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Franchising Information

To Coren: RE: change to LIST OF FRANCHISES Coren I believe you edited the page called 'list of franchises' in which I had posted information linking (external links) to articles on franchising and links to lists of franchises. The intent of the information was to provide users with general information on franchises in world (many less known than the normal companies) and articles on franchising. I think the links were misunderstood since they linked to a commercial site but they were meant to be educational. Can you re-post them or let me know when I can without them being taken away? Thanks!--64.140.196.109 15:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Moved from my user page to here

Message to Coren: from the theheavyd With regards to Jean Machine it was not intended to be a commercial page. I previously worked for the company and noticed stores like Off the Wall, Urban Behavior, Bluenotes all had their own pages so I began constructing one for Jean Machine. It did not have a lot of information but I was slowly building on it. I would appreciate you putting my work back up. Thanks Darren This unsigned comment was left on my user page by Theheavyd at 2007-06-25 16:13:54

To whom It May Concern

Hello, i believe that your deletion of my article (Beau Slatter) was uncalled for. even though i happen to know this person, he is a very good musician and has a lot of talent. so why can I not make a page about what he does. it isn't an advertisement for his band. it is a documentation on the person in question. The preceeding unsigned message was left by User:Zac sakrewsk at 04:58, 05 July 2007 (UTC)

He may well be talented and one of the best musicians of the world, but until he has notability, he will not be a suitable topic for inclusion in an encyclopedia. This is no reflection on him, but simply on what is needed for an article. — Coren  04:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

NPOV on PTDI

The articles (PTDA, and PTDI) were proposed to be informative only. They could even be considered for a specialized subject tag in my opinion. It is important first that a consensus form about the neutral point of view. The article is not proposed as an endorsement. It would be of an academic interest if other non-profit organizations of this type around the world could be listed by Misplaced Pages. Thanks for the note. StationNT5Bmedia 05:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

James Nichols

Thank you for reviewing my article on James Nichols (murder suspect). Unfortunately you marked it for deletion before I had a chance to fill it with good content. It was just minutes away, but you beat me. Anyway, check it out again, and let me know if you think it should stand. Ximota 06:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

single thought

I was about to write to you to the same effect. I worded it as junk is junk. --I think of myself as an advocate: I will say what can be said, and if I have time find what can be found, and the group can judge if its enough. But as you can see I do not comment on 90% of the items at AfD.

While I'm here, I too had doubts about the Nichols article above, and almost speedied it as BLP. DGG 16:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Given my speedy, your close was proper, but it is usually expressed as Speedy delete for BLP, not as "Moot." But since you mentioned it, I checked Twyana Davis again. It discusses her conviction for a particularly obnoxious crime--all based on a video of the trial. However, since other sources were asserted but not given, I myself am not sure I did right, so I've just told the author a properly sourced article might be able to stand. Given that we're opposites, we can correct each other DGG 16:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

As for two people to delete, I fundamentally agree with you but I came to realize--even before I became an admin--that there are about one thousand edits a day of utter & unquestionable trash. The difficulty is defining where that category ends. New ideas for this are welcome at WT:CSD. DGG 17:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Animal communication

You added this edit -- would it be possible to comment in more depth on the talk page? If the actual findings are mischaracterized then thats important, but the gist of both media reports is that unique auditory symbols (names, calls, sound waves) are shown to be recognized as associated with (or responded to by) specific individuals. Right now your edit's completely uncited and unsupported, in WP:CITE terms, and the removed text isn't. That's fine, if the edit's good, but means others can't check it. Can you reference and correct or cite a good version what was found? Thanks!

