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New article bot

Thanks for your new article bot; it's made the maintenance of the New Zealand new articles list much more efficient, and I manage to make some small improvement to almost every article on the list.

I've noticed a couple of time that when I remove an article which isn't NZ-related, it comes back again the next time the bot updates the list. For example, World Ship Society, which I removed in this edit, was readded here. The times I've noticed it happen have been when I've emptied the list completely. I entirely understand that some articles will be miscategorised; I have no problem with that. Is there a method to tag articles so the bot knows someone has considered them but not added them to the suggested list? For example, I could strike them out on the list.-gadfium 07:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

New article bot for cricket articles?

Hello Alex,

Your new article bot looks really useful. But I notice all the topics at the moment are geographical. I assume it can handle other types of topics? -- I'm thinking of cricket, specifically.

I suppose it would sometimes have to put an article in two categories. For example, a New Zealand cricketer would go in New Zealand and cricket.

Anyway, we have an active cricket WikiProject, who I'm sure would be keen to test your bot if you wanted to extend it to cricket articles.

Thanks,

Stephen Turner (Talk) 11:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Mardavich

this fine young gentleman is back in the scene, harassing another editor with 3RR. We took your suggestions and did precisely as you asked, avoiding the gentleman and went back to the article. Apparently, he was not pleased with your decision yesterday, and has stalked Bignole's edits, again misinterpreting Wiki policy. I was trying to avoid it, but I am beginning to think that an AN/I might be the only effective tool that helps Mardavich see the light. This person twisiting the sytem is simply not good Misplaced Pages contributor material. Can we ban a a user for wiki-stalking and empty complaints?Arcayne 12:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:College football

I'd like to add Misplaced Pages:WikiProject College football to your bot. We could have hundreds of new articles created a day and never know it. We have several templates and lists that can be used to help find or figure out what articles we should be notified for. Please let me know what I need to do to get our project onto your bot. Thanks. --MECU≈talk 12:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? was updated. On 13 March, 2007, a fact from the article Devichye Pole, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Carabinieri 13:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Personal attacks

User:Arcayne previously called me "devious" which you called a "mild attack", now he's calling me a "pariah" and "unethical". How long am I suppose to tolerate this verbal abuse and character assassination? --Mardavich 13:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

The fairly apt descriptions have been entered as part of the response to yet another spurious attack on User:Bignole, User:Erikster, User:ThuranX and myself here. None of these descriptors are being used in open articles or Discussion pages, but are instead used exclusivley on User-Talk pages. He has attempted to work the system and filed reprisal 3RR attacks against two editors in the 300 (film) article, filed and AN/I complaint against one (while naming three others). You will recall that you asked us to focus on the article and not on each other. Mardavich chose instead to belittle your opinion and continue harassing us with accusation of OWN, meat-puppetry and virtually any Wiki-violation he can think of.

We don't like the guy, and I consider him a creep and a stalker who makes me personally uncomfortable. He needs to take a very, very long vacation from Misplaced Pages. After his complete nonsense and wasting of all of our time, we can be hardly be faulted for disliking this "gentleman".Arcayne 13:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Now I am being called "a creep" right here. Alex, is this appropriate? --Mardavich 13:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Request bot for Saints project

I'm not sure if your bot can work with such articles, but, if it can, we would welcome being added to your list at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Saints. Thank you. John Carter 14:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

• We have to compile the rules. E.g. simply saint should be heavily inhibited from like of Saint Petersburg. Give me a few days to think it over Alex Bakharev 11:04, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Transcription issues

Hi Alex! I was given your name by User:Ghirlandajo, after we discussed some inadverdent article moves (regarding Russian skiers) by a now blocked user. The false moves (from correct English transcriptions to incorrect Norwegian(!) ones) have gone unnoticed for quite some time. Thus the affected articles have been updated a few times since then, so it also involves quite a bit of manual updating.

In short, these are the articles I suspect should be moved (in most cases back to their original names).

• Julija Tchepalova - Yuliya Tchepalova
• Sergej Shiriaev - ?
• Nikolay Zimjatov - Nikolay Zimyatov
• Svetlana Nagejkina - Svetlana Nageykina
• Mikhail Devjatiarov - Mikhail Devyatyarov
• Ljubov Egorova - Lyubov Yegorova
• Nina Gavriljuk - Nina Gavrilyuk
• Alexander Savjalov - Alexander Zavyalov
• Sergej Saveljev - Sergey Savelyev

I suspect there are a few more. You can have a quick glance at the categories Category:Russian cross-country skiers and Category:Soviet cross-country skiers.

