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His father, Michael David - a Scots Guards officer - died from wounds received at Dunkirk; his father, Felix, also an officer in the Scots Guards, died

--So who was his father? Michael David or Felix? --Aggiebud 04:43, 21 June 2006 (UTC)


He was one of those hereditary peers expelled from the Upper House by the Blair Labour government. The Lord Sudeley has been active in the Monday Club, a traditional conservative group since the 1960s.

I have followed CJCurrie here. The above is a factual statement. its not a question of whether Mr.Currie likes it. Its a question of whether it is true, or not. Just how does he get away with these comments? Robert I 10:10, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

The first sentence quoted is not strictly NPOV. David | Talk 20:51, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps not, but it struck me as a bit skewed (the word "expelled" seems somewhat contentious). My main objection was to the second sentence, in any event. CJCurrie 20:54, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

That's what I was saying - it's not neutral to refer to someone as being expelled because it implies a punishment and a forceful move. Best to use a neutral phrase such as "He was among the hereditary peers whose membership of the House of Lords ceased in 1999.". David | Talk 12:39, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I misread your initial post, sorry. CJCurrie 21:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Of course the hereditary peerage were expelled from Their House, where they have sat for 1000 years. At least thats the way they and just about everyone else sees it. Robert I 18:33, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I hear that Sudeley is one of those in the group of 100 or so peers who are going to raise a constitutional legal challenge against their expulsions. 86.129.69.37 17:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

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