 35 people on the island of Hispaniola due to flooding and landslides. Laura rapidly intensified once it reached the Gulf of Mexico, becoming a powerful Category 4 hurricane on August 26 with peak winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) early the next day. On August 27, Laura made landfall near Cameron, Louisiana at peak intensity, producing wind gusts of 137 mph (220 km/h) in Lake Charles, and leaving at least $8 billion in damage. Overall, Laura killed more than 57 people, with more missing.
Project Goals & Progress The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.
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Re: Invite to join WikiProject Tropical cyclones!
Hey Chicdat, thanks for your response to my question regarding the WikiProject Tropical cyclones that I had asked on Destroyeraa's talk page. I have a few more questions before deciding to join. I am a bit confused about some of the requested tasks and goals as there doesn't seem to be a lot of detailed explanation but I did take a look at the to do list and found this one appealing:
"Provide verification for the number of deaths caused by tropical cyclones in recorded human history, organized and cross-referenced by storm intensity (eg. C5 Atl hurricanes), season (eg. 1997 Pacific hurricane season) or location (eg. List of Hawaii hurricanes)"
I would be able to contribute to this task every now and then. My question is do I need to report or make a note somewhere every time I update/verify the number of deaths for a certain hurricane? If so then how and where do I need to do this? Also when the task asks for organizing and cross-referencing does that mean I need to make sure other hurricane related pages that reference that particular hurricane are also updated with this latest information? If so then how can I find out all the pages that make a reference to that hurricane and its fatalities number? Hurricane21 (talk) 16:41, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricane21: Sorry for not replying, I was pretty busy yesterday. I'm glad that you find a task appealing. However, there is no guideline that states you must stick to a task and do it thoroughly. Most editors just grammar-check storm articles or simply update wind speeds, damage, and deaths. You should probably make a note in the edit summary every time you update deaths, like you're doing perfectly now. Yes, if new info is found, you should update the season article. You're doing very well on this task, keep up the good work! ~ Destroyeraa🌀 17:09, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- Alright then in that case I will go ahead and join the project. Thanks again for the information. Hurricane21 (talk) 18:12, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- You're welcome! 🐔 Chicdat 10:01, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- Alright then in that case I will go ahead and join the project. Thanks again for the information. Hurricane21 (talk) 18:12, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Your administrative ban
Hey Chicdat
Do you still have an administrative ban? I believe you are experienced enough to ignore the ban, since Jasper Deng cannot block you (he's not an admin). Also, it will be helpful if you can warn disruptive editors or vandals again with Twinkle, as you reverted "good faith" edits on Hurricane Laura from an edit that was clearly disruptive made by an IP, saying that Laura caused 420 deaths without providing a source. I warned the IP for you. It's just that I believe that you know the policied better than 2 months ago, and you don't need to be forced under a ban.
Quick question. What does an administrative ban even do?
Stay safe, and have a nice day. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Destroyeraa: it's not a formal ban, rather strong advice to stay out of areas that require extensive policy/technical knowledge for the time being until they become more experienced. For what it's worth I feel such experience usually comes with creating content - most admin areas exist as a result of issues in the process of content creation, so getting familiar with writing and maintaining articles would make entering admin areas much smoother. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 15:46, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- @KN2731: Thanks for telling me. Stay safe. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:59, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Destroyeraa: It isn't a ban, as in it isn't listed at WP:Editing restrictions (unlike the real ban of Can I Log In), but, like, the admins told me if, say, I re-enable XFD closer and start relisting AfDs, then I will get a ban from admin areas. I can participate in them, but not a whole lot. 🐔 Chicdat 09:59, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Well, that's not true. I can't participate in blocks/unblocks (unless I am the target of the block, which I sincerely hope never happens), I can't go to WP:AN or WP:ANI (again, unless the discussion is about me, which, again, I hope never happens), and I can't edit WP:RfA, and (my
braincerebrum hurts from all this thinking) I can't request advanced permissions (or not-so-advanced permissions, like rollback and PCR), and, most importantly of all, I can't relist or close AfD, RfD, FfD, CfD, TfD, or MfD discussions.
