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Pasoori
Hello, and thanks for your edits to Pasoori. The idea behind adding the transliteration in Hindi, Gurmukhi, and Urdu in the article Lead is to make it easier for readers to read and pronounce it in language they might be more familiar with if they don't speak and/or can't read Punjabi. Just like you yourself have added the transliteration in English (bhasūṛī) in an Infobox. Additional languages make Wiki pages more inclusive and accessible. Transliterations are best placed in the article lead in the first sentence instead of adding an Infobox:Punjabiterm. Same goes for pronunciations. Please refer to MOS:LEADLANG and MOS:LEADPRON. If you are new to Misplaced Pages, welcome, but please do review Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Lead section before making formatting changes to an article. Thanks. Priyanka2330 (talk) 21:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Priyanka2330: I'm aware of the lead styles. I would agree normally that transliterations are normally best placed in the intro, but the title page in itself is technically a transliteration. Additionally, only relevant languages are added - rarely additional languages. Hindi is definitely not needed here, not even Urdu is required. Further I find it slightly weird that you're removing the Shahmukhi and replacing it with the Gurmukhi, even though the song was written by a Pakistani. The entire point of the Template:Punjabiterm is so that the Gurmukhi, Shahmukhi and transliteration can be included without making the introduction all cluttered. Arabic terms, Chinese terms and many more languages do the same. See: Gangnam Style.
- Please don't revert my edit again. Punjabi suffices here - Urdu is not needed since the term 'Pasoori' is Punjabi, not Urdu. The record label also labels the song as 'Punjabi'. نعم البدل (talk) 22:16, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Punjabi, Urdu, and Hindi words are all utilized in the songwriting, making all of these languages "relevant" in terms of providing transliterations. I don't disagree with your edit of adding a PunjabiTerm Infobox, that's fine -- I didn't remove it. However, the opening sentence should include transliterations as well as translations that can ideally be referenced. With regards to the TRANSLATION in English: you keep changing angst/conflict (which was referenced) to troubles (without any references) and that is problematic. "Troubles" is not wrong, however, you've been unable to cite it. With regards to TRANSLITERATIONS: I have zero issues with keeping transliterations in Shahmukhi -- my original edit did include the Urdu transliteration which you actually removed.
- You instructed me to not revert your edit again, but you keep removing REFERENCED material from the article which is not okay. That's not how things work on Misplaced Pages. You do not get to unilaterally decide. Misplaced Pages works on consensus, assuming good faith, and being open to compromise. Consistent with Misplaced Pages:Third opinion I will be requesting a third opinion on this.
- You will want to desist from Misplaced Pages:Edit warring or I do have to put this dispute on the noticeboard. Priyanka2330 (talk) 22:51, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Priyanka2330: Not Hindi. None of the stakeholders surrounding the song have said it. Only Urdu and Punjabi, and it seems to be that you don't understand the differences between Urdu and Punjabi, specifically in Pakistan with scripts etc. Urdu ≠ Shahmukhi. Shahmukhi implies Punjabi, but at the same time you've already stated that Punjabi exists, but in Gurmukhi? And I really don't understand why you're putting Gurmukhi in a Pakistani Punjabi song.
- It really isn't absolutely necessary to include a reference, nor is it absolutely necessary to include the transliteration in the introduction. As I said, see Gangnam style. Otherwise you're just overwhelming the page with references and repetitive text.
- I appreciate your suggestion for a third opinion or a mediator. نعم البدل (talk) 02:16, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
June 2022
Stop edit war's and removing native languages names from articles and labeling them same languages as you doing at Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Quetta articles. If you continuously doing this you will be reported.
Also your edit history shows you are continuously engaging in edits war's with other editors, This can be resulted a permanently account blocked for you 103.141.159.231 (talk) 06:50, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- You are not supposed to clutter the page with languages. There is no difference in the Hindko and Urdu spelling, neither is Hindko a "major language" of KPK, and there was a mistake in the Pashto. My history doesn't prove anything - you are the one reverting for no reason. نعم البدل (talk) 09:14, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
First of all correct your information, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa or any other Pakistani province doesn't have any provincial language and second read the article, Hindko it is the second most spoken language in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa after pashto. 103.141.159.231 (talk) 16:35, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- @103.141.159.231: You need to calm down, first of all, and understand that everyone is here to contribute - not just yourself. Yes, but Pashto is the major and most spoken language of KPK, while Hindko is a minor language. I don't mind adding Hindko - but there is literally no difference between the spelling in Urdu or Hindko - it's the same - it's not like Peshawar which has different spellings in different languages, and since it's just cluttering the page - it's better to leave it out. Read WP:LEADLANG. It's not necessary to add every single language - otherwise you'd be adding a LOT of languages, unnecessarily. نعم البدل (talk) 19:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Now with this in mind, please continue the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Notice board for Pakistan-related topics. نعم البدل (talk) 19:44, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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List of highest-grossing Punjabi films
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Misplaced Pages, as you did at List of highest-grossing Punjabi films. SunnyKambojLive (talk) 15:46, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- @SunnyKambojLive:. I beg your pardon? What vandalism was that? You should hope that this matter is concluded on the talk page, that I invited you to, that you've all of sudden brought on this threatening tone. نعم البدل (talk) 23:22, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Threatening? Lol. Kindly check the meaning of vandalism on wikipedia. SunnyKambojLive (talk) 17:08, 5 November 2022 (UTC)