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Please help, about "Zhou Chengzhou"

Hi,

Dear RoySmith

Today, I found that the item about "Zhou Chengzhou"(https://en.wikipedia.org/Zhou_Chengzhou) has a clause to be deleted. I feel at a loss, so I added more reference sources for "Zhou Chengzhou" web pages, books and newspapers.

This deletion clause was proposed by AINH.

I respect the standards and terms of Misplaced Pages very much, and I always love Misplaced Pages and many thanks to helping us. If there is anything wrong with this clause, please give me some suggestions. I am very willing to accept the suggestions.

Best and have a good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Armidazhou (talk • contribs) 05:07, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

You've got mail

(t · c) buidhe 15:09, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Re, about "Zhou Chengzhou"

Hi,

I'm really as an new editor.. I don't know which sources are reliable. Could you please check the other sources in these links again? Thank you. Please check it again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/Zhou_Chengzhou

Or I find three new sources. Thank you so much.

https://aestheticamagazine.com/profile/zhou-chengzhou/

https://www.lensculture.com/2018-lensculture-art-photography-award-winners

https://www.adkfilmfestival.org/portfolio/sub-subconscious/

A masterpiece-Shape and color hatching square-Zhou Chengzhou. CHINA PHOTO PRESS(中国摄影报）: Fifth full page. 2018.（It is the largest official photographic newspaper in China）

This item is not easy to come by. Please review it again. Thank you soooo much!

Armidazhou (talk) 16:13, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a Misplaced Pages app for KaiOS phones. They don't have a touch screen so readers navigate with the phone keys. There is now a simulator so you can see what it looks like.
• The reply tool and new discussion tool are now available as the "Discussion tools" beta feature in almost all wikis except German Misplaced Pages.

Problems

• You will be able to read but not edit twelve wikis for a short period of time on 23 March at 06:00 (UTC). This can also affect password changes, logging in to new wikis, global renames and changing or confirming emails. This could take 30 minutes but will probably be much faster.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 March. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 March. It will be on all wikis from 25 March (calendar).
• Syntax highlighting colours will change to be easier to read. This will soon come to the first wikis.

Future changes

• Flagged revisions will no longer have multiple tags like "tone" or "depth". It will also only have one tier. This was changed because very few wikis used these features and they make the tool difficult to maintain.
• Gadgets and user scripts can access variables about the current page in JavaScript. In 2015 this was moved from wg* to mw.config. wg* will soon no longer work.

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16:51, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

GA review of Siwanoy

Thanks for your GA review of Siwanoy. I've incorporated many of your suggested changes and there is a standing request for an improved map on the article's talk page. Thanks. Rhythmnation2004 (talk) 13:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Carlisle & Finch

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Carlisle & Finch you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 14:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Carlisle & Finch

The article Carlisle & Finch you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Carlisle & Finch for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 18:01, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

block help

Hi Im here to ask for your help please. Im a novice with wikipedia, but ive recently wanted to edit some pages and discovered im blocked and your name is on the special block list as the blocker, so i thought i might ask for your advice please. I dont understand why ive been blocked. I also dont understand how to appeal, express my innocence or be unblocked. I havent attempted to edit wikipedia for very many years so im a bit upset that i discover recently i cant. I even made a donation a few years ago so i find it all a bit ironic now. Anyway, i dont recall even attempting to edit any page on a show called 'britannica', but my memory is not great due to a neurological condition i have so any advice you can offer to help me make a fair contribution to an article id like to edit would be great. Many thanks Valentine 2A04:4A43:467F:3EC:503C:E260:1FEE:B68E (talk) 00:33, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Can you tell me what page you were trying to edit, and the exact error message you got (copy-paste the full message). -- RoySmith (talk) 00:38, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

I actually get blocked from two things:

1) If i attempt to create a new account with wikipedia Or 2) I tried to edit the page on Eric Clapton (musician) approx one week ago by adding some details regarding the controversy attached to his name (the current entry is misleading regarding his present day position on the issue)

The error message says block ID #10364820 Evasion of block Related to Sockpuppet investigation by SethRuebens

Many thanks Valentine 2A04:4A43:467F:1B45:DE3:5070:F3CC:CE58 (talk) 23:52, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

OK, try creating an account now. I changed one of the block parameters so you should be able to do that now. If you're still having problems, let me know. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:59, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Roy, I have successfully created a wiki account in the name of VeMangoTree.

