Talk:Eye color - Misplaced Pages

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 88.230.9.99 (talk) at 08:18, 8 March 2024. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Revision as of 08:18, 8 March 2024 by 88.230.9.99 (talk)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Eye color article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Misplaced Pages? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6Auto-archiving period: 2 months

This page is not a forum for general discussion about Eye color. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about Eye color at the Reference desk.

This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

This article is rated C-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Anatomy: Gross Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anatomy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Anatomy on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AnatomyWikipedia:WikiProject AnatomyTemplate:WikiProject AnatomyAnatomy
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article has been classified as relating to gross anatomy.

Color Mid‑importance

	This article is supported by WikiProject Color, a project that provides a central approach to color-related subjects on Misplaced Pages. Help us improve articles to good and 1.0 standards; visit the wikiproject page for more details.ColorWikipedia:WikiProject ColorTemplate:WikiProject Colorcolor
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Animal anatomy Low‑importance

	This article is part of WikiProject Animal anatomy, an attempt to organise a detailed guide to all topics related to animal anatomy apart from human anatomy. To participate, you can edit the attached article, or contribute further at WikiProject Animal anatomy. This project is an offshoot of WikiProject AnimalsAnimal anatomyWikipedia:WikiProject Animal anatomyTemplate:WikiProject Animal anatomyAnimal anatomy
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Anthropology

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anthropology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Anthropology on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AnthropologyWikipedia:WikiProject AnthropologyTemplate:WikiProject AnthropologyAnthropology
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.

Why are a bunch of animal examples attached to blue eyes?

There are no animal examples attached to other eye colors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.109.2.20 (talk) 06:23, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Why is editing blocked on an article with such poor sourcing?

"DNA studies on ancient human remains confirm that light skin, hair and eyes were present at least tens of thousands of years ago on Neanderthals, who lived in Eurasia for 500,000 years."

No, those sources don't say that -- especially the bit about "500,000 years," but more important (given the subject of the article) nothing "confirms" "light eyes" in Neanderthals, only light skin and red hair. Genes expressing blue eyes in modern homo sapiens were present but less dominant in a couple DNA samples mentioned in one of the articles, but that's it, and the article warns that the study is not widely accepted and that we ahve no way of knowing what the actual effect of thse genes would have been.

Yet there it is: DNA studies on ancient human remains confirm that light skin, hair and eyes were present at least tens of thousands of years ago on Neanderthals, who lived in Eurasia for 500,000 years.

Who besides me will actually READ all five of those sources? It's not unlikely that the original editor who contributed the sentences had racist motives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:cda0:9220:c1ea:12f4:f079:be78 (talk • contribs)

I'm not sure what the argument is about, but the genetics people are stating that Neanderthals gave the homo sapiens light skin and light eyes over a period of time.ie blue and green eyes. Not sure why that would upset anyone or be a controversial idea. https://www.eupedia.com/europe/neanderthal_facts_and_myths.shtml

eye color vs. color vision.

article intersperses discussion of eye color with color vision, causing confusion. 174.65.170.163 (talk) 22:12, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

@174.65.170.163 "Under the same environmental conditions, there may be disagreement over the color of an object between two different people". Also the following paragraph is all about color vision, not eye color. 174.65.170.163 (talk) 22:17, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

there no way 8-10% of world population has blue eyes

world population is over 8,000,000,000

europe population is only 750,000,000 or 9.3% of world population and also western europe has at least 50 million non-europeans

even most indigenous europeans have brown eyes

in reality only about 1-3% of world population has blue eyes Ostrich2Emperor (talk) 15:16, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

There's a common myth all over the internet that 8%-10% of people internationally have blue or gray eyes. 3% have 'true' gray eyes. 1% have 'true' violet eyes. 2% have green eyes. 5% have amber eyes. 5% have hazel eyes and the rest of the world have typical brown/dark brown. Even though many articles online have relayed these stats, this information on the internet is incredibly inaccurate as not only do the percentages not make much sense but it's also impossible to know exactly what percentage of the world has which eye colors.

Countries in North Africa, Middle East and Central Asia can have anywhere between 1%-20% of light eyes amongst their population depending on the country and i'm sure these populations aren't being taken into account when determining worldwide percentages of violet, blue, gray, green, amber, hazel, typical brown or dark brown eyes.

Eye colors like gray, green, amber and hazel are also difficult to determine as they fall in the middle of the spectrum in between deep blue and dark brown eyes so up close gray eyes can be just a light/pale blue. Hazel eyes up close can be green eyes with brown central heterochromia which would make them technically green eyes as the true color is always the outer color and true hazel eyes are just a light golden brown, not green eyes with central heterochromia. green eyes up close can be blue eyes with brown central heterochromia making their true color actually blue. The very specific amount of pigment needed to create amber eyes which are the lightest possible shade of brown would make them much rarer than green eyes in general, definitely not 5% of the world's population.

The origin of these made up international percentages of light eyes which have circulated all over the internet are most likely the result of a North American theory. There are definitely no reliable sources which can prove these percentages. 203.49.228.129 (talk) 07:05, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Europe is not the only place with a high amount of diversity. Hastengeims (talk) 06:56, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Anyway, reliable sources say that, the number between 8 and 10 is correct, it may even be more according to some marginal sources. Hastengeims (talk) 06:59, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Delete "Caucasian," substitute "of European descent."

Caucasian means "from the region surrounding the Caucasus Mountains." The relevant text is actually referring to "white" individuals, i.e. people of European descent. The phenomenon by which "Caucasian" morphed into "white" is based in nineteenth-century thought that privileged the Caucasian as "special" or "exemplary" whites. There is no reason to use the term now as a formal why to refer to whites. By Misplaced Pages's own sourcing, the term is "an obsolete category for race."

https://en.wikipedia.org/Caucasian_race

Why one earth can't I edit the text for eye color? Is it a controversial subject? 2600:1700:5B2C:A090:3111:682E:5CD6:AF1 (talk) 21:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Those violet impressive eyes that God gifted to Türkmen race , Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is one of the best example of these fascinating and wonderful eyes in known history. 88.230.9.99 (talk) 08:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Categories: