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User:Majorfun

I tried to set up an RIP for User:Majorfun per WP:DWG, but I don't see his name appear on Category:Deceased Wikipedians. Is it just a matter of changing "{{desceased}}" to {{Deceased Wikipedian}}"? -Thibbs (talk) 16:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh I figured it out myself. I had tagged the talk page rather than the main userpage. -Thibbs (talk) 15:32, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Question! How can a person ensure that after his death that their name is updated here.

Hi let's take me for an example. People who knows me personally outside Misplaced Pages, don't know that I am Misplaced Pages editor and its not like that I can leave a will, that my name should be updated here once I passed away. And the people who knows me in Misplaced Pages don't know me personally. But I would really like to have my name up there as its my legacy, to show that I have helped to pass the knowledge to another generation.

Don't freak out, it not like I am not planning to die any time soon, but who knows right!. I joined Misplaced Pages to share the knowledge and want that legacy to be kept.

I took a long break from Misplaced Pages an just came back but I found that some had placed a deletion tag on my page. Lucky for me some good Samaritan removed that. I don't want these to happen also.

Not sure if this is the right place to talk all these details, considering the people mentioned in the other page is no longer with us. But I writing this with full respect to them and they too might have wanted this and had help from someone. But there are lot people who don't.

Please remove if this section is in appropriate for this page and I would fully respect that.

Just checking!. Thanks. KAS 19:16, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Kirananils possibly, tell people who know you IRL that you edit Misplaced Pages, and make that connection known on-wiki. This might require you WP:OUTING yourself, though. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 00:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Kirananils, you could add it to your will, namely that you're Misplaced Pages editor Kirananils, and would someone in your real life please contact (you would have to name an editor) to inform them in the event of anything unmentionable. And you could leave instructions for that editor to say X and Y on this page, depending on whether you want to be real-named at that point or not. SarahSV 05:05, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Elliot321 & SarahSV. Thanks for the suggestions. KAS 16:50, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

I'd appreciate input on this

Hello. I requested an edit on Template talk:Deceased Wikipedian#Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2021 and I was told to come here to have someone consider my request I made, with one backtrack I made in my last reply. Thank you. 2603:301D:22B2:4000:8C26:41A9:43ED:5BD3 (talk) 16:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

To avoid a discussion fork, allow me to suggest that the discussion be continued on the template's talk page rather than here. So please go to Template talk:Deceased Wikipedian#Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2021 to add your thoughts and ideas. Thank you very much! P.I. Ellsworth  ed.  17:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Yoninah

I don't know if this is the appropriate venue to share this information, (Redacted) I, as I'm sure many people across Misplaced Pages will be, devastated to hear of her passing. She was huge part of why I've continued my editing here. May she rest in peace. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 08:13, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing. I was afraid that this was the reason, but am still shocked to tears. We ran a project together to improve the Psalms articles, - any help with that will build her legacy. Best so far Psalm 84, about "The Pilgrim's Love and Longing for God and His House". Her contributions were a blessing for the project. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Indeed, such a blessing her contributions and guidance were! My soul longeth for the ability to write such a tidy and pleasant article as seen at Psalm 84. My knowledge of the topic you mention is quite limited, but I would be happy to help in whatever way I can after acquainting myself with the articles. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 12:04, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

If true, this is devastating to many on Misplaced Pages, including myself. She was one of our most consistent pillars on Misplaced Pages, in particular WT:DYK. — Maile (talk) 12:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Mccunicano: did it occur to you that, without an on wiki self-identification or a relative posting, etc., then maybe there is no appropriate venue to share information that you have "researched" off-wiki? If someone hasn't self-identified as a Wikipedian off-wiki, then perhaps it's because they had private reasons for not doing so. ——Serial 12:59, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Linking to off-wiki information about an editor and their real-life identity is frowned upon, but such content does not need to be linked to be true. Primefac (talk) 15:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Very sad to hear this. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:59, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

An omnipresence on Misplaced Pages. This is very sad news. Ergo Sum 15:09, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Ptmccain

Ptmccain (talk · contribs · block log) made 1,300 edits over 5 months in 2006, 433 of which were to a single article (Martin Luther). As a result of persistent 3RR breaches on this article and, later, trolling on ANI, this user acquired an extensive block log, culminating in an indefinite block in 2006 which remains in place today. I am not sure how the project has handled such situations in the past (if it has even had to deal with them), but I would like to suggest that it may not be appropriate to list this user on this page - or, at the very least, to revise the note the explain that Ptmccain was not always a positive contributor to the encyclopedia. This, that and the other (talk) 00:12, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

• Isn't it 'Deceased Wikipedians', not 'Deceased Wikipedians We Consider In Good Standing'? I don't see how someone's block log should matter here. We have other editors listed here, such as John Patrick Bedell, who had less edits and committed criminal acts. So where should we draw the line? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alison (talk • contribs) 01:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
  • As I understand it, we list former editors here or at WP:MIA to document that they no longer edit. Any editor that was banned (or indefinitely blocked) isn't editing because of what they did, so there's no reason to note their apparent death. Besides that, this isn't an objective list of deceased Wikipedians; it's a hagiography designed to politically demarcate which behaviors we want to praise. Blocked/banned editors almost suffer damnatio and do not deserve listing here. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:31, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
  • It depends ultimately on how you define "Wikipedian". In any case, if Bedell is there I am willing to accept that Ptmccain should be too. His obituary will need some editing though. This, that and the other (talk) 01:35, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    • I've rewritten the obituary. This, that and the other (talk) 03:08, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
• I agree that the circumstances of someone's contributions should be noted truthfully in an obituary, but making their recognition conditional on being in good standing seems rather distasteful to me. I think it is good to honor the dead. jp×g 09:06, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Length guidelines

Looking at how different Misplaced Pages:Deceased Wikipedians/2021, in style and especially the number of words, is from all the preceding years, I wonder whether it would be appropriate to add a brief suggestion about how to write entries to the guidelines page. Much of the length recently is due to duplicating Signpost articles and comments posted elsewhere. Maybe the advice should be "usually a few sentences" and "link to longer pieces"? WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)