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This is an archive of past discussions with User:Þjarkur. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Thank you!

Just a quick note of thanks for your NeverUseMobileVersion widget. A small thing, perhaps, but exactly what I've always wanted but didn't know until now existed and couldn't have created myself. May the world shower blessings on your head.—ShelfSkewed Talk 16:15, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Why, thank you  – Thjarkur (talk) 17:22, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:June Werner

Thank you for your comments and guidance. Hopefully my edits address your concerns.

Bernardwerner (talk) 20:59, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Waakye pronunciation

Thanks for adding IPA in Waakye. In transcriptions linked to Help:IPA/English, usually we don't transcribe secondary stress following primary stress within words, unlike some American dictionaries, as it's not contrastive. Given you used WAH, it seems what you meant to add was /ɑː/, not /æ/. /æ/ is a checked vowel, so it never ends a word (except perhaps in onomatopoeia like baa), and pronunciations in the cited video do sound like /ɑː/ compared to their /æ/, which is shorter and closer to to my ears. Also, /i/ is for unstressed and word-final or prevocalic positions only, and /eɪ/ is represented by ay, not ey, in our H:RESPELL key. I don't hear variants other than /-eɪ/ at least in the first few minutes of the video, but I might be missing something. But these are all minor quibbles and I appreciate your contributions. Feel free to ask me any questions (as I might ask you something about Icelandic!). Nardog (talk) 15:29, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

​Ah, thank you. That Ghanaian accent sounded identical to a short /æ/ to me. They seemed to go back and forth with the endings, with wɑːtʃɑː at 2:45 and wɑːtʃi at 0:32 for example, but that's probably not important. I rarely transcribe English here, will ask someone check my work next time. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:07, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Copying within Misplaced Pages

Thanks for identifying the source of the material in your edit.

This type of edit does get picked up by Copy Patrol and a good edit summary helps to make sure we don't accidentally revert it. However, for future use, would you note the best practices wording as outlined at Misplaced Pages:Copying_within_Wikipedia? In particular, adding the phrase "see that page's history for attribution" helps ensure that proper attribution is preserved.S Philbrick(Talk) 13:00, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Will do – Thjarkur (talk) 13:07, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Culture of Paraguay

Hi! English is not my native language, so I can have some problems with grammars and more. I think is very short the article, as my intention is tranlating this spanish version Cultura de Paraguay which is longer.

– Willians01100 (talk) 17:52, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

​I have split the section from the main article to Culture of Paraguay, you can now edit that page. You can see your old version by clicking here. I can probably help with the translation, just let me know. If you are able to find some more sources in addition to the ones used by the Spanish Misplaced Pages, that would of course be good. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:11, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

The Reason for WPWP

The editing is based on enriching Misplaced Pages Pages Without Pictures — Preceding unsigned comment added by Major Lyte (talk • contribs) 10:20, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

​ I know what it means, but I'm asking you to use descriptive edit summaries. Removing italics is also not adding pictures. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Based on this, it looks like someone is cheating! Picture was graciously added by one @Godstime Elijah:, not @Major Lyte:. Leo Breman (talk) 15:39, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Transliteration English

Could the name be transliterated/anglicized as "Thyarkur"? Bernspeed (talk) 23:41, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

​Sure, even "Thyaskus" if one wants to push for similarity for English-speaking ears. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:35, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Berbers

In your recent edit, you added {{lang|tmh-Latn|Amajegh}} which is an unrecognized language. You can probably fix this much faster than I can. Thanks. MB 03:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Contest this speedy deletion

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (All information are true and credible, and not for any personal gain or benefit for any reason, I believe your doubt Maybe due to my mishandling and lack of wiki complete Knowledge or for which I apologize, and kindly request you not to delete the page as it is my first creation which won't be repeated again, pls consider and allow me to correct my errors. I shall rewrite following the guidelines and correct fundamentally) --Airdrago (talk) 20:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Airdrago (talk) 20:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Reply regarding the speedy deletion nomination of R N Dash

hello "This page appears to be a direct copy from https://cineyatra.in/extra-info. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites" you people given this reason but both article written by me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aycharumann (talk • contribs) 05:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

In that case, you can see Misplaced Pages:Donating copyrighted materials. You can for example add "This article is licensed under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License" on your website. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:36, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

