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You do know they replay your interview two or three times a week under a spiffy little nickname, right? ;-) Bearcat 04:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

laugh They're calling you "Facebook Kid", actually. Definitely hook the radio up when you get it — I can't even tell you how much I'm in love with R3.

Anyway, it's good that things have quieted down on that front — but for an administrator, the hell never really ends. Something just as frustrating has been going on since last fall on a different set of Canadian politics articles, and I despair of ever figuring out how to make it end... bleah. Bearcat 04:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Archive 2

I have just archived my talk page, to see previous discussions, please see Archive 3. -- Chabuk 06:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, that's appreciated Epson291 21:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:Yadvashem.JPG

hi, just to let you know that i've copied this image to commons (Image:Yad Vashem.JPG) for use in this Wikinews article. best, Doldrums 08:52, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:JewishMusic

Hi! I'll have a look about removing/moving the pictures right now. As for the "main article" I thought it was helpful with the layout, as it might not be obvious that they are articles. It certaintly doesn't look too wide on my screen, but I have a resoulution of 1280x1024 so that might be why. (And what's wrong with decoration, it makes it look nice!) Epson291 06:52, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thought you might like this

Enjoy! ED209 21:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

About the UWO article: this is not academic boosterism since I don't attend Western Ontario. I've done a comparison of the Misplaced Pages articles for McGill, Toronto, Western, and Queen's and I see that all other 3 articles have references to rankings in the introductions, so Western should have too. Another point: it is a fact that UWO is consistently ranked among the top 5 universities by Maclean's, and it is a fact that every Wiki page about Canadian universities refers to the Maclean's ranking. And what problem do you have with linking the word "oldest" to the "Old Four" article? You should not delete something as long as it is factual, accurate, and appropriate.

For your information, the introduction is almost identical as this: http://communications.uwo.ca/about/index.htm The only exception is that that sentence "Western is one of Canada's oldest and best universities" is conspicuously removed. Is it an effort to play down UWO by somebody?

Are you kidding me? The whole introduction (not done by me) is copied from the UWO website for the exception of, guess what, MY LINE. I wrote, "It is consistently ranked among the top Canadian universities by Maclean's." How is that different from what's written on the McGill article??? I'm gonna write, "It is consistently ranked among the top 5 Canadian universities by Maclean's" now. It is verifiable statistics, isn't it?

By the way, I didn't write "it is one of the best schools in Canada." Obviously you deleted my entry without even reading it. I get the sense that you're related to McGill somehow, am I right? Please choose 04:45, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

McGill: The university... is among the top 25 universities in the world according to the 2006 Times Higher Education Supplement." UWO: It is among the top 5 Canadian universities according to Maclean's 2006 University Rankings issue.-

If you delete my entry again this time, then you're simply biased. By the way, you don't seem to be interested in fixing the UWO article so that it conforms with the McGill article. All this time you spend deleting whatever's written, you could just spend correcting the sentence like you want it to be... McGill student, huh? Please choose 05:24, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

The fact that you're a McGill's student is very relevant indeed. It makes you biased against other schools and, according to the founder of Misplaced Pages on an interview with WBUR a couple of days ago, you shouldn't be fiddling with this page. Yep, that's him talking, not me. Oh, and the fact that I listen to WBUR should imply I live in Boston, and I don't attend any Canadian university. I'm therefore unbiased! In fact, I didn't care about the UWO article until you kept deleting my line, which really bugged me... Please choose 06:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Your analogy is nice, except that it's erroneous. Because you live in Montreal, that doesn't mean you can't write stuff about Montreal or other cities because cities don't rival. But colleges do rival. That you're a McGill's students certainly implies you might be biased against other Canadian schools. For the same token, if you are a fan of Manchester Utd, that doesn't mean you hate all Londoners, but that could easily mean you're biased against Chelsea FC. I'm taking good sense here, why are you trying to use bogus analogy to make your point?

