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Your Republic of China edits

You are making significant edits to a wide number of articles and it is unclear what the point of this is. If the map that you keep removing at e.g., is not right then please provide a valid map instead. The article clearly states that "Today the Republic of China is often known as "Chinese Taipei" or "Taiwan" and the Map clearly states that it is refering to Taiwan and so I do not see the logic of removing a map that the article agrees is valid. Misplaced Pages is not about what is true but what is verifiable. I guess I could edit the map and "photoshop" Taiwan and replace that with "Republic Of China" by why bother if this is already clear. Ttiotsw 09:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• I simply want to WP:cleanup the article, to make it more understandable for the public. Tonytypoon 22:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
• These edits are getting confusing. The vast majority of English readers and writers do not refers to Taiwan as RoC or RoC on Taiwan. They might be appropriate within specific context. However, most people refer to the RoC as Taiwan. It is used in all English newspaper articles and references. People don't refer to the UK or Britain as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Most people refer to China as China and not as the People's Republic of China. Likewise for North Korea, etc. More importantly, using RoC instead of Taiwan will confuse most people because the word "China" is most often used to mean the PRoC. There is no reason for these mass edits. --Comatose51 08:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Can you stop changing Taiwan into Taiwan,ROC, or ROC? ROC is known as Taiwan. Stop saying Taiwan isn't a country.--Jerrypp772000 21:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Your edits reflect unenforceable extraterritorial claims

I feel uncomfortable that Misplaced Pages is being edited across a number of articles to remove the word Taiwan whenever the sequence Republic of China or ROC is used. In places it is gramatically edited to say "ROC on Taiwan" which makes poor or little sense in English. This kind of edit has also damaged intra-article content links. The aim of your edits is to reflect the now-obsolete extraterritorial constitutional claims of the Republic of China in Misplaced Pages. These claims are embodied in your edit summary of or e.g. you claim that "This article isn't just about the ROC on Taiwan, but also the ROC on Mainland China. ROC is not equal to Taiwan, so that map is misleading. ROC's territory includes all of Mainland China, Mongolia,etc". This is nonsense as the Republic of China is not even a recognised country by many. The ROC article reflects current scope of the country not anachronistic claims. The Foreign_relations_of_Mongolia article shows the nonsense of the ROC extra-territorial claims as Mongolia is a UN, WHO, ITU etc etc member. Misplaced Pages should reflect what is in fact the reality of modern politics not wishful thinking. For edits to ROC to be made to claim Mongolia is non-Neutral and certainly does not reflect modern political reality. I would suggest that you show more willing to negotiate other than simply continuously reverting peoples edits with the same summary and you can do this by adding a map to the Republic of China article which accurately reflects the territorial extent. Ttiotsw 08:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Map of Taiwan

I have again replaced the map of Taiwan (image) that you deleted from Republic of China. I am NOT arguing with you regarding ROC's claims to all of China - that is, as you say, a fact. But, in turn, I ask that you acknowledge the FACT that ROC is currently PHYSICALLY located on Taiwan, and the FACT that such a map IS useful to readers.

I also understand that you may feel that the caption of the map is wrong. If so, please CHANGE THE CAPTION. The caption CAN be edited by you. Please do NOT remove the entire map if you disagree with the caption. Thanks. John Broughton | Talk 14:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

SVG??

Is it possible to upload SVG files, and have wiki automatically convert it on the fly to png? If so how do I do this, when I tried to upload an SVG it said it was not a recommended format, I did not see a way to force it to go. I noticed in the uploaded files area you have a couple that are .svg.png. Anyway, please resond on my user-talk page. Thanks. --Green-Dragon 06:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Lin Chiling article

The Lin Chiling article does not conform to Misplaced Pages standards and requires cleanup. A simple listing of "facts" is not a Misplaced Pages article. DO NOT REMOVE THE TEMPLATE AGAIN. If you refuse to conform to the rules of Misplaced Pages, I will have to report your actions as vandalism. If you disagree with the edits, please discuss in the talk page for the article, which is linked to by the template. I added the citation tag because we disagree on some "facts". If you disagree, please cite creditable sources. Comatose51 08:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Reply...

Thanxs for the message. It's controversial to label "Taiwan" as a province. It's administered by the ROC government, but the country and the government that governs it are collectively known as Taiwan in popular lingual. There no need to remove info regarding the position of Taiwan and it's neighboring islands. The current version is based on years of discussions on the Taiwan talk page, so try not to mess with the consensus derived from all the discussions.
I understand where you're coming from, but try to remain as nonpartisan as possible on Misplaced Pages. =D Jumping cheese 05:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

See Talk: Taiwan and Talk: Republic of China. There more than enough disputes regarding the name of "Taiwan" to shake a stick at. I checked the page history of Taiwan and did not find the pervious version you claimed. For example, see , a random diff from over a year ago. I'm going to revert your edits and I going to have to ask you to withhold from engaging in a edit war before the dispute is settled. Thanxs! Jumping cheese 06:15, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

3RR block

You are blocked from editing wikipedia for 24h. WP:3RR vio.--CSTAR 06:34, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Nationalist (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Other people also violated this but they did not get blocked. It is unfair that I was the only one who got blocked. Also, I would just like to carry on the discussion about this topic with Cheese and others so I would like to be unblocked ASAP

