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Happy editing! --Donald Trung (talk) 00:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Image galleries

Assuming that you're the person that keeps inserting image galleries, wouldn't it be also handy to add informational texts accompanying the pictures to give more context for the readers? --Donald Trung (talk) 00:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

April 2021

Information icon Hi Editorfree1011! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Nguyễn dynasty that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Misplaced Pages – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Changing a year, for example, is not a minor edit. — MarkH21 15:23, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

"Feudalism"

I noticed that you added "Feudalism" to most if Imperial Vietnam's infoboxes, at the Vietnamese-language Misplaced Pages one can easily link to "Feudalism (China)" but not here, no non-Communist historians used the term "Feudalism" to describe these societies before 1975. If you want a good way to identify historical negationism in Vietnam I would direct you to "Historiography in the Soviet Union#Theoretical approaches" "Chinese historiography#Marxism", specifically:

  • Primitive-communism
  • Slave society
  • Feudal society
  • Capitalist society
  • Socialist society
  • The world communist society

The official historical view within the People's Republic of China associates each of these stages with a particular era in Chinese history.

Now project this onto Vietnamese history you get:

The same applies to North Korean historiography, notice how common the term "Phong kiến" (封建) appears in Communist Chinese, Communist Vietnamese, and Communist Korean historiographies, Joseon is called "Triều Tiên Phong kiến Vương triều" (朝鮮封建王朝) in North Korea. Meanwhile go over any South Korean history text book and look for the term "Phong kiến", it's simply much rarer.

I understand that the mainstream historiography in Vietnam uses this term, but the mainstream historiography in Iran denials the holocaust and we (thankfully) do not use these biased works. I don't think that it's wise to add a link to the English-language Misplaced Pages's page about "Feudalism" without redefining feudalism as "a system in which any (male) person regardless of birth can attain a high government position through education and competitive examination" which is the opposite of European feudalism. --Donald Trung (talk) 12:20, 16 August 2021 (UTC)


All historians in Vietnam call this period is fedualism. When i made the edition, i never refer to non-communinst or communist aspects. If you feel hatred for the communist, i would like to say that you should stop managing the wiki pages You can check the page Tokugawa shogunate which also depicts the government as the feudalism — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editorfree1011 (talk • contribs)
Japan had a system where hereditary lords ruled over their own fiefs with all classes of society being hereditary, that is the definition of feudalism. Vietnam had a Confucian examination system which is a meritocracy, also these articles aren't even about Communism which didn't exist back then and Misplaced Pages is supposed to be neutral, that means that no ideology should go into making edits other than the ideology of "pure neutrality", adding feudalism simply links to a page that describes a completely different system of government, hence is incorrect. According to Islam all non-Abrahamic faiths are "paganism", should we add "paganism" to the religion of the Ngô Dynasty because Islamic scholars say so? --Donald Trung (talk) 14:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

The term of feudalism are mostly applied for the old government of the east asian countries which is ruled by absolute monarchy. Before 1975, most of the historians from both sides use the term "feudalism" to refer the the govenment before the repbulican era. I always relate to the neutrality and neutral information and sources when posting or re-edit the page without bias. Trinh lords is also the system of hereditary lords take the power of the government back then. What is the differences here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editorfree1011 (talk • contribs)

In Japanese and European society the term refers to an absolute system with little social mobility throughout society, you are right that the Trinh are hereditary lords, but their bureaucracy was meritocratic and most land was owned by petit bourgeoisie. Feudalism is a system, but I agree that most modern sources use the term "feudalism" so I didn't reverse your additions, it is just highly misleading. If the word "feudalism" means absolute monarchy then when not just use absolute monarchy? Vietnamese nobility were influential but they didn't have legislative or executive power like feudal lords do, this is the difference. At least the Vietnamese-language Misplaced Pages has this, specifically at "§ Phương Đông và phương Tây". The English-language Misplaced Pages doesn't have this nuance at the "Feudalism" page as it's "hidden" in several other pages. --Donald Trung (talk) 16:19, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
@Donald Trung: There is an article called Fengjian in English Misplaced Pages. Do you think it might be relevant? Ltn12345 (talk) 23:46, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Flag of the Tây Sơn Dynasty

I saw that you changed it, do you have a source for it? --Donald Trung (talk) 12:41, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Please check that page in Korean and Vietnamese page, you can see it. I did not upload the image of the flag — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editorfree1011 (talk • contribs)
I couldn't find a source there either, I found a number of sources that claim that the Vietnamese had no concept of a national flag before the 1860's, so was it an Imperial standard or a battle flag? I know of one battle flag used by Quang Trung but that one doesn't look like any of the flags ever added to the article. So where did the flag come from? --Donald Trung (talk) 14:49, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Longevity of galleries

In the past I've seen many people remove image galleries and most of your additions tend to just be image galleries, why not add these to Wikimedia Commons? You can easily create image galleries there like "Cabinet of Thành Thái" or "Ministries of the Nguyễn Dynasty" with images that belong together. Usually images on Misplaced Pages exist to illustrate the information but you often add images without also writing about the illustrated subjects. --Donald Trung (talk) 10:10, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

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Lý do?

Đề nghị nêu lý do lùi sửa? Greenknight dv (talk) 18:35, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
Đề nghị nêu lý do sửa? Editorfree1011

Cờ đầu tiên không có cơ sở đáng tin. Greenknight dv (talk) 18:13, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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Disruptive edit

hi so please stop disrupting the List of monarchs of Vietnam i warn you if you continue to do this you will definitely be blocked because all the information in this site are accurate are base on our country historical records so yeah stop being annoying and false editing information here okay? Kimhanh1554 (talk) 17:35, 1 August 2023 (UTC)