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Statement of the dispute

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Description

Germen engages in bad faith, one-sided discussion and doesn't seem motivated to resolve disputes, engages in edit warring leading to page protection, multiple breaches of the 3RR, disrupting wikipedia to make a point (creating alternative pages for content that is reverted that are all subsequently deleted) and possible anonymous editing to circumvent blocks across a wide range of pages related to Islamophobia. He also marks all edits, even controversial reverts, as minor, often without comment.

Evidence of disputed behavior

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3RR

Mutilple breaches of the 3RR despite various warnings, blocked three times in the last fortnight:

  1. 12:04, 15 June 2005.
  2. 17:43, 19 June 2005 despite warnings
  3. 18:06, 22 June 2005 despite being previously blocked with warning.
  4. 11:47, 12 July 2005
  5. Attempts to warn Germen about further breaches of the 3RR are meet with unapologetic indignation with the possibility that further 3RR's maybe forthcoming if Germen is "forced" to do so.

Misplaced Pages:Blocking policy

Possible use of anonymous sock puppetting to circumvent admin blocks and make bad faith personal attacks on talk pages:

  1. Anonymous IP 130.89.6.66 makes reverts to page that closely mirror Germen's own reverts after Germen's 3RR block of 22 June 2005 (see above) leading to page protection . Admin SlimVirgin confirms suspicion anonymous IP is Germen .
  2. Same anonymous IP makes bad faith remarks on talk page occur shortly after Germen is blocked for breaching the 3RR. IP seems to originate from Germen's university .

Misplaced Pages:Don't disrupt Misplaced Pages to illustrate a point

  1. Created Prejudices (islam) and Prejudice (islam) hist (see Misplaced Pages:Votes_for_deletion/Prejudice_(islam)) in reaction to Islamophobia being protected.
  2. Attempts to re-create deleted article Islamophilia (non-notable neologism) all of which have to be speedily deleted in response.
  3. Created Persecution of non-Muslims in response to failed VfD for Persecution of Muslims, now itself up for VfD.

Misplaced Pages:Vandalism

  1. Germen vandalises the Prejudice (islam) by deleting the VfD notice and, when this doesn't work, insists of moving VfD to down the page. The page is reverted by administrator David. German then reports the revert of this vandalism as a violation of the 3RR . He is eventually blocked for vandalism . His response when the block ends is to quote the latin tag 'Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi' , which translates as "What Jupiter can do, cattle can not do" and means that he believes that no action was taken over David's alleged 3RR violation because he is an admin.
  2. Germen has unilaterally stripped pages of the NPOV/factual accuracy tag. , ,

This tag can be used only when there are explicit reasons for it as stated in the talk page.

Marking non-minor edits as minor without comment

Various examples of marking major edits as minor or without proper comments or both, despite warnings:

  1. Germen deletes my comments, marking edit as minor without comment!

Misplaced Pages:Assume good faith

Germen insists on making a point of identifying "muslim" editors and then attributing "common" traits, such as unreliability, to them, among other bad faith remarks:

Misplaced Pages:No original research

Germen insists on "disputing" agreed definitions of Islamophobia, using unrelated sources and spoon-feeding evidence to "dispute" the defintions through "logical deduction" (or original research), without providing references that actually dispute the defintion. Much time is spent pointlessly debating basic Misplaced Pages policy making other discussion almost impossible:

Germen continues to carry out original research to arrive at a logical theory that, quoting for the Koran and other sources, will disprove the defitinition of Islamophobia as it is defined by the Runnymede Foundation. He continues to ignore my and others remarks that this is original research, and without referencing reputable secondary sources that either a) reproduce his logic or b) demonstrate his original thesis.

Applicable policies

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  1. Misplaced Pages:Three-revert rule
  2. Misplaced Pages:Blocking policy
  3. Misplaced Pages:Vandalism
  4. Misplaced Pages:Resolving disputes
  5. Misplaced Pages:Assume good faith
  6. Misplaced Pages:No original research
  7. Misplaced Pages:Don't disrupt Misplaced Pages to illustrate a point

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

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  1. Attempt to restart discussion to come to an agreement using draft version of article during protection. Listed page for RfC
  2. June 9, 2005 attempt to defuse controversy, focus on specific changes

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

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  1. Axon 16:15, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
  2. BrandonYusufToropov 15:46, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Other users who endorse this summary

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  1. Heraclius 14:03, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
  2. Dcarrano 14:39, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
  3. David | Talk 15:49, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
  4. Francs2000 | Talk File:Uk flag large.png 20:15, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
  5. Mustafaa 20:38, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

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Removal of dispute tags

The reason I removed the tag was that there was no reason anymore to maintain this tag: all explicit points were addressed. So this was not vandalism, rather cleaning up. --Germen 09:39, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

You should not remove dispute tags so shortly after they are added and unless there is a rough consensus to do so. Axon 09:44, 19 July 2005 (UTC)