Decline reason:

While I can understand your frustration, 3RR blocks are put in place specifically to discourage edit warring; you'll still be quite able to edit and discuss, once the block expires, provided you avoid any further 3RR violations. Looking at the page history, I didn't see any other editors go over 3 reverts, but if I'm missing some, feel free to link the diffs in question (you may want to email me if you do so. Please consider dispute resolution once your block expires. Apologies. Luna Santin 10:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

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Edits to Chien-Ming Wang

Your recent contribution(s) to Misplaced Pages did not provide specific references or sources. Keeping Misplaced Pages accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a drive to improve the quality of Misplaced Pages by encouraging editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. Editors may choose to remove material you have contributed if it is not verifiable. Please provide specific references in your contributions to any books, articles, websites or other reliable sources that will allow people to verify the content. You can use a citation method listed at inline citations that best suits each article. Yankees76 05:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. Vic226_(chat) 16:12, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

1. Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Chien-Ming Wang is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Yankees76 03:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Yankees76 03:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Edits to Guantian, Tainan

Stop it! Guantian is in Taiwan. On the island, and in the ROC, which is known as Taiwan. Again, see the naming conventions for yourself! Taiwan is the common name for the ROC. Stop trying to confuse the people. And if you really like the ROC that much, there is a link to the ROC in Taiwan anyways.

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. --Jerrypp772000 15:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Chi-ling Lin Mediation Request

I've accepted the request for mediation on this article. Please leave a quick note on my talk page that you're aware of this and we can begin the discussion there. Flakeloaf 16:38, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

helllo, are you user chiang kai-shek from before? You don't wanna get banned again man BlueShirts 20:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: User Jerrypp772000 has violated 3RR

Looking at the history of Guantian, Tainan, it looks like nobody's made more than three reverts at this point in time. You're welcome to make a report at the 3RR noticeboard, if you like. All else aside, I'd encourage you to do everything possible to discuss your changes on talk pages instead of revert warring. We have a fairly robust dispute resolution process, on the wiki, and you're free to make use of it. In disputes with only two users, requests for a third opinion can be very helpful. Luna Santin 23:04, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey!

so...blueshirt brings up a point. Are you User:Heqong?!? Not that I mind, but the edits look rather similar. Jumping cheese 06:49, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Your contributions history shows that you have been aggressively cross-posting in order to influence the birthplace of Chien-Ming Wang. Although the Arbitration Committee has ruled that "he occasional light use of cross-posting to talk pages is part of Misplaced Pages's common practice", such cross-posting should adhere to specific guidelines found in Misplaced Pages:Spam. In the past, aggressively worded cross-posting has contributed towards an Arbitration Committee ruling of disruptive behavior that resulted in blocking. It is best not to game the system, and instead respect Misplaced Pages's principle of consensus-building, by ceasing to further crosspost, and instead allowing the process to reflect the opinions of editors that were already actively involved in the matter at hand. Thank you.16:47, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:LadnavYankees76 16:47, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

hey nationalist, I suggest you talk to Jiang or miborovsky about it. I think they have had experiences with this sort of idiocy, the guy just doesn't get it. The CIA World Factbook doesn't even mention "ROC", so does that mean the ROC doesn't exist? Fucking dumbasses, and I blame china for that. I think we all better call ourselves Chinese Taipei from now on, since that's what the official taiwanese baseball association calls itself in english, jeez. BlueShirts 23:49, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Stop editing Guantian, Tainan, Jiali, and Madou, I already told the reasons many times.

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing.--Jerrypp772000 03:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

You have removed several user warnings from your user or user talk page. These warnings are not put on your talk page to annoy you; they were placed here because other editors have noticed an issue with your behaviour that may require improvement. They are a method of communication and user talk pages stand as a record of communication with you. If you do not believe the warning was valid or have a question about improving your behaviour you can respond here or visit the help desk. If your talk page is becoming long, you can archive it in accordance with the guidelines laid out here. Thank you. Vic226_(chat) 20:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

User pages are not yours

Please read Misplaced Pages:User_page#Ownership_and_editing_of_pages_in_the_user_space and you will see that you are not allowed to remove warnings from your talk page. User pages belong to the community and not you. Thanks. --Borgarde 04:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Taiwan and the Republic of China

I take it you are from the Republic of China. Please note that this encyclopedia is in English. In the English speaking world Taiwan is the common name for Republic of China, while China is the common name for People's Republic of China. Please stop removing Taiwan and adding Republic of China, most of the English speaking world would not be familiar with the situation with both Chinas. But, they will recognise Taiwan as ROC, and China as PROC. --Borgarde 04:43, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Disruption of Chien-Ming Wang Article

1. Please refrain from repeatedly undoing other people's edits . If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. The three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, please discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. Yankees76 05:00, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Yankees76 05:00, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Removal of editing warnings

You have removed several user warnings from your user or user talk page. These warnings are not put on your talk page to annoy you; they were placed here because other editors have noticed an issue with your behaviour that may require improvement. They are a method of communication and user talk pages stand as a record of communication with you. If you do not believe the warning was valid or have a question about improving your behaviour you can respond here or visit the help desk. If your talk page is becoming long, you can archive it in accordance with the guidelines laid out here. Thank you. MKoltnow 05:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

For your convenience: Tuxide 05:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)