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== Hoax in infobox. Another issue: a reformed sockpuppet ==

A Scandinavian municipality seems to be having (for at least the last half year), a hoax listed as its mayor. Please see infobox.<br><br>
Perhaps the following (linked) user , should be '''offered''' a time-limited unblock (on English Wiki), if Misplaced Pages needs one more expert's help?<br>(For the record, he seems to have had a minor (formal) upgrade of his/her status, at German Misplaced Pages, where he/she never has been blocked, it seems.) Happy New Year! ] (]) 06:06, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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    Plan B for server location?

    I've seen people suggest before to move W?F servers and/or the organization for copyright reasons. They are generally told (sometimes by myself) "yeah uuuh no" and I understand that, as US copyright law is "the devil you know".

    After seeing this thread on a village pump with links to articles that say that "new requirements will essentially mandate filters", an opt-out copyright claim tribunal within the United States Copyright Office will feed copyright trolls and plans that will allow notice-and-staydown of fair use content I have to wonder: is there a serious plan B? We know some copyright claims are made in extremely bad faith and some are downright moronic. If such "violations" can cost Wiki editors up to the "truly small" sum of $30,000, wouldn't it be irresponsible to continue hosting a wiki in the US? We can only hope that Biden will be able to halt Tillis' plans, but if that fails the W?F has a problem. I'm not sure how a wiki could legally operate if filters are required, or if it's even technically feasible. All fair use surely goes out of the window if monitoring uploads becomes mandatory, as fair use uploads for very obvious reasons will trigger those filters.

    So to come back to the original question.. Is there a plan B, just in case legal operation in the US becomes legally or technically unfeasible or irresponsible in regard to fines for end users? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:27, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

    In terms of jurisdiction, we should always remember that sensible copyright rules are a critical part of the legal infrastructure but not the only part. We must also consider a wide range of other issues and the US remains a great jurisdiction due to the First Amendment. And we've been through these kinds of copyright scares before - and emerged victorious. As a result, investing a huge amount of resources in a "plan B" for moving the WMF and all legal and server and staff infrastructure to another country would be premature. It's certainly an interesting "food for thought" mental exercise that many of us have engaged in over the years, but we are very far from needing to make that actual. Even if copyright rules took a turn for the worse in the US, as they already have in Europe (though not really implemented yet, the European Copyright Directive fight that we lost means that bad times are looming in Europe) - there would be time to evaluate seriously and figure out next steps.
    What needs to happen now is not planning to lose, but planning to win.
    I'll add one more thing - it is my personal intention (though of course not within my personal power at all) that Misplaced Pages will survive and thrive, no matter what we have to do to make that happen. If it's moving to another jurisdiction, then it's moving to another jurisdiction.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 07:16, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
    Thank you for your level-headed response! Your "planning to win" comment is inspiring. As the EFF commented on the DCA draft:
    Do not worry too much, though; as ever, EFF will be fighting for the Internet every step of the way, just as we did during the SOPA/PIPA fight with the help of countless Internet users and a broad coalition committed to the free and open Internet. This proposal is far worse than SOPA/PIPA, so our coalition will have to be stronger and more united than ever before. But we can meet that challenge. We—the Internet—must stop this terrible legislation in its tracks.
    Where do we start? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:52, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

    References

    1. ^ Katharine Trendacosta (2020-12-22). "This Disastrous Copyright Proposal Goes Straight to Our Naughty List (CC BY 3.0)".
    2. Ernesto Van der Sar (2020-12-22). "US Passes Spending Bill With CASE Act and Felony Streaming Proposal".
    3. Mike Masnick (2020-12-22). "Senator Tillis Releases Massive Unconstitutional Plan To Reshape The Internet In Hollywood's Image".
    4. Karsten Serck (2010-08-28). "Kampagnen-Video gegen HD+ auf YouTube gelöscht".
    5. "Die Wahrheit ueber HD Plus (reupload)". 2010-08-30.
    6. Julia Alexander (2019-10-15). "YouTube gets alleged copyright troll to agree to stop trolling YouTubers".
    7. Adam Neely (2020-02-06). "warner music claimed my video for defending their copyright in a lawsuit they lost the copyright for".
    8. Katharine Trendacosta and Jason Kelley (2020-12-07). "Today: Tell Congress Not To Bankrupt Internet Users". For one thing, Representative Doug Collins of Georgia said in an open hearing any claim with a $30,000 cap on damages was "truly small."

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    Indefinite semi-protection

    Hi Jimbo, I've responded to this request on WP:RFPP and semi-protected your userpage indefinitely for persistent vandalism. This is in response to multiple protections this year, most recently for six months. Indeed, the user page has spent most of 2020 semi-protected. As this goes against the "You can edit this page!" ethos on the page (but not the "please don't vandalise" subtext), I'm leaving a note here so people are aware of it. Ritchie333 15:42, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

    A barnstar for you!

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    Thank you Jimmy Wales Timofeib (talk) 22:29, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

    Hoax in infobox. Another issue: a reformed sockpuppet

    A Scandinavian municipality seems to be having (for at least the last half year), a hoax listed as its mayor. Please see infobox.

    Perhaps the following (linked) user , should be offered a time-limited unblock (on English Wiki), if Misplaced Pages needs one more expert's help?
    (For the record, he seems to have had a minor (formal) upgrade of his/her status, at German Misplaced Pages, where he/she never has been blocked, it seems.) Happy New Year! 89.8.94.194 (talk) 06:06, 1 January 2021 (UTC)