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Jim Robinson

Ok, we've been having a bit of a dispute about this one; you may (or may not, since most of it is not about the merits of the article, but about the fact that I tried to merge it) want to visit the to see some history of the debate. Jim is notable only, as far as I can tell, for his website Free Republic, and I feel most of the information on this page (e.g. allegations that money donated to Free Republic was used improperly) really belongs on that page. As we have been unable to discuss this effectively up to this point, I'm putting it on VfD, so that a) we can get more eyes looking at it, and b) perhaps we can have a real discussion about the merits of the article, rather than the politics surrounding my abortive attempt at merging it.

• • • Discussion not relevant to this article has been moved to the talk page
      • Thanks. --Jonathan Christensen 14:27, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect. -Sean Curtin 23:20, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect with Free Republic. The site is notable, he is only notable because of the site. The controversy stuff is interesting, but is about the site as much as the man. --bainer 06:04, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Keep - no on merge and redirect. As I noted on Talk:Jim_Robinson where this discussion should be taking place per wikipedia policy, there is extensive precedent for having two different articles for well known political website owners and their websites/blogs etc. Among the many examples are:

• The Daily Kos blog and owner Markos Moulitsas Zúniga
• The Drudge Report and owner Matt Drudge
• The Little Green Footballs blog and owner Charles Johnson
• Power Line (blog) and its owners John_H._Hinderaker and Scott_W._Johnson

• So long as this is done on other similar websites no valid reason exists to treat this one any differently. Rangerdude 17:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • NB The above two bullet points are one vote by Rangerdude, just in case it's not entirely clear. --Jonathan Christensen 14:27, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. In keeping with the guidelines at the top of WP:VFD, I'd also like to point out that User:Rangerdude is the author of the article in question. --Jonathan Christensen 16:09, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment In keeping with the wikipedia VFD Policy, I'd also like to point out that a clear majority consensus to keep this article already existed on the discussion page talk:Jim Robinson at the time this VfD process was initiated (4 editors to 2), the main dissenting voice being the individual who both sought the original merge and initiated this VfD process. The second dissenting editor concurred with his position, though he/she also recognized it was not the majority position. Rangerdude 17:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • And I'd like to point out that this is a lie, as there were at most three people (accounts) in favor of keeping the article: Rangerdude, Wakeforest (a puppet) and ObsidianOrder, who came from the RfC page, posted one brief comment, and has never come back. There were two obviously in favor of merging: myself and Katefan0. However, we can continue discussion on this matter at the corresponding point on the talk page, as this is not very relevent to the article anymore. Thanks for telling the truth in the future, anyway, Rangerdude! --Jonathan Christensen 05:39, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect. This man is only notable for the Website he runs; I therefore see no reason for there to be two separate articles. As to Daily Kos et al, I feel that he and his Website are not as familiar to most folks as the others. Although, for that matter, I'm not entirely sure that their webmasters need their own article either. As to the VfD, it's true that merging is not usually a reason to list on VfD, but considering that the redirecter and the person who keeps reverting the redirects have been unable to come to an agreement, it is appropriate, I think, to put the matter to the general populace. · Katefan0 19:41, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Founder of Free Republic makes him notable enough in my book. That is where the discrepancies in the documents in the Sixty Minutes II story on George W. Bush's alleged problems with the Texas National Guard. Capitalistroadster 02:02, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Merge & redir as above. Radiant_* 13:42, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Free Republic. --Calton | Talk 02:24, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)