If you, as an administrator, could make the needed article moves, I could undertake updating the articles themselves (and associated links).

Best regards Ståle Johnsen Guaca 15:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Alex! I was asked to fix those same entries, and completed Category:Russian cross-country skiers through Svetlana Nageykina. If you have time to finish the rest, go right ahead, otherwise I'll finish the remaining entries later this week. Gotta go now! Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Ezhiki, if you have time - please do it. Otherwise I will do this weekend Alex Bakharev 10:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it took a lot longer than I anticipated, but both categories are now done.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!!!! Alex Bakharev 20:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

New articles bot support

Another request for support from your "new articles" bot: can you have it find new Caribbean-related articles for WikiProject Caribbean? Thanks, Jwillbur 16:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot Russia

Hi, Alex! Just wanted to bring your attention to the fact that the bot is finding and posting my little crappy dab pages again (e.g., Zalesovo or Talmenka). I think that started after the point system went into effect. Could you filter them out again, please? I'll probably be creating dozens more in the next few weeks; no reason to pollute the announcement board with those. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC) P.S. Congrats on publicity! :))—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Evaluation of the good article search

Hi Alex,

In order to try to help improve your bot's "good article" search I've looked through the articles created in the six-hour period on March 11 between 18:00 and 00:00.

During this period the bot found sixteen good articles. Of these all except Controversies within libertarianism (marked as {{weasel}}), Allsvenskan 2006 (consists almost exclusively of tables), VoiceWeb (not long enough if you don't count the tables), and List of World Aquatics Championships medalists in swimming (women) (it is generally almost impossible to get DYK hooks out of lists) are more or less suitable for DYK. The history of football team articles aren't particularly useful either since they're not really new content since they were all split out of other articles, but I guess there's not really a way to get the bot to recognize such creations.

Perhaps you could have the bot also disregard articles with a weasel tag as well as articles, whose titles begin with "List of...". If that's possible, it would also be benificial if the bot would subtract the size of templates and tables in a particular from the total article size but I realize that could be really difficult.

Looking through the new articles page I found the following articles, which are suitable for DYK, but were not recognized by the bot because their reference sections had unusual titles: Revolutionary Communist Party of Canada, Operation Dollar Bill, Chess Informant, Robert Clark Corrente, Luana Reyes, Horse transports in the Middle Ages, Henry E. Eccles, and Sherry!.

Perhaps you could add those section headings to the list of titles the bot recognizes as reference sections.

The bot also disregarded the following articles: Stephen Hart (Primeval), Liénard–Wiechert potential, and Requiem (Ockeghem). I have no idea why. They all look alright, maybe you can figure out how you could get the bot to include similar articles in the future.

Thanks again for help,

-- Carabinieri 18:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you could also have the bot check if an article is already linked from T:TDYK and exclude any that are. That way articles that have already been suggested for DYK won't appear in the list. If that isn't much trouble, that is... I have no idea.-- Carabinieri 22:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Yet another new article bot request

This time on behalf of WikiProject Football, where our new article list covers only a fraction of the football (soccer) related articles created. Thanks. Oldelpaso 18:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

The next new article bot request

Hi, congrats on the great idea and its implementation! Could you add Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Bulgaria#New articles to the bot? Thanks! Todor→Bozhinov 20:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome

Seems suspicious that you are keeping tabs on what's written on Biophys' page, considering there are so many users and so few admins. Why would you be keeping a watch on him anyways? CPTGbr 21:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Usually it considered a grave insult to allege something of that sort but as said Grigory Oster

Дразниться лучше из окна,

С восьмого этажа.

Из танка тоже хорошо,

Когда крепка броня.

Но если хочешь довести

Людей до горьких слез,

Их безопаснее всего

По радио дразнить.

I guess you can have a courage safely libel using internet using without a danger to get a spat in your face. Anyway you may notice that I am one of the maintainers of P:RUS/NEW the list of the new Russia-related articles and even wrote a bot to make maintaining of such articles easier. I am trying to read, fix and NPOV all the new articles appeared there. Also both User:Biophys and User:Vlad fedorov have a habit of knocking to my talk page every few days asking to judge their feud. I am really sorry that I was busy and was not able to spend enough time to really help them, but I am trying. After this accusing me on stalking them is a sort of gross.