I attempted to edit the page of Eric Clapton (musician). My intention was to address some of the controversy in his personal life which is currently on the page only in a very selective and outdated way, which does not accurately reflect his contemporary views on the issue which he has given in recent interviews. The current page gives the false impression he continues to hold the same controversial views that he did back in the 1970s when he was going through addiction problems.

When attempting to add new details (with reference to a radio interview from 2018) i received an error message: This page has been protected to prevent editing or other actions.

Any advice please?

Also, is there any feedback you can give regarding the previous autoblock that you just helped fix please? I mean, what did I do wrong please, and how can I ensure it doesn't happen again?

Many thanks V VeMangoTree (talk) 22:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

VeMangoTree, Hmm, we don't actually have a page called Eric Clapton (musician), but we do have just plain Eric Clapton, which as you have noticed, is protected so that new users can't edit it. This was done a number of years ago, in response to persistent disruption. The level of protection applied is what we call "semi-protection", which means you will automatically be authorized to edit it once your account is four days old and you've accumulated 10 edits.

However, since you say you want to work on a controversial aspect of his personal life, I strongly urge you to read our policies on Biographies of living persons. We have a page called The Teahouse which is set up to help new editors navigate our often confusing and complicated policies. While you're waiting for your four days to run, you might want to post there, explain what you want to write about, and get some friendly advice. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:53, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Brilliant. I will follow that advice. Thanks so much.

VeMangoTree (talk) 19:36, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Carlisle & Finch

The article Carlisle & Finch you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Carlisle & Finch for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 10:21, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Requesting to change the protection level of A2Z (Philippine TV channel) and List of programs broadcast by A2Z (Philippine TV channel) to semi-protection

Hi, I would like to request to change to semi-protection of the page A2Z (Philippine TV channel) and List of programs broadcast by A2Z (Philippine TV channel) since you protected it. You protect the article because of the sockpuppetry of ASIANPOPCHANNEL, these 2 articles needs to be semi-protection because any sockpuppet accounts cant edit semi-protected articles until account is 4 days old and has made 10 edits. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 12:27, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

SeanJ 2007, Nope, sorry. This is long-term abuse and it's too easy to game autoconfirmed. Not to mention, for somebody who has been on wikipedia for 2 weeks, you have a surprisingly in-depth understanding of how things work. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 March 2021

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• In the media: Wikimedia LLC and disinformation in Japan

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• Recent research: 10%-30% of Misplaced Pages’s contributors have subject-matter expertise

• From the archives: Google isn't responsible for Misplaced Pages's mistakes

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• Obituary: Yoninah

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Tech News: 2021-13

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Some very old web browsers don’t work well with the Wikimedia wikis. Some old code for browsers that used to be supported is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers.
• IRC recent changes feeds have been moved to a new server. Make sure all tools automatically reconnect to irc.wikimedia.org and not to the name of any specific server. Users should also consider switching to the more modern EventStreams.

Problems

• When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split. It might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem.
• Some translatable pages on Meta could not be edited. This was because of a bug in the translation tool. The new MediaWiki version was delayed because of problems like this.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 March. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 March. It will be on all wikis from 1 April (calendar).

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17:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

spihelper

Hello RoySmith, I made this userbox for editors such as yourself who use spihelper. Jerm (talk) 01:14, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikitext	userbox	where used
{{User wikipedia/spihelper}}	This user manages sockpuppet investigations with spihelper.	linked pages

Possible sock account

Hi Roy, sorry to bother you. I hope you're well and don't mind me asking your help here, but as you were the last one to edit Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Rishabisajakepauler/Archive], could you please kindly check out this IP? I suspect it as another possible sockpuppet of Rishabisajakepauler, their edits seem to fall under the same interests, and they asked a user for help, and it happens to be the same user who one of Rishabisajakepauler's IPs asked helped from before. I did add a new section to the SPI, but not sure how quick that will get a response there, so your help would be appreciated. Thank you. AshMusique (talk) 08:30, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

