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Proposed move of Tam o' shanter (cap) to Tam o' shanter

Hello Zxcvbnm. I declined this at WP:RMTR because there is an existing DAB page at Tam O'Shanter. If you still think the move is a good idea you can file it as a regular move, but please explain how you would like all the DABs to work out. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: "Tam o' shanter" is the only thing there that is lowercase. Hopefully now you will see my rationale for moving the page, due to WP:DIFFCAPS._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:12, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

At present Tam o' shanter is a redirect to Tam o' Shanter. I would be reluctant to rest a distinction on such a thin reed as WP:DIFFCAPS when something is this confusing. Feel free to open a {{Requested move}} if you disagree. EdJohnston (talk) 19:28, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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Friendly suggestion about linking to evidence when nominating RMs

Hey, I've noticed in a lot of RMs that you open you will mention pageviews as part of your reasoning for the move. It would be helpful if you could link to the pageview comparison in the nom, just to save each other editor having to go to the pageview tool and enter the relevant article names. (It would also help avoid miscommunications where different editors get different results because they used different time ranges, daily vs. monthly views, or included a different set of articles in their analysis.) Same goes for ngrams etc. Cheers. Colin M (talk) 18:25, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Travesti

When you turned Travesti into a DAB oage, you may have overlooked WP:FIXDABLINKS. The change broke 639 links, which will have to be fixed by hand by someone or other. Narky Blert (talk) 02:29, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. I think it's actually far less than that though, as the vast majority of those were due to a template being on those pages that had the incorect link._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 03:15, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Merging Kull Warrior

I am merging some Stargate articles, and after your Kull Warrior concerns at AfD, I want to let you know that I've merged the article to List of Stargate SG-1 characters#Other alien recurring characters. I think it works fine there. – sgeureka 15:24, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Agreed, that is a good WP:ATD._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 16:50, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

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Others

Worth looking at for RM:

• A good day to die (phrase)
• Crowned heads of Europe (phrase)
• Get a life (idiom)
• Holy cow (expression)
• Skeleton in the closet (idiom)
• The quick and the dead (idiom)

Hyperbolick (talk) 20:56, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Geometry Wars

I saw that you have done some work on Geometry Wars, and now there is a page for the series itself. Thanks for your work. I have done some more work on it, as you can see in the version histories. Now, Geometry wars redirects to this series page, instead of just Retro Evolved. Were the changes I made consistent with what you had in mind? BirdValiant (talk) 04:49, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

@BirdValiant: Yes, please feel free to expand as you see fit. I just added the bare minimum so it can definitely be expanded with some more context about the series._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:00, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

@Zxcvbnm: I probably won't, but I'm just glad to see that the pages have enjoyed some caretaking. I actually created the article back in 2005, and it's great to see how it has taken shape over this time. BirdValiant (talk) 05:12, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

This time

I disagree (Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Hard fantasy (2nd nomination)). Seems like a notable topic, just badly written article with poor sources. But sources are out there, per links in my vote. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:25, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Squibb Park Bridge

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Good luck

All Ghillied Up

Just to let you know, I have recreated and expanded the All Ghillied Up. Regards  Spy-cicle💥  17:18, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

@Spy-cicle: Thank you. You might also be interested in checking the history of The Silent Cartographer. It has no less than 5 reception comments from reliable gaming press sources, there may be more to be found._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 03:33, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I will have a look but I am not that familiar with Halo as I have never really played it.  Spy-cicle💥  13:56, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Woven(video Game) not notable

Dear Zxcvbnm, you wrote at Draft:Woven_(video_game) that alle game sites quoted are minor game sites and therefore the sources are unreliable. I understand they are not the biggest of gamereview sites (although swithUp and PSU are pretty big). But most of the websites that were used in writing the articles are notable enough by the 4 pages Metacritic has for the game, which atleast validates them up to a certain degree. User talk:Cebalan —Preceding undated comment added 08:41, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Cebalan: A site being on Metacritic doesn't actually prove anything, since it's just an automated review aggregator. It can definitely be an indicator of whether something is notable, but that's only if the individual reviews are from reliable sites. There are plenty of non notable games with a Metacritic score. You can look at WP:VG/S for a list of reliable/unreliable sources. If all the sources for an article are not listed there as reliable it's a good sign that it's not actually notable._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 15:02, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Zxcvbnm: Thank you for your quick response. I understand Metacritic is a review aggregator, but they don't include just any review, as they have a strict selection policy of their own. I've familiarized myself with WP:VG/S and crossrefenced it with a list of 49 written reviews and 157 gamepress articles. To my surprise, besides a mention by Adventure Gamers, there seems very little overlap. I guess Youtuber/streamer coverage will not count towards notability just yet? There are over 200 vids from streamers and youtubers about this game, 9 of with 200.000+ viewers. I'm not saying its the most notable game of the century, clearly it is not (and the article doesn't pretend it is, or could be rewritten if you think it does) but the game has had considerable coverage. Also, and the reason why I first thought it might be notable nough, it has been written about three times in Dutch Game Industry Magazine control-online, a leading website where it concerns Dutch game industry. Also, it launched not just on Steam (which attracts a lot of unnotable titles) but also PS4, Xbox One and Switch, each with their own quality control, which is quite a (notable) feat for a small indie team, the two major reason I thought the article might be worth writing. Are there other ways to 'prove' it was notable besides coverage? The game launched again Pokemon Sword/shield and Star wars, so most notable channels didn't cover the game. Which is a shame, if you look at the other coverage it has. In any case, I thank you for your time. Any pointers towards the rest of the article, for if ever I try my hand at writing again? _{User:Cebalan (TALK)} 17:17, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Cebalan:There are no ways to prove notability besides coverage in reliable sources. Streamers and player count numbers do not count towards notability. So you can think the game can be as underrated and deserving of coverage as you want but if it doesn't have reliable sources, that is that.