I am working under my real name, I guess googling could somehow help to trace my biography, if interested. Also I used to be active in lj under the nick zanuda, in the forum of www.polit.ru under nicks roo and zanuda, in usenet under some bakharev related nicks. You can check if you want. Alex Bakharev 23:03, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Just in order to be objective CPTGbr, such edits like this are hardly helpful in advancing your personal opinion. You couldn't understand that Misplaced Pages is Encyclopedia, and Encyclopedia is a scientifical publication, where you required to source each sentence and each word. Rules of Misplaced Pages forbid writing here your personal (original) research - your personal opinion of FSB as a secret police. You could look at the article on Freedom House and my dispute here to understand that I have agreed that we here couldn't even publish information from the internet, that Freedom House is an organization sponcoring terrorism, although this is a site which is operated by Cuban Government and statements there are generally verfied by other sources, and as such are reliable and verifiable. I wasn't able to put them in the article because Cuban Government had done its website on Wiki engine!!! Consider this. I have cited you the respective pages from Encarta and Britannica on FSB and no one names FSB as a secret police. Would you complain on Encarta and Britannica? Are their editors working for FSB then? Vlad fedorov 05:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot and Africa-related articles

Hi Alex. I've noticed that the bot you are operating AlexNewArtBot is adding newly created articles inaccurately to Misplaced Pages:Africa-related regional notice board/New articles. Could you please try to fix that. Cheers -- FayssalF - 12:00, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

SIMUN

Hi again Alex,

I am still grateful for your help on restoring my PTS pages and all that you did. Now you see I am in a little bit of mess with a more notable subject that I created. Please see User_talk:Jeffrey_O._Gustafson#SIMUN which is a conversation between me and an admin who deleted the article. Can you help me to find an legitimate way of restoring the article?? SIMUN would really be a good article for Misplaced Pages, but I have made some mistakes and gone into confusion a little bit. It would be great if you can help!! --Jingshen 12:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

User:67.180.67.179

He is at it again, ingnoring the suggestions you made on his talk page.

• diff on Stanisław Saks

• diff on Mark Kac

You asked me to let you know if the behavior continues. Balcer 13:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

FSB troll squads a new masterpiece by Biophys

Have a look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/Internet_troll_squads. Vlad fedorov 05:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

New Magic-related articles

Circusandmagicfan (talk · contribs) is trying to revive the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Magic I started a long time ago. I think having a new article feed for articles related to magic and magicians would help. Could you talk to him/her and see if your bot can feed our project too? - Mgm| 10:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot

Oh, I didn't expect the nationalist war to begin so soon. Someone deletes articles from AlbaniaSearchResult as "unrelated" just because they are about FYROM municipalities, despite their considerable Albanian population. Have there been some similar problems with ArmeniaSearchResult or AzerbaijanSearchResult? What can be done with this? Colchicum 13:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Mattawan Little League Softball Girls

Hello Alex, I'm Hurricane06 and I wish to have an answer on what is wrong with my article? I do have an idea on why it is going to be deleted but I want you to know that I would expand my article if it wasn't for musical rehearsal every night and also my homework on top of that. I am looking for more things to add to my article but please give me more time. I will greatly appreciate it! Also note that I am not mad at anyone about this. It is your job to make sure Misplaced Pages is great for all of us, but I am just frustrated about the lack of time that I had. Contact me on my webpage User:Hurricane06.

Mattawan Natives

In the Mattawan Natives section, I see that there is a person who put something very disgusting in my opinion and also is possibly considered vandalism. Here is the link to Mattawan where I found it. I think the name is the last one on the list. The description says that this person is a straight up BA and has a hott girlfriend. Please check it out. Hurricane06 00:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

DYK

On 15 March, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lupeni Strike of 1929, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Спасибо --BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Roger L. Fitzsimonds

The google search actually has 840 results, NOT 1-10.Miaers 01:20, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• OK, keep the article then Alex Bakharev 02:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Question about your Bot

I've been watching your bot (it's very interesting to me), and I noticed the bad articles page is getting increasingly longer with many red links. Is there any cleaning mechanism in place to remove those redlinks? Good job though :-) Always, ^demon 02:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• It is a good suggestion. As it is now, it does not cleans its search results, I can not see universal behavior for the different feeds yet. We have to have just manually prune it once at a time as I did just now.

