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User:Viper_Daimao is a unique user as demonstrated more than enough on his talk page. The sockpuppet witchunt has to stop. It's a distraction, it looks absurd on it's face, and it's just not relevent to the presented pre-RFAr behavior. The sockpuppets have not been used to violate 3rr repeatedly and intentionally, they have not voted. If they do exist, they are harmless. Let it go. Hipocrite - «Talk» 18:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Amen to that. Even if BD did use sockpuppets, there are far more serious things to consider than just that. --kizzle 19:45, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Agree with Kizzle, word for word. Jdavidb (talk) 20:16, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Ditto.Gator1 20:30, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree at this point. The back and forth has become more of a distraction than anything else, and I trust the arbitrators to sort everything out on their own. I'm glad editors sought to address the point, but we've probably reached diminishing returns now. · Katefan0 20:36, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Its the mark of a good troll that they can get people way too mad about things, and leads to overzealous pursuit like the Sockpuppet thing. I think that in the stuff on BD's talk page (just look at any of BD's edits on 10/4) he was actually trying to push people to excesses to support the idea that he was being persecuted. I'm not comfortable putting speculation as 'evidence' though. Windsagio 21:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Naturally, I disagree. And not for a second do I accept that User:Viper_Daimao is a unique user. The sockpuppets have been used to try to create a false sense of consensus on the Coulter page (and now the Workshop page), and that is why I think they're relevant. They're not as ironclad as diffs signed by BD777, but they're a distinct pattern nonetheless. I agree with Kate that "diminishing returns" have been reached. I'm done presenting the evidence, and I trust the administrators to use it or disregard it as they see fit. Eleemosynary 02:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Something I think we need to emphasize

I think we need to point out somewhere that even after this arbitration came about, he is STILL being belligerent. In other words, he's not trying to temper his words or make any attempt to collaborate with others. it's mentioned in several places, but I think we need to emphasize it somewhere. Most of this altering of posts thing has come after this process started. --Woohookitty 13:12, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Face it, you guys are screwed.

You tried to build a case against me but didn't have squat. Your only theoretical charge - incivility, can be matched post for post by my very accusers who, using obscentity, repeated harassment and false accusations, are easily just as guilty (to any objective observer) if not FAR more so. Ryan repeatedly accused me on Karl Rove of page 'vandalism' (as thoroughly documented by Paul Klenk) but didn't bring it up once here. Why not? You'd think with every burp and belch I've uttered in the last 30 days documented in 'evidence' Ryan would rush to accuse me of vandalizing the Karl Rove page. So why didn't she? Because it was a false charge.She darednot bring it up.

In fact, RyanFreisling's actions in that instance was a textbook example of true 'trollery' as the apparently troll-obsessed Ryan would put it. She edited my reasonable posts without explanation and then accused me of vandalism to provoke hostilty. For the record, that's an accurate definition of a troll. I provide this important informaton since you guys apparently don't have a clue. (From what I can tell, you think a troll is defined as 'any conservative who tries to edit Misplaced Pages.' Or is that a sockpuppet? I don't know, you're so all over the board, it's hard to keep up with what you mean anymore.)

So, you had no real evidence other than a rehashing of a laundry list of self-evident truths about liberals I posted that Mr.Tibbs who just MAGICALLY appeared out of nowhere when the witch hunt against me commenced (also pointed out by the astute Paul Klenk ) thinks is evidence. And of course, this laughable notion that I have not shown a willingness to collaborate with editors of all stripes is easily refuted with evidence I've collected and documented from both the Ann coulter and Karl Rove page as recently as this evening.

So here we have accusers, guilty of FAR MORE PROVABLE incidents of incivility, personal attacks and hostile discourse, not to mention Ryan's DOCUMENTED cases of true trollery that have nothing against me other than this vague 'He's so mean. He says we're all a bunch of liberals in here' charge trying to railroad me out of Misplaced Pages.