JavaScript (NeverUseMobileVersion)

Hi, Is your above JavaScript perfectly secure and doesn't cause your account to be compromised? I don't know whether it's secure or not. I want to use it but thinking about safety first. Thank you. Ping me kindly. Empire AS 16:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC) Empire AS 06:14, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​It's never secure to load userscripts from other users because they could change the script later to do any kind of edit on your behalf. I would recommend making a copy of the script in your own userspace, that way you can be sure that it won't be changed. Copy this file over to User:Empire AS/NeverUseMobileVersion.js and then add the text mw.loader.load( "https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Empire_AS/NeverUseMobileVersion.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript" ); to your common.js file. Then you're only loading a script you control yourself. As you can see, the script is very short, the only thing it does is change the URL. – Thjarkur (talk) 08:47, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

@Þjarkur:, Thank you. I was really worried about its security. The idea you suggested, I was going to try it before. But I didn't do that, as I was doing it without your permission and in a way, it was stealing. Thank you. Empire AS 08:54, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​Everything on Misplaced Pages (apart from images) is licensed under the Creative Commons license, so you're free to copy and modify anything. Usually you write an attribution notice in the edit summary when copying: "Copying text from X, see that article for attribution history", but this tiny script is marked as CC0 so you don't even have to do that. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:01, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

I've created the pages. But the script doesn't removes m from URL. Instead, it shows yellow-coloured background on some words. It loads URL in this way . Recently, I used this script and then it was finely working and loading desktop site automatically. But now, it doesn't load desktop site. Even if you switch-on the desktop mode. Can you fix it? Have you any script that automatically loads desktop site on mobile? Thank you. Empire AS 11:10, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​Your script is correctly set up, but your browser hasn't refreshed its cache yet. Try hitting reload. (The yellow background is something Google adds to its searches, that's not coming from Misplaced Pages) – Thjarkur (talk) 11:19, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

I've cleared cache, but why still word m remains? But you see that I haven't added "CC0" in js. Is it compulsory? Empire AS 11:21, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​Turns out that you need to place the import line at the top of your common.js, then it works. A CC0 notice is not compulsory. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:29, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, It started working, but I don't know what's difference between top and bottom placing. I thank you for creating such a js that helps mobile users. Empire AS 11:49, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​I mean that mw.loader.load( "https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Empire_AS/NeverUseMobileVersion.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript" ); needs to come first in common.js, like here. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:35, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I understand that, but I didn't understand why it works on the top and not works at bottom. Thank you. Empire AS 13:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​The reason is that the mobile view doesn't support the "importScript" function, and it just gives up on executing the script after it has encountered a function it doesn't recognize. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:44, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Bruce Kluger page

Hi, Thjarkur -- Thanks for your message. I'm assuming you're taking about the sources listed in References, yes? Can you be a little more specific about which citations need to be more reliable and independent? --Bruce — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Kluger (talk • contribs) 17:30, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

More...

Hi again, Þjarkur.

I've read your note a few times and I have a clearer understanding of what you're saying. As a journalist for the past 30 years, I am ultra-careful to make sure that my reporting is objective and verifiable. To that end, I worked very hard to give you citations that were airtight. I'm guessing that you may have a problem with citing my own website as a reference, but the only reason I did that was because the links WITHIN those pages contain links to other third-party sources, and it seemed more economic to do so. If that is the reason my article was taken down, I can try to revise those links and replace them with other third-party citations.

As to writing my own page, I agree in theory with Misplaced Pages's caution about that; but, again, having been a reporter for so long, I have the experience to write about myself objectively and without bias, just as I would write about anybody. Again, if you could point to areas in which you believe I have failed to be objective, please let me know which ones, and I'll be happy to fix them.

Many thanks. --Bruce — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Kluger (talk • contribs) 17:49, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Once more...

