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The freenode network has "chat rooms" dedicated to Misplaced Pages 24-hours per day, in which Wikipedians can engage in real-time discussions with each other. Many Wikipedians have chatting open in one window and hop back and forth between it and other windows in which they are working on Misplaced Pages. The chat rooms most relevant to English Misplaced Pages are listed below; a more complete list of channels (for other language Wikipedias, other languages, and recent changes feeds) exists at m:IRC channels.

"Chat room" is another name for an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channel. IRC chat takes place on a network of servers, the network that hosts the Wikimedia channels is known as freenode. To participate in the chat, you need a type of program or plug-in called an IRC client. Popular clients include mIRC (Windows), Colloquy (Mac OS X), irssi (Linux), and ChatZilla (Firefox) and X-Chat (most platforms). There are also scripts available to enhance your IRC client, and java-based chat clients that work in most web browsers if you are travelling or do not wish to install separate software.

Use and anonymity on IRC are covered in more detail below. Note that IRC needs more care to maintain anonymity than Wiki editing does.

How is Misplaced Pages IRC related to Misplaced Pages?

The Misplaced Pages channels on freenode are an unofficial place for Wikipedians to chat using IRC. As far as their influence on Misplaced Pages goes, IRC is equivalent to a conversation in a pub — the discussion may be conducted between a small number of people but may be overheard by hundreds, or more if the logs are published. When the channels are used to attack Wikipedians, the resulting atmosphere is very damaging to the project's collaborative relationships.

IRC tutorial and host masking

To begin using IRC chat, see Misplaced Pages:IRC tutorial. The IRC instructions on meta may also be useful.

Anonymity and masking

Main article: Meta:IRC channel cloaks

As on Misplaced Pages itself, you can use IRC with a name that hides your IP, and allows you to remember your preferred settings. If you have any special access rights to any channel, those will be remembered under your name too. On IRC these are two separate matters - registering a nickname is quick and easy (like on Misplaced Pages itself, and that name is then password protected for your own use, and cloaking is the request to have the account configured to hide its IP from other users. These matters are all covered in the IRC tutorial.

To request that your IRC account be cloaked, go here to request an IRC cloak. Sean Whitton (irc: seanw) then processes these by hand. This step is optional, but a good idea.

Note that anonymity is maintained with more difficulty on IRC than on Misplaced Pages. Without a hostmask, your IP address will be visible, and indexed on some Internet websites. Even with a hostmask, your IP address is at risk to be revealed due to the nature of the IRC protocol (due to the effects of a "ghost" session). If you are concerned about your anonymity, you may wish to consult with someone familiar with IRC.

Accessing IRC

The usual way to access IRC is via an IRC client. These are often well-featured and make it easy to watch multiple chats at a time. Scripts to enhance your IRC client are available online available at Misplaced Pages:Scripts. Popular clients include:

  • Windows - mIRC
  • Mac OS X - Colloquy
  • Linux - irssi
  • Most platforms - X-Chat, and ChatZilla (an extension for the Firefox browser) (X-Chat in particular is available on Windows, Mac and Linux/*nix, and is very fully featured)

There are also java-based chat clients that work in most web browsers if you are travelling or do not wish to install separate software. Useful alternatives are:

  • A Jabber chat room is available at wikipedia@conference.jabber.org if you are not an IRC user.
  • A web browser-based access using Java is available at http://java.freenode.net. (This is a preferred method of access, as it retains the user's original hostmask, unlike CGI:IRC sites, and is officially sanctioned by freenode.)

Use of IRC

Once you are connected to the freenode IRC network, you can choose which public channels you join and which chats you engage in. If you are authorized to join non-public channels then you can take part in those too. Consider also requesting a cloak if your anonymity is important.

In general on IRC, each channel operates autonomously and each has its own norms and policies - these may cover conduct (including civility, appropriate topics, and language), on/off-topic chat, who may join, and who may be asked to leave. Each channel is autonomous and in general there is no appeal from a decision by the operators of that channel to an outside body (which may have any or no reason), so it is worth checking the channel norms and rules before accidentally making a mistake of conduct. That said, in general most channels used by Wikimedia communities are friendly and do have people you can contact in case of problems. (See problems and help below.)

Once connected, some users stay logged-in to the chatrooms whenever they are on Misplaced Pages, and check in on the discussions from time to time, to read what is been accumulating there and to participate. Some programs used for chatting "beep" you whenever there is activity in a chat room so you will not miss anything. Often, users jump onto a chat room to draw the attention of others there of something on Misplaced Pages that needs attention.

Non-public channels

A number of non-public channels exist, for freenode use itself, as well as for Wikimedia communities. The best known of these on English Misplaced Pages is the administrators' channel, but others exist also for groups such as the mediation committee, the arbitration committee, checkuser collaboration, and the like. Access to these channels requires use of a registered account, described above. In general this page covers the public channels (that anyone may join), and the en-admins channel (below) only.

To request access to such a channel
(and consider requesting a cloak if your anonymity is important):

  1. Post a request under pending requests, at the end of this page, providing your registered IRC details and links.
  2. Someone will then process these by hand with /cs ACCESS #wikipedia-en-admins ADD nickname 5. Once done, you can get access to the channel by typing /msg chanserv invite #wikipedia-en-admins. You should then be able to join the channel as normal. (You may also consider pinging the ops in #wikimedia-ops (with !ops) which can expedite the process.)
  3. If you wish for 'automatic' access where a /cs invite command is not required, please ask an op while in the channel. A cloak is required for this, they will op themselves and do /mode +I *!*@your/cloak/here
  4. The IRC instructions page may also be helpful.

