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Nogueira Ferrão

You may be interested in cleaning up the article Nogueira Ferrão. Cheers. The Ogre (talk) 22:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Date formats

Okay, while finding a reference for you, I see that I'm only partially right. See MOS:NUM#Full date formatting, Canada can go either way. But according to that link:

In general, the following formats are acceptable:

International (European) format: 14 February and 14 February 1990 (common in most countries);

US format: February 14 and February 14, 1990 (predominant in the US, also widely used in Canada; note the comma).

Date formatting in an article is governed by the following three simple guidelines.

And also:

At the start of an article on an individual, his or her dates of birth and death are provided. For example: "Charles Darwin (12 February 1809 – 19 April 1882) was a British ..."

I'd really rather go about this amicably. Linking of dates is deprecated and I hope that you see this. There's no reason to fight over this.

Dismas| 15:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why you think it's madness. I'm not trying to be harsh, I just don't see your point of view. A link to the year or the date isn't really relevant to the person. Think about it, what does your birthdate mean. Pretty much nothing except to you. The same with me. Mine doesn't mean anything really to anyone but me. The year doesn't really have any relevance to the biography.

And if I carry this thinking over to the wp:overlink position that we also disagree on... What relevance does a link to someone's hobby have to do with them? Let's say that the article on Gandhi, for example, says that he played cricket when he was young. A very very small number of people who are reading the Gandhi article won't know what cricket is. For one, it's a widely known sport. It's a "common English term". For two, by clicking on and reading the cricket article, the reader won't really learn anything more about Gandhi. So what's the reason for the link? If the article weren't about Gandhi but about, let's say, sports or games then linking "cricket" would be of value since it is itself a game and a sport. The reader would learn more about games/sports. This is the reasoning that I use when delinking people's hobbies such as snowboarding, baseball, music, or (and I actually saw this linked at some point but didn't take it out because I was in the middle of something at work) baking cookies. Why link both words in a biography? (I think that last example was in an article that you had worked on). Dismas| 15:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)