A good place to discuss this further might be on the articles talk page. FT2 00:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I've reorganized the section structure on that page. See its talk page for more. Want to help fill in some of the gaps? :) FT2 13:29, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

User:The Namaste Guild and username guidelines

I almost hate to bring this up in the middle of the AfD and with a sockpuppet charge against him(/her), but it just dawned on me that User:The Namaste Guild is likely a violation of the username guidelines, because it's the name of an organization. I'm all about assuming good faith, yet I also notice that the user refers to the organization in the first person. It's really starting to feel more and more like a promotional effort to me. Again, I don't want to fan the flames right now, but at the same time, I wanted to mention it. —C.Fred (talk) 03:36, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree. Once he realizes that the article won't be allowed to stand, he'll go away on his own. It's a why-bother sort of thing, but still, another angle that does exist with this user. —C.Fred (talk) 04:03, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

speedy survey

See . My experience of this sort of work is that simple non-automated methods work fine for this size project. Let's talk about it there. DGG 03:56, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Deletion notice for ATC-2K

Hi,

My page ATC-2K is up for deletion. I'm not trying to advertize it. I happen to own one and when I searched for it here nothing came up. How can I change it to get it approved?

Zorbathegreek —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zorbathegreek (talk • contribs).

Commonwealth Baptist college Afd

I think you closed it much too soon--in general we consider all colleges notable, and the argument that it could be deleted under A1 & A7, made in the discussion, needed a reply. The thing to do now is to revert your close. DGG (talk) 16:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Thou art much confused, my friend.  :-) T'was not I that commited this close! — Coren  20:03, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I am even more confused than you thought I was--you were one line down as the nom. --you did not close it, but Evilclown93 speedied it during the afd, and then someone else closed it, i decided it was not worth taking to DelRev or mentioning to him. DGG (talk) 22:24, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Humberto Guzmán Fricke

Please stop nominating this article for speedy deletion. The article states that he was the former head of the central bank of Bolivia. This is an unmistakable claim of notability, as we have many articles on people have similar standing. As such, A7 will not apply. Rebecca 06:20, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

No worries. :) Rebecca 06:21, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

TV translators

I wonder if just redirecting them to the appropriate network would be better. The ones I made were for religious networks (3ABN, TBN, etc.)--milk the cows (Talk) 16:41, 7 July 2007 (UTC).

Speedy?

Hello Coren. The stub that I just created (an was working on) does not fall into WP:CSD#A7. You may notice that one of the members of the band Amistades Peligrosas has her own article and notability asserted, thus bringing Amistades Peligrosas totally within WP:BAND. Also, may I ask you to have a look at this essay? Thank you and keep up the good work. Regards, Húsönd 16:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, I didn't feel insulted. :-) You made a good point about the garage bands that included a member who later became notable. But still, this is not the case. Amistades Peligrosas is a very well known band. I was surprised that it didn't have an article, that's why I created the stub. I'm sure that me or someone else will soon expand it with discography and achievements. Best regards, Húsönd 16:59, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Bruce Jones (surfboards)

Left a note on the talk page contesting the speedy delete... love to have some help making it right... — Preceding unsigned comment added by BMcCJ (talk • contribs)

OK, new, larger, better, more references... --- BMcCJ 04:04, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

GENESIS article

The GENESIS Simulation system is not a product and not available for sale. It is freely available over the web.

There are approximately 700 universities as part of the GENESIS developers consortium.

the other simulation system used in a similar manner for computational neuroscience is Neuron - which has an entry in Misplaced Pages —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neurocompute (talk • contribs).

the article specifically indicates two historical aspects of this software system. One is that it was one of the first software platforms to be parallelized and run on the Intel's first line of massively parallel supercomputers (with the wikipedia link to that article included)

the second is that it is one of the first open software scientific computing platforms, as well (that linked as well).

third, GENESIS formed the basis for the first ever course in computational modeling of the nervous system, conducted in woods hole in 1988.

all three make GENESIS of historical interest, and therefore worthy of entry in wikipedia, in my opinion.

In addition, as I have already indicated twice, The simulation system NEURON, which is the other (free) system used around the world to build realistic models of the nervous system already has an article in wiki. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neurocompute (talk • contribs).