Hi, Thjarkur. I have done a thorough overhaul of my sourcing, and have submitted the draft for your review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Kluger (talk • contribs) 21:52, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Sunday

Hi Þjarkur. Could you please let me know when you'll get back to me regarding my queries yesterday? --Bruce Kluger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Kluger (talk • contribs) 19:22, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

​I have added a comment to your draft. Experience in reporting doesn't translate very well to Misplaced Pages's esoteric standards, which are to try to summarize only what secondary sources have said. I count two sources that contain some significant coverage of you and the rest seemingly being articles by you or listings (thus not counting towards WP:GNG). Getting a review takes up to 8 weeks, and it does not obviously demonstrate WP:GNG to me. Would highly recommend just improving some already existing articles here instead of trying to get your autobiography through, if you do become notable someone who is not you will eventually write about you here. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:39, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Responding to your comments on 8/2

Hello, Thjarkur --

I went through your 8/2 comments, both the one you wrote to me, and the one you wrote to some other person. I really appreciate the effort you made on to give my article a fair read. Here are my responses:

1) It is my understanding that the References section -- as in all of journalism -- is simply to confirm and substantiate, through a reliable source or sources, information that has been reported. Indeed, when I've written articles over the years for various outlets, my fact-check file takes twice as long to write as the piece itself. For better or worse, I am fastidious about that. Therefore, when I give you a link as a source, it is often just to confirm some fact or facts that I've written in the copy. This is why, in my original draft that you rejected, I felt comfortable submitting material that I'd written about myself because it had already been verified by another publication. To wit: When I wrote in USA Today about my experiences as an editor of Playboy, I trusted that the reader would know that that reporting had already been vigorously fact-checked by the copy department at USA Today, and the piece would never have appeared had my reporting about my Playboy experiences been wrong. However, in my second draft, I replaced most links to my own writing with other sources.

2) You write "this NPR piece contains some coverage which is about a project but not him directly." Correct. I included that link as a verification of a single fact that is reported in the sentence to which the footnote is appended. Does an article have to be completely about me as a central topic in order for it to verify or substantiate the fact that I am reporting?

3) You write: "Several sections are uncited." If you could please tell me which ones, I will be happy to provide citations, rather than have them removed. I did not include any material that I deemed extraneous or trivial.

4) You write that my substantiation to my reporting about my work for the New York Times is "just a link to a piece written by him." Correct. That's because you rejected my citation in my first draft, which pointed the reader to a listing of the nine articles I've written for the Times (here). I suppose I could find all nine pieces on the NYT website, but I think that a long series of nine footnotes would look unsightly, don’t you?

5) I'm sorry to read that you don't believe I am "notable" enough to merit a Misplaced Pages article. I disagree, of course. In fact, Misplaced Pages itself mentions me in several of its articles, and it has devoted full articles to projects that I was either a part of or actually helped to create. If you ultimately decide that my article is not worthy of publishing, I'd like to have my name removed from those articles, as it is embarrassing to me that you have deemed the work I have created worthy of including, but not me as a creator.

6) Speaking of which: in your article about John-Michael Tebelak, you mention that after creating his internationally renowned musical "Godspell," he went on to direct a musical called "Ka-Boom." That citation has two glaring errors: 1) your link on that reporting takes the reader to Ka-Boom, which is "Italian children's programming bloc" that John-Michael had nothing to do with, and 2) you've omitted the exclamation point in the title. I know this because I wrote the "Ka-Boom!" that John-Michael directed, and I helped design the logo. See here.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

--Bruce Kluger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Kluger (talk • contribs) 19:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

The early life section was the unsourced section I was referring to. The only thing is that WP:GNG is not clearly demonstrated, in my view, but another reviewer will come along and review it in a few days/weeks. Again, writing an autobiography here is strongy discouraged because none of us are able to be neutral about ourselves, and because editors with a conflict of interest have a tendency to take up a disproportional amount of time of other editors. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Þjarkur ...

...it's honestly a pleasure to communicate with someone who is so candid and thorough. That's a rare commodity, these days. Just so you know, I gave a lot of thought to the WP:GNG factor before I sat down to write -- the last thing I wanted to do was take up space with a self-inflated notion of who I am and what I've achieved. But I eventually landed on the idea that (in all objectivity) I've been privileged to be a part of some pretty high-visibility projects over the past 40 years, and I am well known in certain select circles, and have even touched some lives with my work. So that was my motivation. In any case, we'll see what the other reviewer says. Thank you again, and stay safe. Bruce Kluger (talk) 15:06, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Lolli Sourcing

Hi Þjarkur,

I was wondering what you meant by getting reliable sources. I used major publications for information like CNBC, Tech Crunch, Cheddar, Yahoo Finance, and WSJ. I reviewed sources and got information from major publications that had covered Lolli to get notability and verifiability. What would qualify the sources I used as un-reliable?