Alex

AlexNewArtBot

Hi Alex! Would it be possible to include France-related articles in your bot assisted search? The articles would then be covered by WP:FR. Thanks in advance, STTW (talk) 09:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a ton for adding bot search to WP:FR. Some new articles listed are not actually France related. Is it possible manually to edit the list ie. remove the article not belonging to WP:FR? Or somehow give a feedback to the bot to improve its search process? Or am I asking too much :-) STTW (talk) 18:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

mattawan Little League Softball Girls

Thanks Alex. Now I understand how to work here at Misplaced Pages. I have decided that you can delete it. I'll work on it after the musical is over, which is about in another month. I will re-create it when I get some reliable sources. Hurricane06 00:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

Mattawan Michigan

OK, you took it off. But I thought that only administrators can do that stuff. Yes i know that everyone can edit but i thought that only administrators can take things off, espically if it's vandalism. Hurricane06 00:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

One other Thing From Hurricane06

I heard that some people are nominated for administrators and that some administrators can coach other people to at least become better or even become an administrator themselves. If you could find the time to coach and help me that would be great. If not, tell me how to get a coach or recommend someone else to me. Hurricane06 00:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

Explination

Can you explain to me the 3RRR rule or whatever it is called Hurricane06 13:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

George Albu, 1st Baronet

Hi Alex, may I ask for your help in moving this article which I wrote to George Albu from where it was moved. Many thanks Paul venter 16:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• Done. I guess you could do it yourself. No admin tools were necessary Alex Bakharev 16:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Nope - afraid it doesn't work....could you have another look? Paul venter 16:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I done it, this time Alex Bakharev 23:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Definitely!! Thanks a mill! Paul venter 05:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Icar

Alex, I'm having a hard time with this person, who has, just today, left the following inflammatory messages about me: , . In the past weeks, he has been In fact, an impressive number of his contributions are attacks aimed at me on various talk pages, or untrue and inflammatory claims made about me (all of his many complaints about stalking were dismissed - some because they were initiated by a sockpuppet of the infamous Bonaparte, others were simply not answered to because they repeated the lies). Most of his other contributions are disruptive edits in various articles. He was banned once for posting this type of messages, and recently received this reply to persistent claims he made about me "conspiring" with Khoikhoi - see this (note that he was again at it a quarter of an hour after being notified). Can you please look into it? It is simple, if noisy, trolling, and getting quite tiresome. Dahn 21:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

• I gave him a warning. On the other hand he looks like a newbee, try not to byte him Alex Bakharev 00:50, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Your bot feature suggestion

Hi Alex, I've tried your new bot and its seems to be great for me. Could we add some RSS functionality to it? Could we output it in RSS format? BTW, if it is possible in Misplaced Pages to output watchlist to RSS? Vlad fedorov 15:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

• It looks like RSS syndication is already supported (see Misplaced Pages:Syndication), so all you have to do is just syndicate the bot's articles. I have never tried it myself, though Alex Bakharev 00:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

No, Misplaced Pages syndication feature seems to support:

a) History of every page in Misplaced Pages;

b) New pages.

Support of syndication for your bot, would mean that I would be capable to watch for these new articles appearing in my RSS feed in real time without visiting webpage in Misplaced Pages (sometimes there are lags). Currently I am unable to do it. http://www.blinkbits.com/wikifeeds.php is of no help, since it links only to first page, not sub-page.Vlad fedorov 04:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Setting up a new feed

Alex, please check whether I've done well a new feed on law articles. How often does your bot scan Misplaced Pages? Vlad fedorov 10:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

• Vlad, I have fixed rules a little bit. Let's see if it would make sense. I run the bot every night (my time). I have started it just now, it would run for 6..10 hours Alex Bakharev 13:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Эххххх... See below - there is something wrong with bot. He is creating empty pages. See his contribs http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/AlexNewArtBot. Vlad fedorov 15:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Your bot is on AIV

Wanted to let you know about - see the approval page. ST47Talk 14:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I've just blocked it. Good luck bug squishing. --  Netsnipe  ►  14:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Funny article created by the AlexNewArtBot

The bot created articles titled (among other things)

• "Darth" Chef
• Glenn Heights Park & Ride
• Mr. Country & Western Music

(yep, with HTML entities and all) with only db-empty. There may be more. It may not be exactly be what the bot was supposed to be creating. =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 15:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Problems

