Misplaced Pages

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by David Gerard (talk | contribs) at 19:11, 24 December 2007 (→How to obtain access: rm editorialisation and single example (there are lots more, and enumerating them would be unnecessarily limiting)). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

• ]

#wikipedia-en-admins is a closed Internet relay chat channel allowing for real-time communications among administrators on the English Misplaced Pages and selected others. In addition to English Misplaced Pages administrators, access to the channel has been provided to some administrators on other Wikimedia projects, former admins, developers, and OTRS respondents. As with all freenode IRC channels with the word Misplaced Pages in the title, it is managed by the Group Contacts.

Purpose

As envisioned by the founders and channel operators, the main purpose of the channel is to provide a forum for interaction among administrators. The channel provides a place for admins to obtain input from their colleagues on issues that arise from time to time, as well as to seek out an administrator with particular skills or interests to address a situation, or to locate a functionary such as a checkuser, bureaucrat, or steward where called for.

In addition to these primary purposes, the channel also facilitates social interaction among the administrator corps and other invitees apart from their day-to-day on-wiki dealings. The channel also has played an occasional but valuable role in emergency circumstances, such as when a rogue administrator deleted the main page and blocked Jimbo Wales.

The channel was originally created by Talrias for Danny to deal with urgent living biography issues. Foundation staff and board members sometimes come onto the channel with a problem needing solving. It's a work channel with a lot of background chatting.

Important: The channel is useful for administrators to double-check themselves or obtain second opinions prior to acting, but in-channel discussion is never a substitute for an administrator's taking responsibility for his or her own administrator actions, nor for on-wiki discussions (on WP:ANI or another appropriate forum) of controversial issues or decisions. Basing an admin decision on IRC discussion is a bad idea. You bear responsibility for your own actions. WP:ANI is probably a much better idea if the matter's not urgent.

Conduct on the channel

The ethos behind the channel is "You're an admin, you were picked for your judgment. Use it."

Note that if you use the channel to sanity-check a decision, you still need to justify it as needed on the wiki. An administrator's actions must be able to stand on their own merits, regardless of any discussions on IRC.

The channel is a place for en:wp admins and other trusted Wikipedians and Wikimedians. Those on the channel should comport themselves in a collegial manner, even when upset or involved in an issue. Don't be rude to or about people. Ever.

Although channel guidelines discourage the release of channel logs by any participant, and their publication on-wiki is even more strongly discouraged, the channel (like any other IRC channel) is not secret or secure. Logs have in the past become available or forwarded to various people, including editors who were the subject of discussion as well as the Arbitration Committee.

Dealing with problematic behaviour on the channel

If peer pressure ("please stop that") doesn't work: Admins witnessing behavior unbecoming a Misplaced Pages admin in the channel, of any kind, are encouraged to contact the Arbitration Committee and Jimbo Wales directly. Jimbo has committed to a sense of kindness and civility on Misplaced Pages, and this can include some forms of off-wiki interaction.

How to obtain access

All Misplaced Pages administrators are technically entitled to entry to the channel, though in practice some are made unwelcome. If you're an English Misplaced Pages admin:

1. Request access below, providing your cloak details and/or IRC nick. (Someone will then process these by hand with /cs ACCESS #wikipedia-en-admins ADD nickname 5.). Once done, you can get access to the channel by typing /msg chanserv invite #wikipedia-en-admins. You should then be able to join the channel as normal.

   Also consider pinging ops in #wikimedia-ops (with !ops) which may expedite the process.

2. If you wish, go here to request an IRC cloak. (Sean then processes these by hand). This step is optional, but a good idea.

   If you wish for 'automatic' access where a /cs invite command is not required, please ask an op while in the channel. A cloak is required for this, they will op themselves and do /mode +I *!*@your/cloak/here

• The IRC instructions page may also be helpful.

Once an editor is granted access, he or she generally retains it indefinitely. No formal process for the removal of access exists and such matters have been addressed by the channel operators on a case-by-case basis. Formal access to the channel will not be revoked unless a participant refuses to abide by the standards of conduct expected of channel members. Using the channel inappropriately is a ground for the removal of access.

Pending requests

Please register before adding a request (type in /msg nickserv register password, replacing password with one of your choice)

Channel operators

There are several channel operators for this channel who have the ability to add users to the channel's access list, and remove users from the channel or access list.

The channel owners say that they would like all English Misplaced Pages administrators on the channel, particularly new ones, so as to get the admins talking to each other and learning accepted practice from the distinguished and well trusted admins there. Note however, that not all admins who are regarded on Misplaced Pages as distinguished and well trusted enjoy the trust of the dominant members of the channel. Some wikipedians regard the private status of the channel as being of particular value for mentoring in an environment unfettered by "wikilawyering" and "process wonkery", while others would like to see this closed channel dedicated to Misplaced Pages admins brought under the control of the Wikimedia Foundation.

No aspect of IRC is mandatory to being an admin, and if anyone tries to make it a criterion for support at Requests for adminship, such comments should be ignored.

Sources of processes detailed on this page

James F. is the contact freenode has for Wikimedia-related IRC channels. The Foundation disclaims IRC, so James is the sole source of authority, a state of affairs which has led to some anomalies. For instance, there are examples of well-respected wikipedia admins being unwelcome in the channel, while non-admins with friends in high circles are made welcome, etc. James is only occasionally active at the moment in this area. This means that his deputy, seanw should be consulted for the majority of issues.

See also

• IRC
• Misplaced Pages:List of administrators/IRC nicknames
• Misplaced Pages:Private correspondence

• Misplaced Pages adminship