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Section sizes
Section size for History of climate change policy and politics (14 sections)
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count
Section
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(Top) 2,865 2,865
History of climate change mitigation policies 200 200
History of activism 64 64
Development of political concern 2,176 6,010
Partisan division 3,834 3,834
Development of international policy 4,670 4,670
History of climate change adaptation policies 99 99
History of climate change denial 79 17,905
Political pressure on scientists in the United States 63 17,718
Actions under the Bush Administration around 2007 7,353 7,353
Politically motivated investigations into historic temperature reconstructions 10,302 10,302
Climatic Research Unit email controversy (2009) 108 108
See also 122 122
References 209 209
Total 32,144 32,144

Merge Global warming controversy into here?

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was no consensus. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:13, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

I propose merging Global warming controversy into here in the hope that future editors will be more likely to slim it down. Chidgk1 (talk) 17:42, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Support. There is no reason for a "...controversy" article since we have a Climate change denial article. The "controversy" is an illusion manufactured by denialists. —RCraig09 (talk) 22:21, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Support Definitely too many pages here. The "denial" page might be a better page to merge this content into? {{u|Gtoffoletto}}22:51, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Mild support and thank you for starting this! The merger won't be easy. Bits of it might be mergeable to History of climate change policy and politics and bits to Climate change denial and bits to somewhere else (politics of climate change?) but a load of it is probably in need of deletion anyhow. The article is 63 kB large and most of it was written in 2007. Most likely hopelessly out of date. Mind you the pageviews are quite high, around 300 currently. And I see there is some content there that provides a good balance. I haven't reviewed it in depth. But I know we have too many similar, overlapping climate change articles... EMsmile (talk) 18:30, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
P.S. after having looked at it a bit more, I still support some merging activities but not necessarily to merge Global warming controversy into here. I don't think we should frame it (the controversy/denial activities) as just a historical issue. A better merge could be with climate change denial. EMsmile (talk) 11:49, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
I agree, movie parts of this to those two and merge to one of them. Newystats (talk) 21:08, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
@Newystats Err - so do you support or oppose my proposal? After this discussion is closed I will be happy to hear your proposal. Chidgk1 (talk) 16:48, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
@EMsmile If this merge is agreed I have no objection to you moving as much as you like from this article to climate change denial. If this merge is not agreed I expect a subsequent proposal by you to merge global warming controversy into climate change denial would succeed. I know these binary merge discussions can be a bit limiting, but on the other hand for very free-ranging discussions like the ones about climate apocalypse we likely have to wait for ages for a non-involved editor to close the discussion. Chidgk1 (talk) 17:09, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
  • There is also this article: Climate change conspiracy theory, another candidate for merging? EMsmile (talk) 09:40, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
  • Oppose If you want to encourage others to slim down the controversy article, the collegial thing to do is request that on the appropriate talk. WP:RSs contain abundant material on History of CC politics that could be added to this article. Id already started updating a few months back and was thinking of doing a through job of making this article reflect the best available WP:RS like I did with the main Politics of CC article back in 2021. That sort of undertaking takes hundreds of hours of research - can't see why anyone would make that sort of effort if the article's value to readers is going to be reduced by such sub optimal merges. FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:04, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Problems with this article

This article is actually quite new and was mainly written by User:Jbeutum. It contains a lot of content that is not specific to the "history of climate change policy and politics", like the section on "controversies". I am not sure if we really need this article or what its scope should be. When does the "history" start and end? It would need to integrate better with Politics of climate change. EMsmile (talk) 10:06, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

I have found it too difficult to delete sourced articles I think we don't need such as List of countries by coal reserves (aha I just thought as a German speaker perhaps you can see how BGR figure out the economics of coal reserves). Rather than starting Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Peak copper I probably should have just renamed it to Copper production or Copper supply and rewrote it as maybe no-one would have cared about that.
Although it can be tedious you might have more success just gradually deleting or moving the duplicate or out of scope stuff. Chidgk1 (talk) 17:40, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Section on domestic action doesn't fit

I have removed the section on "domestic action" because it's just about the US making this article - once again - US centric. We have several other climate change in the US articles already. And if you plan to list dozens of countries here then where do you start and where stop? (there was content about Australia here as well but I moved that yesterday to climate change in Australia. Again, I don't think it makes sense to repeat the info for particular countries here that is in other Misplaced Pages articles already. EMsmile (talk) 19:03, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Domestic action

Domestic policy regarding climate change has historically combined the incorporation of international guidelines and the creation of state-specific goals, legislation and programs to address global warming and environmental anomalies at a state level.

Climate change policy in the USA

Main article: Climate change policy of the United States

From the mid-1980s, the United States attempted to promote climate action at an international level. The USA ratified the Montreal Protocol of 1987 in a 1990 amendment to the Clean Air Act. In 1993, the Clinton Administration commissioned the Climate Change Action Plan, which lacked both funding and parliamentary support and relied on voluntary compliance.

President Trump criticising the Paris Accord in 2017

The Kyoto Protocol was never submitted for ratification in the US. This was because a previous Senate resolution suggested that it would not be ratified. In 2001, President George W. Bush cited economic concerns as a reason for his withdrawal from the Kyoto Protocol. Instead, the administration set an 18% reduction target over the next 10 years.

In 2013, the Obama Administration created the Climate Action Plan, which aimed to cut 32% of carbon emissions from electrical power plants.

In December 2015, the USA became party to the Paris Agreement. President Trump announced his intention to withdraw from the agreement in 2017. This was formalised in 2019, when Trump officially notified the United Nations of the impending US withdrawal. As of 2017, 20 states have pledged to abide with the terms of the Paris Agreement regardless of federal withdrawal.

Climate spending in the Inflation Reduction Act

In 2022, the Biden Administration signed the Inflation Reduction Act, This legislation invests approximately $400 billion to climate-related projects, primarily in the form of tax credits for consumers and private businesses. The majority of these investments is intended to increase the amount of wind and solar energy in the United States grid by providing tax incentives to renewable energy producers, as well as companies that manufacture batteries and wind and solar power components.

References

  1. ^ Pischke, Erin C.; Solomon, Barry D.; Wellstead, Adam M. (2018). "A historical analysis of US climate change policy in the Pan-American context". Journal of Environmental Studies and Sciences. 8 (2): 225–232. doi:10.1007/s13412-018-0476-7. ISSN 2190-6483. S2CID 135362398.
  2. DeAngelis, T (1994). "Clinton's climate change action plan". Environmental Health Perspectives. 102 (5): 448–449. doi:10.1289/ehp.94102448. ISSN 0091-6765. PMC 1567135. PMID 8593846.
  3. "Timeline: The Politics of Climate Change". FRONTLINE. Retrieved 2020-05-20.
  4. "Climate Change". The White House. Retrieved 2020-05-20.
  5. ^ Friedman, Lisa (2019-11-04). "Trump Serves Notice to Quit Paris Climate Agreement". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2020-05-20.
  6. Paris, Francesca; Parlapiano, Alicia; Sanger-Katz, Margot; Washington, Eve (2022-08-13). "A Detailed Picture of What's in the Democrats' Climate and Health Bill". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2023-07-10.
  7. "Democrats compromise climate goals to pass Inflation Reduction Act". Branch Out. 2022-08-12. Retrieved 2023-07-10.

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