Alex, could you please pay attention to the Saint Petersburg March of the Discontented? Something is going on there, which is a pity, as the article was more or less good after it had been reviewed by numerous users during its nomination for DYK, but now I'd prefer not to interfere for obvious reasons. Colchicum 18:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I didn't know that it is this user who has taken this shot: . Colchicum 19:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

And this: ]. What a great photographer! Colchicum 19:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, anyway, let it be there. It looks incredibly funny. Colchicum 19:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I belive virtual account User:GoWest8, which was conviniently created on March 6th, 14:28 and who uploaded other images is their creator??? Vlad fedorov 19:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok I deleted obviously false information about licensing. But if I would upload these images to Wiki Commons, then I could repost them like other photos in the article? Because Commons haven't adopted the same licensing policy which is currently in Misplaced Pages? If we are to comply with these requirements then we virtually should delete every image and photo. I am pretty much sure that the rest photos in the article Saint Petersburg March of the Discontented are as unlicensed as those photos introduced by me. Vlad fedorov 19:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Ohh Alex, I just has found out that it was you who added photo of Marina Tsygankova to this article, please help me to add appropriately my images to the article. I have plenty of them:

• http://smolyak.livejournal.com/447942.html
• http://recepter.livejournal.com/412654.html?thread=4900334#t4900334
• http://www.idiot.ru/images/NR5-LPS-1_39-25m--18_resize.jpg
• http://pics.livejournal.com/blogik/pic/0007ar30
• http://users.livejournal.com/_sergiooo_/34447.html
• http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1957018&ref=author

Vlad fedorov 19:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Now Vlad adds screenshots of unrelated protests with some blurred text (in Belarus?). Everybody who has ever been to Saint Petersburg can realize it. Channel 5 has very different logo. Colchicum 20:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Could you help me find this photo again? I forgot my Google search terms?Vlad fedorov 04:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• Vlad, sorry, for been dense, but I have not got your question. The creator of the "Protestors beat a female OMON trooper" picture is Arseny Smolyak . This is in the first reference in your list. I think he could give the permissions if we ask him nicely. I think he shares Vlad's POV so it is better if Vlad would ask him. Commons has much stricter copyright policy than En-Wiki and pictures from there can be used in any language project (e.g Ru-wiki). Thus, if you have an unquestinable Free (as a speech) photo then it is better to upload to commons. If we might have to claim the "fair use" clause of the American copyright law it is better to upload it here. For the TV-screenshots there is a fair use {{Tv-screenshot}}. It is a "fair use" tag so we have to prove that it provides enough value to be bothered with the possible copyright problems. Read WP:FU and WP:FUC for the details of the policies (not very poular and hotly debated) Alex Bakharev 05:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I doubt we could prove that this photo contributes significantly to the article. I guess Saddam hunging and Saddam corpse photos could meet democratic US regulations of Fair Use better than our photo in question. Anyway, as far as I see, Misplaced Pages enforces just US laws, although prohibition of legal threat is a violation of the First Amendment (Free speech) and of the Seventh Amendment (right to sue at common law) of US Constitution and violation of the Convenant on Poltical and Civil rights of 1968 (the major human rights document). So the best way is to contact Smolyak.Vlad fedorov 06:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• I guess we can contact Smolyak and ask for permissions to put this photo (might be of a lower resolution) on wiki with some copyleft tags. Many photo freelancers are happy to put a lowresolution pic on wiki. Copyleft license still requires references for the original author, low resolution is usually unsuitable for the paper publication, so in effect it is a free ad for the freelancer, who usually need it. As you want this photo, can you contact the guy? BTW somewhere in LJ there was a story about this photograph, it is very selective in time and cropped-out in space, the full photo or the picture of the same place in a few seconds looks quite differently Alex Bakharev 00:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Alex, I'm sorry that I have to ask you again, but Vlad is just spoiling the article. He deletes all the neutral information he feels uncomfortable with and doesn't tolerate any attempts to counter his edits. E.g. Gulyayev is not relevant according to him (despite being chairman of the organizing committee), preceding march with the same title and the same organizers in December 2006 in Moscow is also not relevant, it looks like everything that doesn't represent protesters as hooligans is not relevant. Besides, from what he says it becomes evident that he hasn't even read the External Links section, as he deletes perfectly supported material as unsupported, and his knowledge of the event is too limited and inaccurate (to the extent he has mixed up a picture of some unrelated protest in another former Soviet republic with this event) for him to be a major contributor. Note that previously this article had been contributed to by many different editors and had been based on some consensus. What we have now is pure Vlad's POV-pushing that is very difficult for other contributors to stop. Three edit history pages in one day is too much. Colchicum 14:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Please do not distort my posts by your falsehoods and uncivil attacks. That won't add to your authority here. I just wrote on the talk page here that we may delete the photo of Gulayev with megaphone, because it doesn't contributes significantly to the article. It bears no informational sense. There are numbers of much more interesting photos. As to POV, Colchicum, please look at the mirror. You have wrote that police blocked the car traffic, although it was protestors. You have put opinion of News.ru in the introductory paragraph as a fact, although it was just an opinion of News.ru. You left from the article facts that protestors were coming from Moscow and other cities, protestors broke through three police cordons violently (!!!). Kasyanov and Kasparov heroicly left the March before polcie dispersed it. Vlad fedorov 17:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Alex, please see how Colchicum pushes his POV here. Vlad fedorov 18:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