I will make the suggested changes, although, in my opinion, adding the historical context makes the article more interesting. However, I understand that point about external independent references. I will try to find them -- but, baring that - will remove the 'firsts" tone of the article.

Neurocompute 04:09, 8 July 2007 (UTC)neurocompute

thanks much, glad you agree -- and thanks for the suggested improvements.

Neurocompute 04:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)neurocompute

Lu Wan

you can check page now,I feel he is prominent enough to be listed in wikipedia,if you agreed,I will remove the speedy template.--Ksyrie(Talkie talkie) 04:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Predatorius

Hi im trying to edit Gladiatus page but im getting to a bump on reliable sources issue where should i add it and how ?

Im still new arround hehe :) Tnx

Best regards Predatorius 18:05, July 8 2007 (UTC+1) Predatorius

Gladiatus

Ok tnx for the image tag replacement but what should i do when i find the article you have mentioned How can i add it into Gladiatus page ? Like New Headline Reference or ?

Tnx

Predatorius 18:08, July 8 2007 (UTC+1)

Well my knowledge of German is limited but i found an article about game on outside source article on german is this enough for refernce of the game ?

Sry im such a bother :)Predatorius  18:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I have added some more reference sites to Gladiatus wiki page can you tell me if that is enough to comply with reference policy and notability ?

Tnx

Predatorius  19:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC+1)

Fudzilla's G11 request

Well - I may have placed my thoughts on the AfD request for Fudzilla in the wrong plce - I havent felt so compelled to use wikipedia for anything but info for awhile. But i would much aprecciate it if you didnt put my comment up for deletion because it opposes yours. I just had to point out something extraordinarliy ironic. I commented on the AfD because fudzilla itself brought the AfD to my attention. BUT you noted on the AfD page, your own opinion, saying that "we might get alot of support for fudzilla appearing out of nowhere" due to the article fudzilla posted on this disgraceful mess. You vouched that fudzilla was not noteable - then why ON EARTH would you say you might get ALOT of support out of nowhere for fudzilla? Apparently they dont exist, according to you. I suppose the 100+ google returns, or the 2000 articles fudzilla has published dont phase your regime to get the article delted. Nice job blatantly contradicting your own support. And also - how on earth does that article scream "we need traffic" either I have a godly view of fudzilla, or this article makes fudzilla out to be unreputable; it is borderline slander on the site itself! Nowhere in there does it say anything that could be considered even remotely supporting the website. I suppose the "fudzilla employee" who you believe wrote this article just holds an extreme grudge on her place of employment, or takes the "devil's advocate" viewpoint a little too seriously. Unless the public believes a website that gives out "false information" that is often "untrue in the end" is one to be visited - your reason for the AfD is pretty much squashed. I mean no disrespect, but this is my opinion. Harsh? Yes. But then again, so are your comments on fudzilla's article. 67.168.70.142 05:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC) Arxinal (Still doesnt work for Fudzilla)

Above Fudzilla AfD request attachment

Misplaced Pages still confuses the heck out of me when it comes to editing. So I dont know if I placed my thoughts on the AfD itself in the correct page, or if I formatted my response to your comments on this page correctly, but heres the stamp I didnt register above: *Actually - just figured out how to edit the above one* 67.168.70.142 05:05, 10 July 2007 (UTC) Arxinal (Still doesnt work for fudzilla)

Lists of songs whose title constitutes the entire lyrics no consensus

I admit it was a tough call and I should have explained it more (but it was late). Had TenPound Hammer not changed his vote, I might have been more inclined to see it as delete. But also, I couldn't really see clear-cut reasons for deletion being stated ... you could just as easily have said many of the delete votes were IDONTLIKEIT, either.

Anyway, perhaps in the future we will have a more clear consensus on some more of these song lists ... many of which, I remember from the time they were created back in 2005, were sort of dubious from the get-go. Frankly, some of them were long overdue for deletion. Daniel Case 14:05, 10 July 2007 (UTC)