Best, WaltJsmith (talk) 14:34, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

​Someone else had marked some of the sources as being unreliable, but I had not looked at them myself. Appears some were tagged for being primary sources (press releases) and some for possibly being unreliable cryptocurrency news sites (they do tend to be unreliable). Forbes content marked with "Contributor" is self-published content and is usually bought. But it does seem that several (most?) of the sources tagged as unreliable in the draft are actually usable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:40, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Edward Peck (professor) should be Edward Peck (Professor) - can you change this, not sure how. Thanks

Hi can you change this, not sure how. ThanksDanannS (talk) 17:54, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello DanannS, Misplaced Pages doesn't capitalize words in titles (except for proper nouns). – Thjarkur (talk) 17:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Help

Hello dear Þjarkur Can you please check the page (Bahador Zamani) and remove the proposed deletion if possible. I edited the page again--Rashidhosseini3 (talk) 12:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Lo4d.com

Lo4d.com article is not paid or advertise remove the deletion tag if possible — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamilanawiki (talk • contribs) 09:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Chhari Village Clarification

Chhari is a small village which is located in Mant Tehsil of Mathura District Uttar Prasdesh India. Chhari village is a ancient village in the time of lord krishna childhood. this village is very popular among the peoples. tourist visited here for darshans of load krinsha temples.

Thank you — Preceding FMEINDIA comment added by FMEINDIA (talk • contribs) 19:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello my name is Intōbes̄a

Hello my name is Intōbes̄a I am Mon people I used to work for NMB48 Shinano Sorahana 信濃宙花 I want to write a post about Japanese singer, Burmese singer and Mon singer But I have never written a Misplaced Pages all that I have done is not in violation of copyright I have come to arrange for the company permission right now, I can read in 8 languages I've studied in Burma, Thailand, Japan, and South Korea.

Used to study in Burma Mon State, Ye district and Thailand Samut Sakhon Province Phra Pradaeng College and South Korea schools as I wrote a post on wikipedia I don't want anything, I don't want anything, I just want to help Misplaced Pages but I don't understand admin wiki more What I have written all the books is not wrong, why do you want to delete them now I am more skeptical of admin Wiki, because I want to delete it all the time I don't understand I haven't broken copyright laws as I write all posts, I have company authorization when I was a kid I never saw my mother, NMB48 saved my life and sent it to me to school now I don't forget the company I tried to help ] now I try to write a post about all the singers but I'm sorry there is part In the wikipedia about Mon Singer, no one wrote a post for me, I didn't dare to write it because I didn't know the history of Mon Singer now I want to write a post about all the singers I have come from, and I want to write them all I write for all future singers I love all singers because he sang I heard that I was happy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 咽頭べさ (talk • contribs) 14:25, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

​Hello Intōbes̄a. Yes, writing a new Misplaced Pages article is quite hard, really the only way to learn how is to improve some already-existing articles. All statements made need good sources. Your English is not quite good enough yet to contribute to the English Misplaced Pages, maybe you'd like to contribute to Misplaced Pages in your native language? – Thjarkur (talk) 20:32, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Review question

Hello, I got a notice that my new redirect article Dual-sync monitor was reviewed by you. I'm a fairly new editor and I see how that one might be seen as unnecessary, but I can't figure out where the results of that review actually are, and I've been searching the AfC pages and so on for a while. Could you let me know where I can see this? Thank you!Gravislizard (talk) 15:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes hello Gravislizard, see here: Misplaced Pages:New pages patrol. The "review" is nothing more than a checkbox that marks new creations as not being spam, vandalism or otherwise worthy of deletion, also makes pages show up in Google results (Google does however not really index redirects). So I was just marking your redirect as being a good one. I can't say I understand why the system notifies people when their creations are reviewed, since it isn't something that needs the editor's attention. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:49, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining! I agree that it's a strange and startling feature that Misplaced Pages should make a little clearer. Have a great day!Gravislizard (talk) 19:53, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Andreas S. Londos