1) The article was contributed by many editors with very different attitudes towards the subject (including e.g. User:ellol) and was subject to silent attention of many Wikipedians after its nomination for DYK, and some consensus was reached. I have not created the page, and my edits were mostly technical (rearranging sections, changing transliteration, correcting grammar, providing sources etc.). Personally I prefer not to use newsru as a source, but there are many others below in the External Links section. So far Vlad has been the only Winkipedian that feels necessary to rewrite the article completely, and I don't think he is right.

Your problem. Colchicum, is that I never completely rewrittent the article. You lies and accusations are laughable. People could use history of the article in order to check this. You lies do not add to your credibility. As also false accusations of me wikistalking you. You just behave uncivil and make personal attacks on me. Instead of discussing the article you discuss me. Moreover, user Gowest2 is becoming more active as I see.Vlad fedorov 04:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

2) How is it possible at all to be engaged in POV-pushing on talk pages? It is perfectly natural and in accord with Misplaced Pages rules to ask for assistance, especially as I am not discussing Vlad, I am discussing the content of the article. I would do the same thing even if Vlad had been a fully automated bot, so nothing personal here. I don't think that Alex is interested in the discussion of personal issues. Alex' talk page has already become too lenghty, and BTW it is worth archiving it. Colchicum 21:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

How is it possible to completly rewrite the article by rearranging some weasel words WP:WEASEL and eliminating unsupported by references information and adding uncovered facts to the article? You want to create your right version of the article WP:WRONG and block it from editing?Vlad fedorov 04:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it is an excellent idea to involve a neutral administrator to look in the matter. Thanks, Colchicum. I do not remember much interaction with Redvers (except him rightly blocking my bot for misbehaving), but he is certainly not Pro-Putin or Anti-Putin, pro- or anti- Russian etc (I guess I know all prolific users who somehow contributed to Russia-related articles). Alex Bakharev 22:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. But what about virtual GoWest8 who is getting nasty?Vlad fedorov 04:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot

By the way, why the new feeds have disappeared from the list on the bot main page? The last one is now #22 Karnataka. Edit history shows nothing, so what is this? Colchicum 15:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• I do not know, it shows all the feeds for me. Might be the browser or a wikimedia slave server showing very old cache Alex Bakharev 20:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

User:AlexNewArtBot suggestion

It would be convenient that the' bot will add the category Category:Newpage bot search results to search result page in the way I've done it in Russia result and especially "orphaned" Plant result. `'mikka 19:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Please see queries on talk COI/N about bot syntax. — Athænara ✉ 17:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

regexp

Could you please explain me which of the following 7 symbols

. , { } _ : - 

should be combined with \ to be interpreded literally in the bot rules? Colchicum 00:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Good question. According to my Perl help the following {}()^$.|*+?\ must be preceded by \ to be taken literally. On the other hand all the non-word characters has the same meaning when preceded by the \ . Thus e.g. \: is absolutely equivalent to just : and so the slash does no harm.

If you are talking specifically about , I was trying to find the source of error in France rules, that forced the bot to stop processing of the French articles and all the rules bellow (I guess you noticed that the feeds were not updated for a couple of days). Eventually I found it was /\Port(-|\s)Royal/ rule (instead of /\WPort..). \Po was assumed to be equivalent to \P{o} something like \P{cyrillic}. Since there is no unicode property named o and the rule caused crash. Now I have put much better error diagnostic, so I hope it would be no problem in the future.

