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Failte! Welcome!

Alright, everyone. I asked for it, and recieved enough support that I believe this project is worth it. Come out ye Fennians all! Let us do or die! Erin Go Bragh 08:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I thought this group was about writing articles on the IRA, not supporting it. Logoistic 00:42, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Your thoughts were correct. I use quite a bit of fanciful language like that, out of habit. I do refrain from it in articles, though. Erin Go Bragh 03:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

By which, I mean of course, adding ourselves to the Participants list, and start collaborating! Erin Go Bragh 03:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Banner

As you can see, I've been bold and used Image:Erin Go Bragh flag.jpg for out Banner. I love the flag, and would propose it as sort of an official image for out WikiProject. Erin Go Bragh 09:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Might I suggest an alternative image, namely File:Ie pres.png ? This flag symbolises Irish republicanism and is an "official" flag, as opposed to the current flag, which feels something like a caricature. gaillimh 23:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I think the symbol we already have symbolises Irish republicanism and nationalism more than the one suggested by Galway.--Vintagekits 23:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't think the President's personal standard really represents Irish republicanism. I just plain like the one we're using; it's got lots of symbolism in it, and it has my name! ; ) Erin Go Bragh 02:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure how your name is relevant to the discussion. While we're on the topic however, it might be of interest for you to know that Swift's parents were English-born and he had actually spoken out against the idea of a united Ireland. That is to say, he was most certainly not a nationalist. Back to the subject at hand however, the flag is most definitely a symbol of republicanism. If you prefer, the Leinster flag would work just as well (it looks a bit like your favoured flag). In as far as having "Erin Go Bragh" included on the banner, I'd have to be opposed to that, as the phrase itself is not used in Ireland and is a caricature created by Irish-Americans. gaillimh 03:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

INLA

Do groups such as the Irpies, or the political groups fall under this scope? -- Pauric (talk-contributions) 21:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd say yes to the INLA. They're an armed republican group in Ireland. As for political groups, like the "political wings" of the various IRAs, I'm not sure. I'd venture to say "Yes, why not?", but it does take some consideration, I guess. Erin Go Bragh 02:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Change of name and of focus

Hi there! I'd love to collaborate with some of you on writing articles pertaining to Irish nationalism. However, to avoid some potential conflict down the road, might I humbly suggest changing the name of the WikiProject to WikiProject Irish Nationalism, WikiProject Irish Republicanism, or a similar derivitave. The IRA, while an important and necessary part of Irish nationalism, does not encapsulate the entire ideal, and might appear contentious, especially given the recent steps towards peace. A less contentious name might attract more users to participate, as well! Just a thought. Sláinte! gaillimh 22:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to suggest that this project change to being Wikiproject Irish Republicanism, and make sure that all people with an interest in the subject take part. There's a danger with projects like these that they become perceived as an organisation to put forward an Irish Republican point of view; because of neutral point of view that often results in someone stepping up to close the whole thing down. Sam Blacketer 23:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Probably a good idea, just IRA to limiting imo.--Vintagekits 23:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I started the project to collaborate on articles directly related to the IRA. While I'd love to see collaboration on other aspects or Irish nationalism and republicanism, I must stress that the initial objective of the project was to collaborate on articles related to the Irish Republican Army. As I mentioned when Gaillimh brought up the same thing on my own talk page:

The lines I added to the page about including broader topics such as Irish Nationalism and Irish Republicanism were much more of an afterthought. I'd love to see people working on other aspects of Irish Nationalism, but I'd really like to use this WikiProject to focus on the IRA. If the project does widen a bit, I don't quite see why the name would have to change. I wouldn't say no outright, but I really feel like WP:IRA is an excellent title! It's short, catchy, easy to remember, and it's got such a nice shortcut!

I don't quite understand the motivation for a change in name. Does it really matter that much? If some of us feel like we want to use this space to collaborate on other aspects of Irish nationalism & Irish republicanism, does that really require us to change the name of our project? Erin Go Bragh 03:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

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