I checked the magazine, but those seem to be mostly about the game's Kickstarter and the studio itself. They'd be usable in the Development section if the game was notable, but don't offer much opinions about the actual game._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Zxcvbnm: This isn't about whether i think the game is underrated or deserving of more coverage. A Misplaced Pages page is never about providing coverage. But I do think it would have serious gaps in its knowledge base if it did not include indie games with considerable coverage that ran a successful production and multi-platform launch like Pine, Deliver us the moon, Woven next to other smaller but successful indieprojects such as Herald. Games with bigger budgets get written about sooner by the 'notable sources', and I abhor the idea that it takes a big budget to be on wikipedia. Those 157 articles aren't on the notable list, but 140+ aren't on the unreliable list either. Anyway, that's criticism on how the current system works, and even if we would agree, that still wouldn't change the system that you are following correctly. The article can be deleted (unless it needs second opinion from somewhere) And I'll keep the article as a draft in my sandbox, for if and when other sources become available that proof enhanced notability, and I'll refrain from writing the other ones. Sorry for taking up your time. With kind regards,_{User:Cebalan (TALK)} 11:38, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

@Cebalan: It certainly doesn't take a big budget to get on Misplaced Pages. I've created dozens of articles about small indie titles with extremely low budgets. Behold the Kickmen is one example. However, that game got reviews on Rock, Paper Shotgun, Eurogamer, PC Gamer, Engadget and Polygon. Misplaced Pages isn't a marketing tool so it's up to the developer to market their game in such a way that it gets seen, which that developer clearly did._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:20, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

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About your comment on Draft:List of Swedish video game developers

Dear Zxcvbnm,

I read your comment on my Draft:List of Swedish video game developers, Comment: Redundant content fork. Please add this to List of video game developers, which allows for sorting by country. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 15:07, 11 January 2020 (UTC) The draft has 39 companies in the list. I was thinking about adding a bit of general knowledge about Swedish video game industry if that matters, gathering secondary sources and adding an info box. I'm not sure if that's ok.

I found a similar article called 'List of video game companies of Sweden' https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_video_game_companies_of_Sweden This article has 38 companies in the list. 8 active companies are not in my draft.

Can I add the draft there or must I edit the list on 'List of video game developers'? https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_video_game_developers

I hope you can answer my questions.

All the best

Tony Westling — Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyWestling-Dataspelsbranschen (talk • contribs) 16:57, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

@TonyWestling-Dataspelsbranschen: I would try to add the content into the general list of game developers, as well as merging the other article you found if there are any companies that are missing from your draft. If you believe you have sufficient sources for an article about the Swedish game industry, you can make Video gaming in Sweden instead, since the category Category:Video gaming in Sweden currently lacks a main article._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 20:10, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Predator: Hunting Grounds

Honestly, you may as well delete that draft. The author was banned from Misplaced Pages a few months back and their only activity has been creating sock accounts that have been rooted out, as well. DÅRTHBØTTØ _(T•C) 22:31, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

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As I'm told the young people say - dude, WTF?

Snow keep after two keep votes? I mean, I agree it's a keep, but that seems... excessive. GirthSummit _(blether) 21:16, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

I would have voted keep as well, and it doesn't seem like WP:BEFORE was performed properly or that it would be controversial in any way to keep it. I just couldn't see anyone voting delete._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 21:22, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Snows should be obvious. Same-day and at-least one questioning keep is not usually a snow. --Izno (talk) 00:07, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I was a little too quick on the trigger, I will keep that in mind for next time._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 02:54, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Call of Duty League and its teams.