- Well, that's not true. I can't participate in blocks/unblocks (unless I am the target of the block, which I sincerely hope never happens), I can't go to WP:AN or WP:ANI (again, unless the discussion is about me, which, again, I hope never happens), and I can't edit WP:RfA, and (my
- @Destroyeraa: It isn't a ban, as in it isn't listed at WP:Editing restrictions (unlike the real ban of Can I Log In), but, like, the admins told me if, say, I re-enable XFD closer and start relisting AfDs, then I will get a ban from admin areas. I can participate in them, but not a whole lot. 🐔 Chicdat 09:59, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- @KN2731: Thanks for telling me. Stay safe. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:59, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Wanna know why?
My Timeline of Disruption & Wikibreaks
- APRIL 8, 2020: My not-so-much-of-an-RfA.
- APRIL 14, 28, 29, and May 1: WP:EWLOing.
- EARLY MAY, 2020: Misuse of page mover right.
- MAY 14, 2020: Misuse of rollback in an edit war.
- MAY 16, 2020: An "FAR" for 2005 Azores subtropical storm.
- MAY 22, 2020: WP:Articles for deletion/Tropical Depression Ten seeing the results almost made me cry.
- LATE MAY, 2020: A bunch of reverting and warning non-vandals cluttering up my talk page.
- JUNE 2, 2020: Nominating Cyclone Nisarga for A11.
- JUNE 5, 2020: Repeatedly submitting Draft:Tropical cyclones in 2011 for AfC.
- JUNE 7, 2020: Closing the AfD for Tropical cyclones in 2010.
- JUNE 14, 2020: Reverting not-vandalism (sorry not-vandals whom I reverted).
- JUNE 15, 2020: Indirectly requesting rollback by saying "Huggle is cool".
- JUNE 16, 2020: Merging Cyclone Sigma.
- JUNE 18, 2020: Sockpuppet investigation for an innocent IP.
- JUNE 18, 2020: Giving Yellow Evan an improper warning.
- JUNE 18 – 19, 2020: WP:RFP/C messages to withdrawn users.
- JUNE 19, 2020: The Bbb23 barnstar disaster.
- JUNE 19 – JULY 1: I disappear. During that time, I learn how to make edits without them being immediately reverted. Or so I thought.
- JULY 4, 2020: Moving an RfA.
- JULY 9, 2020: Unlinking List of Pacific hurricane seasons.
- JULY 28, 2020: Relisting.
🐔 Chicdat 11:29, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Chicdat, that just plain sucks. For the Bbb23 barnstar disaster, I think that Bbb23 was rather rude towards you, probably after getting pissed off after admins removed his checkuser rights. But yeah, you did abuse some of your rights. However, I do think you should get back to using Twinkle or Huggle warning users about disruptive editing and vandalism. Also, you should report actual vandals to ANI or AIV. Just don't participate in XFD, that always has bad results for nominators. And don't give experienced users warnings, they get really pissed and may report you. And yeah, don't edit war. That may get you blocked. I hope you get back to administrative areas soon. Tread lightly, my friend. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. I actually have been doing a little vandal reversion lately (User talk:2A02:C7F:766F:DE00:3996:60F5:9C19:CFEF) that was legitimate. You've given me an idea. In a few days I'm going on a short vacation. Once I'm back, I'll ask the admins to lift part of the administrative restriction so I can enable RedWarn, which is the new Huggle. Thanks, 🐔 Chicdat 09:59, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Timeline of the 2020 Atlantic hurricane season for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Timeline of the 2020 Atlantic hurricane season is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Timeline of the 2020 Atlantic hurricane season until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. CodingCyclone (talk) 20:46, 15 September 2020 (UTC)