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This article needs complete cleanup rewrite. This page has been a playground for idiots that make jokes and other idiots that use the former idiots to accuse entire croatian nation for megalomania.
So this way you demostrate your knowledge about this topic and supreme mind telling us who is idiot and what the accusation is?--Factanista08:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Also, there is a lot of spam here. Some 3rd class artists or scientist propably see this page as a chance to put their names on the internet.
I suggest puttin "" next to every possible name here and deleting all unexplained names.
I'm willing to clean up this article as long as somebody agrees to do translations for me from the Croatian wikipedia whenever I need them. The translations don't have to be perfect, I'll fix them grammar and spelling-wise, just enough to work with. I'll place whatever translations I need here under:
I found very little information on this architect but the information I did find suggests he was notable. Why isn't there any information on him? Does he perhaps have an article on another wikipedia? Antidote13:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Removal of actors
Why have the likes of Eric Bana, John Malkovich, Tom Hanks, Denise Richards etc...been removed from from the list here.
If someone has one parent or has some link to Croatia by blood why not mention it...and that inludes Marco Polo, Haydn and Maradona.
All famous people on Wiki who have a mixture of orign even a 1/4 tend to outline it in the first paragraph.
As per The Serbian Americans by Jerome Kisslinger, Chelsea House Publishers New York 1990 pages 99-101 John Malkovich is a Serb. The consulting editors for this book were:
Ann Orlov, Managing editor, Harvard Encyclopedia of American Ethnic Groups, Harvad MA
M.Mark Stolarik - President, The Balch Institute for Ethnic Studies, Philadelphia
David M. Reimers, Professor of History, New York University
James F Watts, Chairman, History Department, City College of New York
About Malković I know, he even has living relatives in Croatia, Marco Polo is questionable though he was born on Hvar. Ivo Andrić and Ruđer Bošković were Croats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.14.249 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Ivo Andric was a Serb, he wrote mostly about serbs and people in bosnia, he lived in serbia, was serbian ambasador, and both of his parents were Serbs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.185.100.111 (talk) 12:21, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I have found some intersting theories and propaganda on the net.Above statement is one such peice of rubbish. Just because soemthing is in print doesn't make it truth .
JOHN MALKOVICH IS AMERICAN HIS FATHER WAS A CROAT, END OF STORY.
John Malkovich's father never declared himself as a Croat. The people who worked on the book above are supreme authorities as to the ethnic groups in the USA--Mario.radin12:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Ja samo ne razumin zasto oni to minjaju, i to stalno svaki dan...zasto treba pravite te probelme. Ako se zna i oni kazu da su Hrvati kako odmah oni nalaze neke verzije da su Srbi.
Ivo Andric nije hrvat, Ivo je rodjen u Bosni. Covjek nema veze sa Hrvatskom. Bosanski Katolik. Sta ga veze za Hrvatsku po vama? Religija? Mozda je onda i Papa Hrvat........vi hrvatski nacionalisti treba malo da smirite dozivljaje. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.214.204.164 (talk) 09:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Asim Kurjak
Asim Kurjak has been accused for several infamous things, such as abusing harvested egg cells to achieve exceptional results in treating fertility problems and recently of pretty huge plagiarism of his science works (basically, copying parts of other scientists work). If that is proven true, he should be moved to "Infamous" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.152.209.139 (talk • contribs) 08:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Has anyone counted how many times he's been added and removed? Just curious. I understand he was an ethnic Serb born and raised in Croatia. As someone with no involvement in the issue, may I point something out? The title of the article says "Croatians". Many people would interpret that to mean "People from the country of Croatia". The article is not titled "List of Ethnic Croats". How about drafting an introductory paragraph to set the rules? Maybe if you define the rules, it would be easier to decide who belongs and who doesn't. Just a suggestion. Fan-196700:23, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
No dilemma about Tesla. Born in the Military Frontiers which was (taht time) under direct rule of the Viennese Court, moved out the Austro-Hungarian Empire before 1881 when the Military Frontiers was integrated into the Croatia and Slavonia Kingdom. Claiming such a nonsense is the same as to claim that Archimedes is an Italian due to the fact that his birthplace Siracuse is in today's Italy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.5.121 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
And I'll repeat, nothing in the article defines what is meant by "Croatian".
