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Please do not add nonsense to Misplaced Pages. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Rumpelstiltskin223 23:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC) Excuse me? What nonsense? Please be specific. MinaretDk 23:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Please do not remove sourced edits and mass-blank text. It is vandalism and will be reported. If you have any problems discuss in the talk page first. Also, see WP:STALK regarding your edits to Anti-Brahmanism. Thaa. Rumpelstiltskin223 00:07, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually I explained myself on the talk page. Rediff is not an established reliable source, and everything else I deleted was either irrelevant, or uncited. Your talk page shows you get banned frequently, Maybe you should entertain the possibility that you are in the wrong here. MinaretDk 00:10, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

No.Also, please see these refs:

Also, rediff is considered a reliable source on wikipedia. there is no if, and or but here.You should familiarize yourself more with wikipedia rules. Thaa. Rumpelstiltskin223 00:13, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

What is your point? The 'rediff' article doesn't even name its author. For all we know its copied from another publication. WP:RS outlines what makes a reliable source. Nothing to suggest rediff is a reliable source. I dont dispute US state dept is a reliable source, so thats irrelevant. Thuu. MinaretDk 00:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Please read WP:CIVIL.

Rediff is a reliable source. Simple. If you have issues get a mediator. Rumpelstiltskin223 00:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

3RR

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. Rumpelstiltskin223 00:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Looking at your user page, you should know all about being banned for 3RR. MinaretDk 00:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I have not violated 3RR. Please discuss in the talk page per my references. You have also removed newstoday, a reliable source. Are you saying that that is also not a reliable source? That is incredulous. What is a reliable Source to you? Rumpelstiltskin223 00:29, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

These sources look like partisan rags. Cheap local newspapers can't be considered reliable. Amongst the rediff sources used are those where the authors name isn't mentioned. It seems to me rather than collecting information from solid sources, you are trying to promote your POV using anything that has ever been made into text regardless of factual integrity. 00:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

TIME magazine is a "partisan rag"? Heeee!!! How about "Amnesty International" and here? Also a partisan rag? Your rhetoric betrays your bias I'm afraid. Rumpelstiltskin223 01:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

What on earth are you talking about? Did I delete content citing Amnesty International? Use sources of high quality that people won't dispute, and get rid of low quality sources like "Rediff". MinaretDk 02:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Only you say they are low quality. Nobody else says so. Rumpelstiltskin223 03:06, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

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I didn't say you're a Hindu fundementalist, I said you have their POV. That is not a personal attack, but an observation. Please invest more effort into not editing with such disregard for neutrality and factual accuracy. Please attempt to demonstrate less sympathy for Hindu extremism and their militant/terrorist actions. Please stop portraying the Hindu community in Bangladesh as being chronic victims of some imaginary atrocity. I'll refrain from using the phrase I used, regardless of how accurate it seems. MinaretDk 06:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Please Assume good faith, of which your statements above are a violation. Rumpelstiltskin223 22:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

The same to you as well. I could just as easily say that, given the overwhelming references (BBC, Amnesty International) proving endemic persecution of Hindus in Bangladesh, that your attempts to whitewash it belie an Islamic Fundamentalist POV line those of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh or the BNP. Rumpelstiltskin223 22:23, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

You could just as easily say that, but then you'd be lying.I never deleted content citing BBC or Amnesty. There's nothing wrong with Jamaat i Islami. They explicitly state Hindus have a right to follow and enjoy their customs. Compare that to Baal Thakeray, who said Muslims shouldn't be allowed to pray in public view. MinaretDk 22:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

In fact, Thackeray also said "We must accept the Muslims and make them a part of us". You should read Nobel Laureate VS Naipaul's books more. JI never said anything good about Hindus. They regard Hindus as subhuman infidels who should be massacred as per their false interpretation of the holy Qu'ran. Rumpelstiltskin223 23:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Finally, despite all of this conflict, Muslims in India are among the freest in the world to practice Shariat and the entire range of the Fiqh. We pay Hajj subsidies to Muslims in India. An Indian Muslim was one of two people in history to translate the holy Qu'ran properly into English (Yusuf Ali) and the President of India is a Muslim. No such equivalent thing has happened for Hindus in Bangladesh, who are being hunted down to extermination. Rumpelstiltskin223 23:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

If I were some kind of "anti-Muslim Hindu" from the pages of Lashkar-e-Toiba's propaganda leaflets, would I have made this suggestion to Islamophobia and expressed an interest in re-writing the article with historical instances of anti-Islam sentiments, or made these additions to Anti-Arabism? Rumpelstiltskin223 23:59, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Finally, in India, anti-Islam books like the "Calcutta Quran petition" are banned, whereas anti-Hindu hate literature disseminated by Lashkar-e-Toiba like "Hinduon ki Haqeeqat" is allowed to circulate freely. In Bangladesh, one Muslim woman, Taslima Nasrin, writes books critical of Islamic Fundamentalism and her books are banned and she gets death threats. Rumpelstiltskin223 00:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

This Rumpel thing is none other than HKelkar, under a ban of 1 year for disruption of almost the same set of articles.Now trying to evade the ban through some loopholes in technology.As you would see User:Hkelkar's edits, he has a habit of raking up populist speak like the one's above.87.74.2.15 10:36, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

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Fine, I'll replace it with sourced, more pointed criticism. Arrow740 03:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. MinaretDk 04:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

NPA

Please stop. If you continue to make personal attacks on other people, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Thank you. . Misplaced Pages is not a madrassa. Rumpelstiltskin223 23:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

3RR

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Thanks for the warning. I'm on 3 edits. The other editor is deleting content that has rock solid sources, so his work is pretty much vandalism. All he's doing is basically presenting misinformation and propaganda. MinaretDk 00:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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My edits include valid citations, the people i'm fighting against disregard NPOV, VS, etc. I avoid violating 3RR as best I can. Under the circumstances, given the habit of accusation and vandalism of the person I was in conflict adopts, and given this admins picking-and-choosing which violators he punishes, this block should be undone.

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Other users notice same thing that I do: MinaretDk 01:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

ANI report on your block

Please see this report. Rama's arrow 05:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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