Now, to be fair, that you "might" be biased against other schools doesn't mean you "are" biased. But the matter of fact is, you didn't bother correcting the sentence I wrote. It seems like all you had in mind is, "This sentence is making UWO look good. Oh no, that's not good. I gotta delete it." Hey, if you're so interested in making the article conform to the Wiki consensus, why don't you just fix the sentence, huh? How hard is it for you (supposedly long-time contributor) to add a reference. After all, a whole lot of people know the link to the Maclean's ranking, and I'm sure as hell you do, too (If you don't, then you don't have the knowledge to be meddling with Canadian universities articles). Stop being a kid, and start acting like an adult, please.

And seriously, what problem do you have with linking the word "oldest" to the "Old Four" wiki article? Can't stand seeing UWO next to your own McGill??? Please choose

Hey, I think I wrote a sentence including the citation and the link to the Maclean's ranking (pdf file) BEFORE YOU DID!!! Then you deleted it, you wrote it again, and you cited the same source as mine. Now you're saying that you deleted my sentence because there was no citation, and that you fixed it. What's the deal?

Oh, and thanks for admitting that you are biased. After all, don't you think it's stupid to squabble over one sentence while a whole lot of other stuff in that same introduction is biased as hell. UWO is a "vibrant" center of learning. What does vibrant mean? Why is it not promotional? A whole bunch of citations are needed, you didn't delete them, you put a note instead. How nice of you!!! Why didn't you do the same thing for the Maclean's sentence??? Hmm, I wonder if... Please choose 20:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm gonna send you the "Please assume good faith" stuff too, only if I know how to... Weren't you the one who first started this whole mess when you accused me of academic boosterism or something like that? Why didn't you assume I was trying to help and take my sentence as true but not conformed to standard? If you did so, you would naturally correct it instead of going on a "deleting spree"...

Your messages to me are full of attacks disguised as constructive criticisms. Please refer to the article Hypocrisy. Please choose 21:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

STOP LYING!!! You didn't fixed my sentence. You deleted it. I fixed it (corrected the sentence form and included the citation). You deleted it again. Then you put the exact same sentence back and said you fixed it... Please refer to lie Please choose 21:15, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for quitting. I'm gonna let you save your face by not pointing out the lies you made in your last message. Please choose

User:PalestineRemembered

I just noticed that you reverted a change made by PalestineRemembered to their own user page, which you identified as being anti-Semitic, however, it's not clear which part of their edit you specifically objected to. In the interest of avoiding conflict, I reckon it would be worth putting the unoffensive parts of their change back in, and just removing the bits you believe are anti-Semitic. Even better, you may want to ask the user to remove those specific parts themselves, as this can help foster a collaborative environment, and help the other user learn what kind of language they should avoid. Mark Chovain 22:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

You make a good point. If he complains, I'll apologize and point out the sections in question. Though to be honest, it was pretty much all a problem. -- Chabuk 22:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Cool - thanks for that Mark Chovain 04:35, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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Chabon edits

While it was thrilling to see Michael Chabon comment on his own Misplaced Pages entry (and to see how the entry had influenced mass media), I feel as if it may not have justified one of your deletions. It doesn't make sense to me that the entry on Chabon should omit the fact that he "married the writer Ayelet Waldman in 1993, and they currently live together in Berkeley, California with their four children." This information appears in the author's blurb for all of Chabon's recent books, and isn't exactly invasive. What would you think of reinstalling this information and moving it (along with the truncated "sexual orientation" section) to a new "personal life" section at the end of the biography? Thanks, and great work on the Chabon page in general. -Hobbesy3 07:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