So, to beef up the case, you INVENTED OUT OF WHOLE CLOTH this myth of sockpuppetry even going so far as accuing Gator1 or being my sockpuppet and vandalizing both of our user pages.

You had me banned for THREE DAYS which is three times too long IF I was guilty but I was not nor ever have been.

Then you implicate and waste countelss hours of several OTHER COMPLETELY INNOCENT users forcing them to defend themselves against OUTRAGEOUS PARANOID DELUSIONAL FANTASIES from eelemosynnary that even the script writers at Matlock would have rejected for being too farfetched.

But, that's just the beginning. One of the 'fair' arbitrators got his hands all bloody with this mess listing IN EVIDENCE a completely bogus list of suspected sockpuppets and was later found to be discussing strategy about this case on eelmosynnary's OWN talk page. Now I know what you mean by 'collaborative effort.' (Not to mention Fred's cheap shot that I might be Ann Coulter, which in the hostile liberal culture that is Misplaced Pages is tantamount to saying I might be Adolf Hitler. Or, did you mean that as a compliment, Fred?)

Then something strange happens...everyone begins to realize a HORRIBLE mistake was made.

I didn't use sockpuppets.

Those guys in Texas and California or wherever were telling the truth. Even if one did work at Haliburton.

And all those other posters you accused me of being IN THE EVIDENCE PAGE no less- Barneygumble, Leonard Watson, PAGANviking - those were all FALSE allegations too. (Sheesh...You'd think at least ONE of you nuclear physicists would figure out I wouldn't use the name PAGANviking - but I'm sure that elemosynnary has a 'conspiracy theory' to explain that too. lol!) I never have ever used anything but my home comcast account (and a public library when on the road) to post here. Never been inside a Haliburton facility or gotten near one of their computers.

The whole thing was a sham.

Then fred bauder started doing this kabuki dance. All of a sudden, he' backing off the charges. Saying the results are ambiguous and using other weasel words to cover his rear.

But it was too late. The gig was up.

In your frenzied zeal to rid Misplaced Pages of me, you framed not only me but AT LEAST A HALF DOZEN innocent users, blocking them and their IP's.

Hippocrite was the first to get it. He realized the whole thing would unravel once people figured out these charges were bogus. He tried to warn you this hysterical story of me being at least six different people (a fable which elemosynnary still ascribes to) 'didn't matter.'

As time marched on and it begin to dawn on you that this house of cards built on quicksand was crumbling around you and in the process you completely smeared an innocent man along with several others, you began to try and DIVERT and DISTRACT from what you had just done.

And in the now completely-out-of-touch-with-reality state of mind you've driven yourselves too...all of this is apparently MY fault.

Think I'm kidding? Read this quote from user:

"Its the mark of a good troll that they can get people way too mad about things, and leads to overzealous pursuit like the Sockpuppet thing"

OK, I get it. I droveyou to it. lol!!!

Anyway, it's too late now. It's all been documented and no amount of spin can get the stain out.

Try as you might to censor me, the WHOLE WORLD has seen with their very eyes how in your hateful vengeful zeal you were willing to slander, smear and falsely accuse anybody in your path if they got in the way of destroying my reputation.

I was blocked ON SLANDEROUS CHARGES for three days. Others were blocked FOR NO reason for days. And you think you can just pretend this didn't happen and proceed with your witch hunt business as usual?

Every word you use beginning now to try and spin yourself out of this humongous FARCE THAT YOU CREATED will ring as hopelessly convuluted, delusional and absurd as eelemosynnarys increasingly incredulous stories of how I mastefully orchestrated this whole sockpuppet conspiracy.

For shame. For shame. For shame. This is truly a sad day in Misplaced Pages history. And the worst consequences are surely yet to comeBig Daddy 02:44, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Classic. -- RyanFreisling @ 04:01, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome to load as much pointed trollery at me as you'd like, I'm not playing your game and you won't get your kicks. -- RyanFreisling @ 04:06, 8 October 2005 (UTC)