Hi Zxcvbnm,

Seeing as you recently approved the Call of Duty League article I was wondering if you could give a quick glance at some of the team articles as well. Predominantly the Draft:London Royal Ravens article which I believed was ready however another editor moved it back to draft as she deemed it as not noteworthy and also the Los Angeles Guerrillas article which I also thought was ready however the same editor decided to for some reason make a re-direct to the parent group which has only one mention of the team. I will also be working on the remainder of the teams that currently remain in the draft stage and hopefully I can get them up to scratch as soon as possible.

Kind regards --Brandon Downes (talk) 03:23, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@Brandon Downes:The Royal Ravens article seems lacking in both content and reliable sources to be notable. Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY, there should be something that is actually special about the team itself that would warrant an article. I'd say the Guerillas article is the same way. They should probably all be merged into the main Call of Duty League article for the time being, minus the unnecessary rosters._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 11:57, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

WP:EMAIL

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@Piotrus: I never really saw the need. Is there a need?_{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

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Newsletter interview

Hey there Zxcvbnm. Was wondering if you would be interested in being interviews for the Video Game Newsletter for this quarter. GamerPro64 19:56, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

@GamerPro64:Sure, I don't mind! I'm assuming I have to attach an email to my account though... :P_{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 20:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

No I don’t do email interviews. I usually have a draft set up somewhere here. I’ll write them up and then let you know when they are complete. GamerPro64 20:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Got some questions ready for you here.GamerPro64 04:26, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

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Help with External Wiki Link?

Hello Zxcvbnm! Perhaps you would be interested in helping me out with the following problem: You have repeatedly stated in AfD discussion that some fictional elements better should be covered in fan wikis. Quite a bit of Dungeons & Dragons content has now been removed from Misplaced Pages based on that. I would like to point interested readers to the Forgotten Realms Wiki, the most extensive and presumably most well-kept wiki for D&D from the Forgotten Realms article. However, there have been some objections to such a wiki link. Would you perhaps like to give your opinion here? Thanks a lot. Daranios (talk) 18:38, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello again! Maybe this went unnoticed before: You have recently advocated again that Fandom wikis can be valuable resources for content not deemed notable enough for Misplaced Pages. Would you like to help persons looking for such content on Misplaced Pages find such a resource by including a link to the Forgotten Realms Wiki at least in the Forgotten Realms article? Thanks. Daranios (talk) 15:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

@Daranios: Sorry for missing your message, you're right that I didn't catch it the first time. I added my statement of support._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:59, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Daranios (talk) 20:07, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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The Silent Cartographer

Hi, I saw that you seemed to be in support of this article, so I wanted to let you know that I gathered some sources. A little slapdash, but feel free to thumb through them if you'd like to try recreating the article. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 09:39, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

@Abryn: Excellent, that is quite a lot. I think it would be hard to argue that the level on its own is not notable now. Since you seem to be collecting sources for game levels, I also suggest attempting to find ones for the Demon's/Dark Souls levels, Anor Londo, Sen's Fortress and Tower of Latria which I made/attempted to make articles for in the past and were redirected as non-notable._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 11:35, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Sure, I can try gathering some sources on those. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 20:02, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

A goat for you!

I don't know why this category exists, but here, have a goat for your work on Silent Cartographer.

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Request on AFC Submission Draft: TruckersFM

Hey Zxcvbnm, I hope this is the correct way to contact you via your talk page.

Thanks for reviewing my Misplaced Pages article (TruckersFM) and I really do appreciate the feedback, I will be sure to add more reliable and noteworthy sources when they become available. I just wanted to ask as it was my first written Misplaced Pages article, was anything there anything else in your opinion holding it back from being approved? Appreciate you and your time! Thanks :) AlexanderBlackman (talk) 23:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

No, the article seems fine, the issue is just with the notability of the article. When I checked I could just find those two reliable independent sources, but if you can find another then let me know._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 02:25, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Zxcvbnm, I really do appreciate your feedback. I do have a article about TruckersFM written in Mandarin, however, am I correct in saying that articles are preferred to be written in the same language as the article? Otherwise, I will be sure to let you know when I do have another reliable independently sourced article (I hope letting you know via the talk page is ok?) thanks again! AlexanderBlackman (talk) 13:23, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

No, sources do not have to be in the same language. If there are other language sources that would be significant news sources, then it should definitely pass muster._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 14:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply, I have added this new source into the draft. I have re-submitted the draft for review. thank you again for your help and advice! AlexanderBlackman (talk) 14:35, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I think with that article it just scooches over the notability line, assuming it's an independent article written by a tech journalist. The other two articles weren't bad, but it needed more evidence of widespread coverage._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 21:37, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Understood, it is (to my knowledge) an article written by a independent journalist group in China and published on Sina (the Largest Chinese Internet Portal) however I understand it is a bit difficult to tell with it being in a foreign language that doesn't always translate very well. Either way, I'm happy to hear that you think it passes the mark and again, really appreciate you and your time in helping me (and the Misplaced Pages community!) AlexanderBlackman (talk) 23:09, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@AlexanderBlackman: I think one other thing is, the article photo given seems a bit unnecessary. It reads "Some members of the team", but gives no reason why it would be relevant to the article. Just as an example, the Microsoft article has a picture of Steve Ballmer because he is relevant, but not a group photo of the current members of a Microsoft department, because that wouldn't be. I would probably say it should be removed entirely, as there is no clear reason for it to be there.