BTW I realised, the way the bot written there is no way to insert the / symbol to the rules. Lets see it as a limitation for the moment, I am to lazy to fix it. Alex Bakharev 01:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

As to /, its numerical unicode value might be helpful, no? But anyway, it will hardly be ever needed. Colchicum 01:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Agree on both counts Alex Bakharev 02:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Civility

This edit is unhelpful and borders with personal attack. I have reverted it. Please do not do it again. Alex Bakharev 01:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm really concerned with this admin's behavior, and would love to hear from him that he's not proud of his attitude. Would you help me to ask him for such compromise without the risk of sounding offensive? --Abu badali 01:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Would you help me on this matter? --Abu badali 03:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I do not up to speed with the matter so far. If you have a conflict with Alikvar, I would recommend to use some WP:DR e.g start a WP:RFC. If you want me to mediate the conflict, then you have to explain your grievances (otherwise I do not know whether I could accept to be a mediator or not) and Alikvar has to agree to my mediation Alex Bakharev 03:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not a "conflict". I just can't feel comfortable knowing there's a user with admin privileges out there that reacts to criticism from fellow admins ( ) by calling it "worthless crap" and asking members of the community to "f* you very much" .

I just want to hear from him that he understand his behavior needs to be changed and that he plans to do that. That was not the first time this used asked fellow Wikipedians to f* themselves, and I believe he's here for quite a long time to understand this is not acceptable behavior.

So, how should I ask him for this compromise without sounding offensive? --Abu badali 14:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Alex Bakharev, are you still interested in intervene in this matter? --Abu badali 13:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Mediation

Abu, I am happy to mediate any disputes on wiki since I do not like disputes. There are two things that may be needed:

• You have to explain to me your vision of the conflict
  • If I have a conflict of interests or a strong preconceived opinion of the matter I will recuse, otherwise I am happy
• I have to ask Alikvar whether he wants my mediation. If he agree I am happy to start the work Alex Bakharev 10:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

As I told you, I don't fully classify this issue as an ongoing dispute. But anyway, a "mediation" could still be useful in this case.

I just would like to hear from this admin that he admits his behavior was wrong, and that he plans to do his best not to repeat it. It would become a dispute if he denies doing so. Would you take a part on this? --Abu badali 17:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Still interested? --Abu badali 23:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, quite a number of people seem to comment on this block already. So I guess he has noted this and would change his attitude to WP:BLP. If you have problems with him having the admin tools the correct place is WP:RFAR. I do not see any value with me adding another "me too" to his talk page. Alex Bakharev 01:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Alex Bakharev, his attitude to WP:BLP is not what concerns me. As I have explained, what concerns me is how he reacted to criticism. His reaction to the comments on his blocks was not to "change his attitude", but instead, it was to classify the comments as "worthless crap" and ask fellow Wikipedians to go f*ck themselves. Please, understand that this is what bothers me the most. One thing is an admin with an imperfect understanding of WP:BLP or WP:BLOCK. A completely different matter is an admin that ignores Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks.

So, would you help me in rewriting my message to him in a way that a native English speaker wouldn't consider offensive? I would highly appreciate your help, but I also understand you may have valid reasons to prefer not to do so. --Abu badali 19:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

your support for Chris Lawson

Are you sure you want to support this guy? Look at his source/quote for making the Red Baron jewish. read the discussion page on it. See the opposers views on his request page. Look at the diffs. It scares me. JohnHistory 08:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)JohnHistory

• http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Manfred_von_Richthofen
• http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Clawson

Well, the enthusiasm over this dispute is indeed scary but this is only one edit war over a history of 5K+ contributions. No other arguments. Does not fly with me Alex Bakharev 11:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

SIMUN is getting deleted

Hi alex what's your pov on this? I think the boundary that they are setting for notability is too high. Since you helped me before I really want to know what you think. Is there room for improvement or is it just doomed to be deleted? --Jingshen 14:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Dissenters' March

Please note my opinion, thanks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Saint_Petersburg_March_of_the_Discontented#User_Vlad_fedorov_regularly_vandalize_this_page GoWest8 19:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

User Vlad fedorov again reverted that page without any explanations. Should I request for Arbitration Committee? GoWest8 13:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, what about that revert being made by GoWest8

diff. He continues to revert without discussion. Please take action like in my case.Vlad fedorov 04:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Stop write a bullshit. I reverted that page with explanations of all my actions (look for the previous revisions). GoWest8 13:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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