AshMusique, Hi, thanks for your note. The best way to do this is to file a SPI report. Please see the "How to open an investigation" section of WP:SPI, for instructions. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Roy. I didn't immediatly realize that SPI case was archived. Either way, I've submitted a new report. Again, thank you. AshMusique (talk) 22:22, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Regarding this script-aided edit

Regarding the creation of a user page 'this is a sock master' at User:AK at Aquila Polonica Publishing‎, have you seen the unblock request at User_talk:AK_at_Aquila_Polonica_Publishing#Blocked_for_sockpuppetry and the accompanying one at User talk:Tataqp? See also my discussion with the blocking admin linked there; they have no objection to the unblock. I think it is a likely misunderstanding that the two new editors have already explained. Per WP:AGF/WP:BITE and such, I think the friendlier course of action would be to unblock them (and see what happens, if there is more tag-teaming, CU can be revisited). On a side note, marking that account as a sock master is not only counterproductive (uglifying a new editor's user page with an erroneous claim) - also that account will get auto-unblocked in few days so what's the point of the template if they can presumably remove it themselves? And if this is indeed a misunderstanding (per AGF I see no reason to assume it is not), it would mean that the CU block, while initially justified, in the light of the explanation provided, was in fact incorrect, so that template will probably need to be deleted/oversighted... Anyway, since their unblock request is already 2d old, may I kindly ask you to consider it instead of just templating their userpage? Unless there is new evidence suggesting that we are being played for fools here? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:51, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Piotrus, Thanks for your note. To be honest, while I acknowledge that paid advocacy editing is allowed if the rules are followed, I personally find it abhorrent and antithetical to what Misplaced Pages is all about. Like GeneralNotability, I have no objection if another admin wants to take action here, but I'm not going to bend over backwards to accommodate paid editors who claim they didn't understand the rules. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

RoySmith, As the author of WP:CORPSPAM, I have little sympathy for PAID editors either. And I would hardly be spending my time trying to help those editors if I thought their purpose here was related to COI. But each of those accounts made only a single edit to a different article related to the books their company publishes: , , and the edits themselves do not strike me as overly promotional, although I'd fully support cautioning those accounts to follow best practices, such as that they should propose such changes on the talk pages of the articles where COI is involved rather than carry them out themselves In fact, I'd be happy to put actions behind my words and try my hand at coaching them and offer WP:MENTORSHIP to both accounts if they are unblocked and coach them on how to avoid COI in their edits (which is not hard, really - all that needs to happen is to convince them not to edit the articles about their company and books, and see if they stick around and edit other stuff or not - this will also show us if they want to build an encyclopedia or promote stuff). And if I am wrong and they move on to making over-the-top COI edits, I have no problem with reverting them myself, and reporting them to COIN or elsewhere if necessary. Over the years I have mentored hundreds of students, this shouldn't be that different. What do you think? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Piotrus, Personally, I think you're nuts for investing this much effort in this, but that's your choice. I do however see that I made a mistake applying the tag. I was puzzled by your "auto-unblocked" comment. I now see that you were referring to the fact that they were not indef blocked, which I missed originally. I've deleted the tag, which backs out my total involvement with this. I'll leave it to you and GeneralNotability to figure out the blocking aspects. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

RoySmith, I guess I am in the mood for helping, even if it may be a lost cause - not that I think CoI is an issue, but probably I am putting much more effort into helping new editors who, statistically, are not going to be very active. But I see potential here - association with a publisher means, for example, they have access to photos, maps, or diagrams, not to mention book covers, they could relicense under a free license and that would enhance a number of articles. I'd like to convince them to adopt CC license for such media. Alas, this requires some goodwill and we are hardly building this with them given how we are treating them (and now ignoring their appeal). We talk a lot about the need to recruit new editors, problems with retention - and when push comes to shove, what I am seeing is, well, BITE everwhere :( Let me help here. I'll also ping GeneralNotability as you did, given that next to nobody seems interested in helping out here. I hope that my offer of mentorship for those accounts would resolve any lingering concerns? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

Administrator changes

Alexandria • Happyme22 • RexxS

Guideline and policy news

• Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
• Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

Technical news

• When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
• Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)

Arbitration

• A community consultation on the Arbitration Committee discretionary sanctions procedure is open until April 25.

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