Also, since you took the photo and are therefore evidently a member of said team, you should probably disclose that per WP:COIEDIT. Not that you are going against protocol since you are supposed to go through AfC in these sorts of situations, but not disclosing that fact is against Misplaced Pages policy regardless._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 11:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that advice, I wasn't aware and just thought it made a nice contribution to the Wiki Article, however since it doesn't really hold a purpose to reference the article I will remove it now. On the subject of conflict of interest, I thought the disclosure I have on my profile would be enough, but would I need to publish this anywhere else after removing the photo? AlexanderBlackman (talk) 13:41, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I assumed you had to put it on the talk page, but I'm not an expert on it, so maybe your own user page is sufficient. In any case, it otherwise seems okay, so I will approve it after some copyediting._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 16:18, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Fantastic news! Thank you so much Zxcvbm, it has been a really positive experience working on my first wikipedia article and having the pleasure to work with you. I have added the COI to my talk page as-well, just to be safe! Appreciate your time, experience and help. AlexanderBlackman (talk) 17:18, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Emulator article

Hi Zxcvbnm, thanks for reviewing my submission and I appreciate the feedback, though the submission was declined. I see that the reason it was declined is because it may seem too soon for an article exist; specifically, the fact that the subject of the article does not have a stable release version listed. Looking at a couple of similar published articles (currently maintained console emulators), neither contain stable releases either but are published nonetheless. Would subtracting the version info entirely (as one of them did) make the article eligible for publishing? Or is there something else I can add or subtract that would make the article worthy of publishing? --FrankOlney (talk) 23:05, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@FrankOlney: In my personal view, I don't think there is anything you can do to make it notable, although I declined rather than rejected the article just in case. I would caution using other emulator articles as a guide due to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, there are many other emulator articles that wouldn't survive AfD. An example of an emulator I would say is certainly notable is Dolphin (emulator). It got mentions in the highest echelons of the gaming press, such as Kotaku, PC Gamer, Engadget, and 1up.com among others. Contrasting to Ryujinx, it was only mentioned so far in relatively minor sites that wouldn't qualify as WP:RS. Perhaps in the future once development proceeds further it will pick up steam and have more traction, but I have no idea when that would be._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 02:54, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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Reception Section

Hey I am just wondering what I should put in the Reception section of Draft:Simon Belmont if not listicles.(Oinkers42) (talk) 19:34, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

@(Oinkers42): Preferably there would be significant mentions in articles from reputable outlets (see WP:VG/S for a list of most of them) that would indicate he is a character of note. Listicles would have been more than sufficient in the past but now standards are higher and "10th best whip-wielding character" is not a real indicator of any larger notability. An example of something significant is like this. It's a full article, written specifically discussing the character or their powers and critiquing their personality. Multiple things like that would indicate they are individually notable. Another example would be an article about the character's development. In the current draft there is no explanation why the character was made or why he is a whip-wielding vampire hunter, etc._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:56, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Copying within Misplaced Pages

Please remember to identify the source of the material in your edit when copying within Misplaced Pages. while I presume you referred to Adult_Swim when you said "main article", that doesn't meet with our best practices.

This type of edit does get picked up by Copy Patrol and a good edit summary helps to make sure we don't accidentally revert it. For future use, would you note the best practices wording as outlined at Misplaced Pages:Copying_within_Wikipedia? In particular, adding a link to the source and the phrase "see that page's history for attribution" helps ensure that proper attribution is preserved.S Philbrick(Talk) 17:34, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Champion (League of Legends)

It would appear as though your decision regarding this draft was ignored. DÅRTHBØTTØ _(T•C) 10:00, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Well I must give thanks for honoring my WP:G7 request on the article. Out of courtesy I’d like to ask you for the draft back here instead of at WP:REFUND..—Prisencolin (talk) 14:46, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

@Prisencolin: I wasn't the one who deleted the article, I'm not an admin. I just did a WP:NAC on the discussion because with the article deleted, there was no reason for it to continue._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 15:16, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

@Prisencolin: That said, as I said in the discussion there should be no need to restore a draft because it will never survive an AfD even if it manages to get through AfC. You are much better off focusing on improving League of Legends, which is still not even a Good Article and has an undersourced Champions section. Continuing to bypass consensus is going to be called out as disruptive editing sooner or later._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 15:36, 19 August 2020 (UTC)