I get the impression that he is highly talented, and I strongly suspect he will become well-known worldwide. (OK, that's just my opinion, but I give some reasons if required).83.71.5.3219:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
This page needs thorough cleaning/filtering. Too many unimportant or not-so-important names. We don't have to list here every Croat on this world that exists or existed. Kubura08:37, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
1.During the www2 many Italian troops were situaed in Croatia. At the beginning of italian occupation, in the night 3rd/4th July 1941 Blackshirt troops from Split , assisted with armored escort of carabinieri destroyed almost all stores in Split . Reason: the owners rejected to change the store names from croatian into italian. Similar things that were happenning ex. in Germany Kristallnacht
2. Italian occupation of Istra has lasted unfortunately much longer. For the Slavic population it can be compared with Apartheid or Jewish destiny during Nazi regime. During the occupation of Istra all Slavophones had to italianize their names. Even the names on the graves were italianized. That was for more than 20 years of one of the worst fascist terror in the 20th century.
3. You forget that Nazis were your companions for 12 years. In fact Italians/Germans were inventors of fascism/nazism. So , do not give us a lectures about our history.
Even still today are being legally sold all the souvenirs of Duce and Fuhrer in Italy. Not in Croatia
Religion - Bishop Joseph James Potocnak - NOT A CROATIAN
I am the niece of Bishop Potocnak. My father is his brother. Both are alive; therefore, I know my heritage. Bishop Potocnak is 1/2 Ukrainian (Rusyn), 1/2 Slovakian. He is not a Croatian, nor does he consider himself one. He considers himself an Eastern European immigrant to the US because of his parents' background, but I know Croatia has NEVER been considered our land of origin. Please remove this as it is incorrect - and also unfair to the two countries to which he does associate himself. While I obviously consider this an indisputable fact as I am his niece, I will leave it to others to determine that. However, I'd like this changed as soon as possible. I would be happy to add the information under the other countries as well as a bio of my uncle.Winterlongone01:30, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
hahaha, you're lying, to the US?? Isn't he from South Africa? I've added him to the list along with the other bishops... Potocnjak is either Slovanian or Croatian, probably Slovenian tho, now that I think about it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cold water (talk • contribs) 05:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
No...I'm not lying. My uncle, who spells his name Potocnak (no j, please) may currently be a bishop *in* South Africa, but is not FROM South Africa. While he now reports directly to Rome, his initial association was Sacred Heart, US branch (Wisconsin - he went to seminary there). Potocnak is (according to my grandparents) Slovakian, *not* Slovenian. My uncle, in fact, was BORN in the US, in Pennsylvania to be exact. It is his parents who were the immigrants. His mother was Ukrainian (Rusyn), father Slovakian. Please take your ignorance and racism somewhere else, please.Winterlongone19:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
This article needs thorough cleaning up.