Thank you for the help. There are two Andreas Londos in Greek history. That's why the article Andreas Londos, should has title Andreas S. Londos. Wikimedia commons depicts both Londos, should have separate, but i dont know how to do this. Can you make at Wikimedia commons new page with title Andreas S. Londos so i can transfer there the right images? (Dor-astra (talk) 17:12, 19 August 2020 (UTC))

​Yes, I've fixed the problem at Commons now. Do you think you'd be interested in starting an article on the other Londos? I would if I could read Greek sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:29, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, i am working about greek miinistries right now. you can try with Translation. and i can help you if you have questions (Dor-astra (talk) 17:39, 19 August 2020 (UTC))

Ejefoh

This is not Anthony Ejefoh, I want to create one for him . He is known here in nigeria .... and i alrrady checked the article . There was no error .Can you kindly look into this. It my first post so i understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ijobacypher (talk • contribs) 11:58, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

​The subject is not notable enough for a Misplaced Pages article. You should not ask your friends to remove speedy deletion templates for you. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:07, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you reviewed

Hello, Þjarkur

Thank you for creating Joaquim Cardozo.

User:John B123, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

The article has no references

To reply, leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|John B123}}. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~ .

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

John B123 (talk) 20:01, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm John B123. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Joaquim Cardozo, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

John B123 (talk) 20:02, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

​Well I am working on it, thought I should mark it as patrolled so that I wouldn't edit conflict with other patrollers. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:05, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

There is a template {{Under review}} specifically for that purpose. I note you marked it as reviewed again before adding any content to showed why the subject is notable, perhaps {{in creation}} might have been more applicable. --John B123 (talk) 20:31, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

​Ah, good point. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:38, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for the clarification! SamMontana (talk) 02:17, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

HiPhi

Incorporate HiPhi1 into HiPhi content, HiPhi is the brand, HiPhi1 is the brand product — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fanxingtuan (talk • contribs) 14:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Regarding undisclosed financial stake

Hi, Dear

   Thanks for giving message on my talk page. Actually am new on wiki, so before your message i don't know about paid template. Can you provide us some paid profile links for better understanding about this topic. After learning about this am definitely mention this template. 

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ziofy (talk • contribs) 14:21, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Natasha Booth

I saw that you removed my new contribution to Misplaced Pages about a journalist called Natasha Booth. I am in NO way paid to write articles - which I find offensive. I happened to find Vents Magazine on Google, but this person is a legit journalist in Europe on verified journalism websites. I will create a new article with independent sources from reputable news outlets that this person has worked for. It is a shame that you made these assumptions about me and have just removed the article without discussing this first with me to edit it. I am only trying to add new articles to Misplaced Pages and I write solely based on objectivity.--Terrysouse (talk) 20:15, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 17

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Isaiah Toothtaker

The source used in the article is the Tuscon Weekly, an established newspaper, is this not a reputable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.15.237.151 (talk) 00:11, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Opinion pieces by third parties aren't. For serious accusations especially we need reliable secondary sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 00:17, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

The third party your referencing is their own journalist, and the piece was freely published by the newspaper on their website. Can you please explain how this doesn't qualify as a reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamobil (talk • contribs) 15:42, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

The remaining source is one we can use, and we currently summarize all the detail it has. Letters from readers are WP:BLPSPS. If other sources have not given attention to this case then that is highly suggestive of it not being worthy of being mentioned in an encyclopedia. We take a very careful approach when it comes to biographies and don't report accusations unless widely reported on. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:50, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

I hv sent you a reply on saini talk page

Kindly reply Er. Hummy (talk) 02:45, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Keerthy Suresh

Hi! Why you redirect Keerthy Suresh, roles and nominations. Eswnav (talk) 10:32, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello Eswnav, as I mentioned in the edit summary, the list is so short that it's not necessary to split the article yet. See WP:WHENSPLIT, it's usually good to keep content merged unless the article becomes too large. It also seemed to be more helpful to readers to show the short lists on the main page. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:34, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Ok, In that article, Keerthy Suresh filmography, Television, awards this all content have. So this article is big. Please I again do please don't redirect. Eswnav (talk) 10:49, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

​The content there is not that long, I don't think it is necessary to split it. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:56, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

I thought the content is big. Please can I create again. Eswnav (talk) 11:10, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