List of useful channels

Non-public channels in green require user access to be specified in the irc configuration. See non-public channels and pending requests for access.

General channels

The main general-purpose channels relevant to English Misplaced Pages are:

  • #wikipedia - general Misplaced Pages-related chat, conversations sometimes off-topic.
  • #wikipedia-en - general chat focussing more on English Misplaced Pages, usually more on-topic but less heavily used.
  • #wikipedia-en-help (formerly known as #wikipedia-bootcamp) is a help channel for Wikipedians. It also receives bot notifications when {{helpme}} is used about questions at the Help Desk and other places. Friendly helpers are voiced here.

User groups

Functional groups:

General collaboration:

WikiProjects:

Channels for specific tasks

  • #wikipedia-en-spam - a botfeed of all links added to English Misplaced Pages. Channel is for linkspam reverting. Feeds for other languages and projects also now exist.

Social channels

Technical channels, and technical support for tools

Technical:

  • #wikimedia-tech - technical issues related to the Wikimedia systems.
  • #mediawiki - discussion and technical questions related to the mediawiki software (including template help, and other questions).

Tools, and support for tools:

#wikipedia-en-admins

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As of March 2008, this channel has adopted an internal code of conduct and newcomer information. This was in order to clarify areas that have gradually become norms during 2007, but historically were not clearly set out or were problematic "grey" areas. (It should be noted that this is an internal decision, reflecting the established norms of the channel at this time, agreed and enacted by near-unanimous channel user consensus; they operate in addition to any other internal or external policies or practices that may exist.)

They also set out some "anti-abuse" provisions that consensus agrees the channel operators may drawn upon, if they are notified of a problem. However as with all guidelines, they are intended to be used for the benefit of the project, with commonsense, and not as if set in stone.

All current English Misplaced Pages administrators, and former administrators in good standing have a presumption of entry to this channel, subject to appropriate conduct, but this list is by no way exclusive -- a number of non-admins have been allowed to join the channel, although this is rarer now than it used to be. No clear rules on who is entitled to access exist at this time. For information on how to gain access, see the general information above.

Once an editor is granted access, he or she generally retains it indefinitely. The process for any long-term removal of access has so far been addressed by the channel operators on a case-by-case basis. Formal access to the channel will not usually be long-term revoked unless a participant refuses to abide by the standards of conduct expected of channel members. For this reason the channel has not always removed access following a forcible (Arbcom) desysopping, depending on whether the reason is felt to be an significant problem to the channel or so harmful to the project as to merit removal. A few forcibly desysopped users are still therefore permitted access to the channel.

Help

Problems and help

Help for accessing IRC itself is best requested on the talk page, if you have read the tutorial and other information and are still unable to use it. Once you can access IRC by some means, there are help and information channels on most Wikimedia-related topics listed above, type /join #channelname into any window, to join them and ask your question (eg, /join #wikipedia-en-help). It is customary on IRC to just ask, not to ask if you can ask :-)

Within the Wikimedia and English Misplaced Pages channels, your first recourse if you have difficulty, is to ask to speak to a channel operator, if any are around. You can identify channel operators in most of these channels since they will appear as "level 10" or more, in a list of channel users. Type /msg chanserv access #channelname list for a list of users (this can sometimes have hundreds of lines). Further help can be obtained as follows:

  • #wikipedia-en - ask to speak to a channel operator. If needed, you can often address such problems to administrators who are IRC users. (Please see the userlist of #wikipedia-en-admins for information.)
  • #wikipedia-en-admins (the non-public admins channel) - has adopted its own code of conduct that covers problematic situations; please see that channel's guidelines and user information above, for relevant links and userlists.
  • All other #wiki... channels - speak to a channel operator for that channel.
  • Beyond that, the Wikimedia channels are supervised by James F (irc: James_F) and his deputy Sean Whitton (irc: seanw), who can advise on serious problems that channel operators have not resolved appropriately.

If the problem relates to user conduct in any channel, your first recourse should be to try and resolve matters with the person involved, failing which, ask to speak to someone who is a channel operator. If your problem cannot be resolved by channel operators, then it may be raised further as above.

You should not normally post logs on the wiki, or circulate them without permission from those involved; rather, if a matter requires logs then please obtain permission before circulating or publicizing them, and if in doubt ask a channel operator or other experienced user for advice.

Pending requests for access to channels

If you wish to access a non-public channel, please add your name and details below. Alternatively it can be quicker to leave a note on the talk page of any user of that channel (who might be able to help, or can add you to the access list) who may see it, or another appropriate talk page.

Please also register your nickname before adding a request (type in /msg nickserv register password, replacing password with one of your choice). You may also optionally register a cloak (see above). Format for requests (add to end of list): 

* Username and rights links:  {{Userrights|Wiki Username}} ~~~~
:* IRC account:               IRC Username
:* (Optional) cloak:          (Misplaced Pages/Cloakname if you have one, or 'none' if you don't)
:* Channels and evidence:     en-admins, ] or other link


Add new requests to this section - access will be given when checked:

You need to register your nick (/msg nickserv help register) before we can add you to the channel. Cbrown1023 talk 00:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks in advance! Malinaccier (talk) 00:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

See also

Information

Tools

User essays

Subpages

As of February 2008, there are two subpages to this page:

Other discussion venues

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