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Response to your suggestion on my talk page

Hey man, I always ensure that I am logged in while editing, you can check the edit log & I have edited the article through my account.. Maybe its the issue where people share the IP address in question,I can assure you that I use my account to edit any article. I just have a single account named "Lord Elzai". Hope this sorts it out. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year in Advance!- LORD ELZAI

Colemanhull

Socks have now migrated to History of Boston (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). FDW777 (talk) 13:20, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

OK, protected that too, and blocked the /27. If any more pop up, could you file them at the SPI page? That makes it easier to process. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:55, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
That's fine, thank you. Just as the previous result was just semi-protecting Boston, wasn't sure if all the paperwork needed filling in or not. FDW777 (talk) 14:27, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
The big advantage of reporting it at SPI is that we then get a permanent record in the archives, which comes in handy during future investigations. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Paragraph-Based Edit Conflict Interface

It appears that about five days ago, you filed a complaint about a useless error message on an edit conflict, that is, a race condition. I encountered what was evidently the same useless message, and clicked on the same link, and was taken to the same page. The documentation says that the message is disabled for talk pages, and that another version will be available for talk pages later this year. I think that the problem is that the message is disabled for pages in talk namespaces, but not for project pages that are used as talk pages. I got the message at the Teahouse. So I agree that the only useful response is to copy what one has typed, paste it to Notepad or Wordpad, abort the edit, and try again. And, yes, you will get the stupid reminder that you are about to leave the page. So the problem is that they know that the way the race condition is handled is useless on talk pages, but it doesn't know that a project page is a talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:08, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Brad Watson, Miami

He's been active recently. 2601:583:681:8430:d5e7:c08c:d07a:573c (talk · contribs) but also see the history of Talk:Seven Seals. What I'm not sure about is whether to add some IPs to Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Brad Watson, Miami. @GeneralNotability: you've been involved also, what do you think? Doug Weller talk 16:37, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I've pinged both of you at Dennis Brown's page where he and Bish are discussing this. And in the last little while, 50.253.143.113 (talk · contribs). Doug Weller talk 17:22, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

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22:06, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Possible sockfarm back again

Sir, it is in relation to this LTA case at ANI. Looks like it is back in this specific article, though it claims to revert the edits done by this very specific LTA, I suspect it is a case of misleading to and fro (good hand bad hand) edits and reverts as demonstrated by the various IPs and puppets of the sockfarm. This very IP engaged in it before , , , ultimately settling in with a version it reverted claiming to be from the LTA and also claims to have discussed that in the talk page but apparently not . This IP is from central Asia but judging by it large range , I believe it may be them. Since the case started at ANI with a concern about the protection of this particular article, I thought of notifying you/continuing here. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:20, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Please file a report at SPI, thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:39, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

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Another Raxythecat sock

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I have filed a new SPI with evidences. 112.79.72.43 (talk) 17:48, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Prespa78

Hello Roy. Regarding your decision in Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Prespa78, maybe i am wrong, but the way i see it User:Prespa78 violated WP:ILLEGIT. He/She obviously didn't forget his/her password, because as aforementioned, just minutes prior of creating the new account he/she thanked me for my revert with the former account. It appears that he/she logged out to create a new account, in order to avoid scrutiny; a quick review of the new account's edits, shows that without exception, they are all disruptive and with a nationalist overtone. He/She is clearly not here to build an encyclopedia. This is also a misuse of a clean start. I know you used Template:Nto; if you can provide some additional explanation i would appreciate it. Again, maybe i have misunderstood something, and that's ok; honestly, i am trying to understand the relevant policies and guidelines better. Demetrios1993 (talk) 15:36, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. You are certainly correct that creating a new account isn't a free pass to continue to be disruptive. In this case, it's certainly possible, but it wasn't clear enough to me. The general rule is, "if in doubt, don't block". If they're really a sock, it'll become obvious soon enough and we can always go back and take another look if problems persist. And, if an account is being disruptive, there's certainly nothing that prevents an admin from blocking them on that basis regardless of the outcome of a SPI. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:50, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the additional explanation; i appreciate your time. By the way, User:Arion Murati (new account) continued with the disruptive editing today (new account's contributions). This includes the article George Tenet, that was vandalized by User:Prespa78 (former original account); this is obviously the same user. Even though an essay, isn't WP:DUCK relevant in this case? Demetrios1993 (talk) 16:29, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
OK, I'll take a look at Arion. Could I ask that you file a new SPI; that makes it easier to process, thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:32, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Oh, never mind, I'll just reopen the existing one. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:33, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Well, I took another look. I'm afraid I see this as a content dispute about whether Tenet is Greek or Albanian. From looking at Talk:George Tenet#Ethnic roots of George Tenet, it appears this isn't the first time this debate has come up. I don't see that it quite rises to the level of vandalism. The best I can suggest is try to engage with them and other editors on the talk page and work towards consensus. WP:3O may be of some value. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:43, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

But there was consensus in the aforementioned thread, and the content is after all referenced. On the other hand, User:Prespa78/User:Arion Murati has been disrupting the article by removing referenced content and adding WP:OR with an edit war approach. Isn't this vandalism? He/She has already been warned by three different editors (User:LouisAragon, User:M.Bitton, and myself), yet continues with the same mentality. Demetrios1993 (talk) 19:14, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

I just ran my own checks and I agree with Amanda's "possible" finding. As I said earlier, they may indeed be the same person but I'm not seeing enough to convince me that's the case. I don't have a crystal ball, all I can do is go by my best judgement. I'm sorry, but I don't have anything better I can give you. Perhaps somebody at WP:RFPP would be willing to apply page protection. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:00, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
It's ok Roy; i understand. Your approach of requiring certainty before enforcing any particular sanction is reasonable. Thank you once again for your time. Demetrios1993 (talk) 20:10, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

ANI closure

Thank you, Roy. Yellow card accepted and, as you say, 'nuff said. All the best. No Great Shaker (talk) 10:13, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

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