"Persecution..." article

Chabuk, I was wondering what are your thoughts about Biblically based articles and how they would be affected if we start excluding the Bible as a source. Can you please differentiate between an article like Moses and other such articles and the "Persecution..." article? I'm just trying to undertsand your thought process on this matter so we can better resolve the issue. Please let me know. Thank you. Jtpaladin 18:33, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Chabuk, I have closed the straw poll on whether or not keep the article with a slim consensus to keep. I felt, looking it over, that the major contributors to the page had all weighed in. If you feel it would be more appropriate, an AfD would generate a broader range of comments. If not, I would invite you to please pitch in on the ensuing discussion about the scope of the article -- personally I feel that your input would be invaluable in ensuring that we have the best possible outcome. Thanks. Pastordavid 22:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Shimon Peres

Hello, Chabuk. It's been the pratice on Misplaced Pages, to describe (in Infoboxes) an elected official as Office-Elect (or in parlamentary cases Office-Designate), until that individual takes office. As a result, Peres should be listed as President-Elect of Israel until he takes office in July 15 (then he can be listed as the 9th President of Israel). That's the reason for my edits. GoodDay 17:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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Shraga Hager

Hi, there is currently a discussion about the notability of Rabbi Shraga Hager your insight on this would greatly be appreciated. Have a beautiful day--יודל 13:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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You want to check out Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Youth Conservative Party of Canada‎ and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Congress For Tomorrow. Certain comments are being made about you by a WP:SPA, that I believe are totally without merit. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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From this comment, I get the impression you don't quite understand what "conflict of interest" means. It doesn't mean that your judgement is impaired or that you would make a decision that goes against the interests of the community. All it means is that one person is playing two roles, in a situation where that's usually not supposed to happen. It's highly respectable to recuse oneself in situations of conflict of interest. It's not an admission of weakness or impaired judgement. It's proper procedure. The reason for conflict of interest procedures is of course to avoid actual situations of impaired judgement etc.; but in the majority of cases, there is no impaired judgement etc. but there is still conflict of interest. --Coppertwig (talk) 00:16, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I know perfectly well what a conflict of interest is, which is why I made it clear that I was involved with the various organizations being discussed. However, the organizations are, objectively (given Misplaced Pages's standards on verifiability and secondary sources), not deserving of articles. Thanks for your concern. -- Chabuk 00:25, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

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What are your thoughts on the campaign audit ruling today for Vaughan's mayor? ED209 (talk) 21:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

As I live in Montreal, I really don't follow the daily goings on of Vaughan politics so I'm not sure which ruling it was. - Chabuk 18:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I figured you would have heard about it or read about it by now, as you closely monitor the Vaughan related pages on here. Anyway, here's the link: http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=&ncl=1134453473&scoring=d Your thoughts? ED209 (talk) 18:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Just looking through the archives of my talk page, I noticed you make this statement to me in an argument we had:

"In the world of electoral politics $750 is small change, enough to buy a couple lawn signs, thats about it. Receiving 96% of donations (not sure where you got that number from) from corporations doesn't mean much, cause it's all coming from different corporations. To compare it to lobby politics in the States (which is essentially what you're doing) simply doesn't make sense."

One of the allegations against the Mayor seems to be that she accepted thousands from the linked corporations/individuals. If she is proven guilty of violating the election act, I guess we're talking about a similar situation to lobby politics, right? ED209 (talk) 18:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I guess. Not that I would be overly upset, I supported Di Biase and am not overly fond of Ms. Jackson. --Chabuk 18:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you don't like Jackson I'm sure you will be very happy with many of the things that are coming down the pipeline over the next few months. ED209 (talk) 18:53, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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Please link to the primary AEPi userbox rather than using your own code. {{User:UBX/aepi}} Also with the other userboxes you use - it will connect you with the community better. Rasamassen (talk) 17:54, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Jewish Music

Hi, i noticed you created the page on Miami Boys Choir. I have started up a jewish music wiki and i'm currently in desperate need of a user base. I hope you're interested in helping out. If you know anyone else who might be interested, or can help out in any way, i would much appreciate it. All the best, — DeFender1031 01:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)