​You can, but you could also mention it at Talk:Keerthy Suresh to see what others think. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:03, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank You

Hey, Þjarkur Thank You for Helping, Actually, I am new here so I think it will take me some time to understand policies of Wiki. I appreciate that you helped me. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhawnagusain174 (talk • contribs) 13:44, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

If They were wrong I didn't get the green marks. You got marks in -ve But all right as I said before — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhawnagusain174 (talk • contribs) 13:50, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

"Green marks"? – Thjarkur (talk) 13:51, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikimedia

Hi! Can you upload the images for actresses? Eswnav (talk) 14:21, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

​There are very few images that are published under a license that we can use. If you have personally taken an image of an actress then you can go to Commons and upload it there, but if you found it online it's most likely not usable. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:37, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

I not having any images, Can you having Vani Bhojan image. Eswnav (talk) 18:42, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

​Well I have not personally taken any pictures of notable people. What one can sometimes do is check Flickr and search for Creative Commons licensed pictures, but there aren't any of Vani Bhojan – Thjarkur (talk) 19:39, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

NotForgotten Digital Preservation Library page

Dear Þjarkur

Thank you for editing the NotForgotten Digital Preservation Library page. I have been working with John B123 over the last several days who put in the maintenance blocks on the page to correct the writing and make sure it meets standards. As he has now assisted me in getting it right, an independent editor now needs to remove the maintenance comment about advertising (should it be acceptable). As you see below John B123 suggested there isnt a defined process for this, but that I might want to reach out to you as you made some earlier corrections to the page....so here I am requesting you to look at the new edits and remove the maintenance comments if you approve.

Kindest and thanks for what you do!

This is the discussion between John B123 and myself FYI

Dear John

Thanks for reviewing my new page about the NotForgotten Digital Preservation Library - I appreciate your review and the changes.

On the topic of advertising... I have tried (but I’m probably blinded by my own writing) to find and then strip out anything that appears to be viewed as advertising - I have made some efforts this morning to improve it. I have reviewed the guidelines, but still I may be blind. Is there any chance you can identify any areas I need to further improve in this regard? The library aims to have an educational page.

Kindest regards, and thanks for your efforts Liebena (talk) 19:11, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Liebena. I've made a few minor changes such as removing the numerous inline external links to the organisation's website. (If this is for SEO reasons, then whoever gave you that advice is about 10 years behind the times). The use of words such as "mission" normally occur in press releases not encyclopedic articles, the same applies to the section "The role of the Not Forgotten Library". The adding of INDEX twice to the article further makes me think this article was created for promotion, and again, whoever thought this would help with Google is behind the times. --John B123 (talk) 20:36, 1 September 2020 (UTC) John thanks very much! The library is grateful. Yes - bad advice was taken on board ... Again .. your work is appreciated! Liebena (talk) 21:42, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Dear John we have implemented your suggestions now - no reference to mission or role and tidied some of the words up to steer clear of any advertising tone. Please let us know if there is more we need to wrestle with. kindest Liebena (talk) 22:44, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Dear John - would you be ok for me to request a review from an editor on my talk page to remove the advertising note on the maintenance template? kindest Liebena (talk)

Hi Liebena. I can't see the harm in that, but I'm not sure that many people would see it? --John B123 (talk) 17:21, 2 September 2020 (UTC) Dear John - Forgive me I am clueless - how do I get the notification to be reviewed and removed if its deemed I have made acceptable changes? Sorry for being dumb here.I read the guidance and it says that only non vested parties should edit it away.

kindest Liebena (talk)

Hi Liebena. I'm not sure there is a defined process as such. You could try asking Þjarkur, who made a few edits on the article previously, to have a look. (I would rather somebody else reviewed it as I have made a few changes in order to improve the article) Regards --John B123 (talk) 21:04, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Liebena (talk) 20:22, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello Liebena (moved your signature to below the block), the article has improved quite a lot but it still reads like a bit like it was written by the company rather than being a hyper-neutral Misplaced Pages article that just summarizes secondary sources. In particular, it has certain details one usually only sees on company websites such as ISO certifications, policy adherance, "artificial intelligence" and such. Since artificial intelligence tends to be marketing speech, one can usually just say "automated video transcription" instead, which is much clearer in any case. I would even suggest trimming it in half, focusing mainly on what secondary sources have said. But another thing I'd highly recommend would be to just contribute to some other Misplaced Pages articles for a few weeks, that's really the best way to get a feel for Misplaced Pages's article structure and hyper-neutral tone. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Exam proctoring v. Exam invigilator