So many names that don't deserve to be here. I see (self)propaganda of anonimous persons. Kubura14:19, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Ivo Andric is born in Bosnia in a catholic family! Ivo Andric has never lived in Croatia, he spent his life writing books in Serbia, that is also where he recived his Nobel prize. Claiming that Ivo Andric is from Croatia is as stupid as claiming that Kim Il Sung is from Zimbabwe. Ivo Andric has also stated numerous times that he is in fact Serb.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Adnan22 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Adnan, read the article before you say something. Here's a scanned picture, where Ivo Andrić declared himself as a Croat (he did that part of his life). Is this enough? Kubura07:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
No it is not enough, Ivo Andric has nothing to do with croatia, he has never lived in croatia. As it says on the paper he is from Bosnia. Later on in life Ivo Andric has stated that he is serb. He has spent his life in Serbia, and later on stated that he is a serb. Bottom line is, he is born in Bosnia and not croatia. He is definetley not from croatia or a croatian national.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.214.204.91 (talk • contribs) 13:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Childish denying. Look at the evidence. He declared himself as Croat in one part of his life. But his family is Croat family. Live with that. Kubura18:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
No but rather nationalistic lies to decieve others. You do realise that many people in Bosnia and Serbia and hell even Slovenia call themselves Croats even though they DO not or have NEVER lived in Croatia? Explain to me why he chose to live his life in Serbia and not in his "homeland" croatia? Because he is NOT croatian, he could be croat but NOT croatian!
Can you people stop listing personalities who are not from croatia as famous croatian people? Marijan Benes is and has lived in Bosnia in the town of Banjaluka. He is a Bosnian catholic, you can come down to Banjaluka find the pub called "Nana" and ask Marijan Yourself! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adnan22 (talk • contribs) 14:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Oscar Nemon
Please can you change the sculptor Nemon Oscar to Oscar Nemon as his name is the wrong way round? Many thanks, Emma —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.3.130.151 (talk) 19:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC).
Johnny Mercer is not Croatian
Johnny Mercer is not Croatian. He himself was born in Savannah, Georgia, USA. His father's line is American for several generations. His maternal grandparents were Croatian immigrants, but his mother was American-born and a US citizen. Scott Johnson14:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
CAN SOMEONE REMOVE THE PICTURE OF TITO? WHY IS IT THAT OF ALL THE PEOPLE HE IS THE ONLY ONE WITH A PICTURE?
PLEASE REMOVE IT TO PRESERVE MY SANNITY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.105.136.42 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Add Zvonimir Berković
I propose adding Zvonimir Berković, film director, screenplay writer and university professor (See IMDB about Berković, or Misplaced Pages about Rondo, one of his films). He is also quite uncontroversial.
So far, I have added many names, and contributed greatly to this list, but because most of the names have been taken off, I just don't feel like continuing doing this. This list is pretty weird. There are many other celebrities with distant Croatian heritage that I've found, but don't feel like adding them here. I wish we had another site for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cold water (talk • contribs) 23:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
The German - US cinema director Werner Herzog
In some biographies is written that at least one of his parents were Croatians,it seems that his father.His real name is mentioned to be Werner Stipetic,if this is not a legend.Ewan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.139.47.229 (talk) 09:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't know who made this list but I can tell he made a terrible job. This list has too many mistakes, first of all Slavica Ecclestone, I don't know who the hell put her on the list because she is an ethnic Serb. This guy Dušan Vukotić is hardly a Croat, you just need to look at his name Dušan and if you have a brain you will understand that he is not a Croat. Branko Lustig is not a Croat but a Jew and he belong to the List of Jews list, the same thing is with David Schwarz. Strossmayer is a half-Croat and he should be removed from the list. Ivo Andrić isn't a Croat damnit, he declared as a Serb multiple times and he belongs to the List of Serbs. You should put on your list Svetozar Boroević von Bojna who was orthodox by religion but he declared as a Croat. Nina Morić and Saša,Tin i Kedžo, what can I say to that, they are not famous and I'm not sure that they are Croats. So this list needs some cleansing.Crabath (talk) 17:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Well I can say that this guy Svetozar Delić is a Serb. About Bojana Bijelić I can't say anything but her name sounds like a Serb name. Branislav and Branimir are not the same, have you ever seen a Serb named Branimir.
P.S. you can't be certain with names of people who lived were borned during YU because back then you could find a Serbian name on a Croat and the opposite (thing were fucked up).
But still some names are Serbian for sure like: Aleksandar, Pavle, Duško/Dušan, Boris...Crabath (talk) 13:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