Thank you for your comment re: exam proctoring v. exam invigilator. They are two different topics. The former is about the practice and process of exam proctoring, which is related to academic misconduct in terms of policy, procedure, and academic misconduct case management. In turn, this is related to higher education governance, management and quality assurance. The latter is about a career choice. It would be inaccurate to conflate them, which is why I have noted at the top of the e-proctoring page that those interested in the career should see the other page.

Edit requests

Just following up on my initial reply at Talk:Solar-powered refrigerator and then at Talk:Solar cooker, I would want my edits at solar cell phone charger, solar charger and water purification reinstated, especially as there were no particular namedrops involved with those edits. Excluding them on the basis of the technologies "not being in widespread use" to me sounds like using WP:DUE as with presenting different viewpoints of a subjective topic, when what the edits do is providing objective, verifiable information on existing technologies on the market. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 20:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Envato page feedback

Hi there, just saw your comment on the Envato company page draft. I understand the original Envato wiki page was deleted because it was poorly written, with spammy content and poor referencing. My version was an attempt to improve on these points with cleaner and more accurate writing and with more comprehensive referencing, especially given the last page used too many on-site references to envato dot com and the like. Does that help?Daveoftheinternet (talk) 06:08, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

​The old deletion discussion was mainly about the company not having received much independent coverage, with available sources being PR pieces and press releases. Most of the available coverage still appears to be non-independent, but I haven't looked at it in depth. – Thjarkur (talk) 08:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

That's interesting. By my measure, more than 75% of references that I used to write the draft are from independent press and industry publications related to Envato's work. I did a lot of research into their competitors beforehand, and I think that actually compares quite favourably to Creative Market (37%) and Pond5 (53%) though Canva remains a bit of a gold standard it appears, with almost 90% of their sources coming from mainstream and industry press. I'd be interested in your further thoughts once you dive in. Daveoftheinternet (talk) 10:13, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

​The publications themselves are independent, but the coverage in those sources is not always independent (sometimes it's a re-hash press releases, occasionally it's sponsored coverage). I would however personally have guessed that Envato would be notable enough for an article, just because I recall how popular ThemeForest was a few years back. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:25, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Ah I see. I'll have another look and see if there are sponsored posts there, though I did try and prioritise publications with a stronger news background. And yes, I remember seeing some coverage about ThemeForest being in the top Alexa rankings at one point, that was when I first heard of them. Daveoftheinternet (talk) 10:42, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Change my username

Hi, I have requested to change my username, but it has not been done yet. Where can I follow up?--IMani (Talk) :) 16:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

​I'm not seeing where you requested that, but you can go to Misplaced Pages:Changing username/Simple and add a request there. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I gave it once here,Special:GlobalRenameRequest/status is it okay to give it there too? --IMani (Talk) :) 17:06, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

​Oh I see. No, that one is sufficient. You will receive an email when someone gets to your request. I don't actually know what their workload is like, but I'd guess it will probably take a few days for your rename to take place. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:10, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Okey Tanks.--IMani (Talk) :) 17:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

sabotaging ad

Hi, a user in the article was sabotaging ad. Now the user is bothering me. He has been warned many times before.Please check for yourself.--IMani 01:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Change my username

Hi, I have requested to change my username, but it has not been done yet. Where can I follow up?--IMani (Talk) :) 16:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

​I'm not seeing where you requested that, but you can go to Misplaced Pages:Changing username/Simple and add a request there. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I gave it once here,Special:GlobalRenameRequest/status is it okay to give it there too? --IMani (Talk) :) 17:06, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

​Oh I see. No, that one is sufficient. You will receive an email when someone gets to your request. I don't actually know what their workload is like, but I'd guess it will probably take a few days for your rename to take place. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:10, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Okey Tanks.--IMani (Talk) :) 17:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

sabotaging ad

Hi, a user in the article was sabotaging ad. Now the user is bothering me. He has been warned many times before.Please check for yourself.--IMani 01:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)