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Deletion review for Security-As-A-Service
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Security-As-A-Service. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. UsaSatsui (talk) 07:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Replied, in numerous places, in numerous ways, with numerous people on numerous days. Kylu (talk) 04:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Deletion review for User:Losplad
An editor has asked for a deletion review of User:Losplad. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 16:02, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- Replied there too. Kylu (talk) 16:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
my error
sorry, but how could I have known? DGG (talk) 22:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- You couldn't have, I was just letting you know. :) Kylu (talk) 22:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
HELP ME PLEASE GOD!!!
I can't take this anymore, Im about to cry from this man PMDrive who wont stay off my talk page! He is now trying to seduce me with a coupon for a cookie or something! Please please!! I need your help this is the 4th time ive try to delete his message but he keeps posting new ones!! please help mee!! --Ryan Von (talk) 22:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think PMDrive meant it as an apology, but I've gone ahead and removed it. ...so, yeah. Kylu (talk) 22:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. Thanks to this little incident, I've been branded as a bully and as a stalker. Sheesh. Some things aren't worth the trouble and this kid (I assume that's what he is based on his reactions) is one of those things. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:51, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- Feces occur, y'know? As long as you know that you tried to do the right thing, don't let it bother you. Kylu (talk) 23:01, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. You are far too kind. I don't come here to cause trouble. When I was "Lucky 6.9," I had six features to my credit and a number of problematic users under my tutelage. I would give you a cookie in gratitude, but I'd hate like hell for you to get the wrong idea. :) Regards, --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think someone got tired of him. Maybe he should've eaten the cookie? Kylu (talk) 23:12, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Maybe. Good heavens. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- Kylu, I knew you were awesome, but you didn't tell me you are a god! wow. KillerChihuahua 23:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
LOL! I never thought of that! I, on the other hand, am extremely weary of this whole business, at least one established user is convinced that I'm some intolerant bully and my Sunday is waning fast. See you all later. :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Why has no-one ever called me God before? Kylu gets all the luck :-P Why aren't you so lucky anymore, PMDrive? --Kim Bruning (talk) 01:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, we divinities got sick of the whole being-prayed-to-for-idiotic-things, half-arsed sacrifices, mortals constantly digging at our true names, and general disrespect for our position, so ... you guessed it, we came to Misplaced Pages to edit. Sadly I've been found out... Kylu (talk) 01:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
re: the Tanoli RFD
Thanks for the offer but no, I do not want that redirect's history. I'll pull it out of the deleted-history myself if that ever becomes necessary.
I agree that the project is better off without that redirect but I do not think that you deleted it for the right reason. The "implausible typo" criterion for redirects only applies to redirects which were created as redirects, not to redirects created as a result of the pagemove process. The limitation is clear if you look at the discussion at WT:CSD around the time that new criterion was proposed.
This particular redirect was involved in a pagemove. The initial version of the page was deletable as a POV-fork (and since there were no substantive edits afterward, the subsequent versions inherited that deletion justification) but the "implausible typo" criterion should not have been used. The CSD process was approved by the community with the understanding that we admins would apply them only according to the strict and narrow definitions. When we stretch the CSD definitions, we are eroding the confidence that our community has in the core principles of consensus editing.
I apologize if I'm coming off as preachy. That is not my intent. I just feel very strongly that in the long term, how we do things here at Misplaced Pages will be as important as what we do here - and maybe more important...
Thanks for listening. Rossami (talk) 23:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- My opinion: If whatever action someone takes results in a better Misplaced Pages, it's the right action. Kylu (talk) 00:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- Your reply sounds dangerously close to "the ends justify the means". That is rarely a recipe for long-term success. Rossami (talk) 21:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm aware of Misplaced Pages:Process is important. It's an essay. Misplaced Pages:Ignore All Rules is policy, as is Misplaced Pages:Not. If you think that deleting a "POV-fork" redirect with no encyclopedic value (it's in the mainspace, remember, and we're to be picky about what we leave there for our readers) is going to destroy the project, I'd rather prefer to agree to disagree: I would prefer to not be repeatedly told I'm incorrect in the hopes that it will change my mind. Alternatively, I'm WP:0WW (not a wheel warrior), so feel free to go dig it out of deletion and send it through DRV like the two redirects above. Or just undelete it and let it sit. Or RfD it. I'm really, seriously, unconcerned about it at this point. Kylu (talk) 23:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- You are misunderstanding my concern. I do not think that your deletion of that page was in error. The project is definitely better off without that page. My concern was about the wording that you used when you explained the deletion. But I don't know how to express myself any better than I already have above. It is not my intention to argue and I also have no intention to wheelwar. Let me think on this for a while and maybe I will be able to express myself more clearly in a few days. Thanks for your patience. Rossami (talk) 03:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm aware of Misplaced Pages:Process is important. It's an essay. Misplaced Pages:Ignore All Rules is policy, as is Misplaced Pages:Not. If you think that deleting a "POV-fork" redirect with no encyclopedic value (it's in the mainspace, remember, and we're to be picky about what we leave there for our readers) is going to destroy the project, I'd rather prefer to agree to disagree: I would prefer to not be repeatedly told I'm incorrect in the hopes that it will change my mind. Alternatively, I'm WP:0WW (not a wheel warrior), so feel free to go dig it out of deletion and send it through DRV like the two redirects above. Or just undelete it and let it sit. Or RfD it. I'm really, seriously, unconcerned about it at this point. Kylu (talk) 23:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- Your reply sounds dangerously close to "the ends justify the means". That is rarely a recipe for long-term success. Rossami (talk) 21:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- CSD evolved from regular speedy deletion. The original policy was never truely removed.
- Consensus only works when the rules are negotiable and stretchy. If you apply rules strictly and narrowly, you get what is called a bureaucracy (a
rosemess by any other name... ;-) . Beware! --Kim Bruning (talk) 00:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
That's much more friendly
...thanks for changing that banner. Much more clear and friendly now. Particularly the smiley face. --UsaSatsui (talk) 04:10, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- I like to consider myself one of the most approachable, open-minded, and nicest admins on Misplaced Pages, and if anyone dares face me stating the opposite, I'll crush them! :D Kylu (talk) 08:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- Crush them in an approachable, open-minded, and nice way, of course? --UsaSatsui (talk) 08:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- Nah, I figure I already balanced the gag (approachable/dares to face me, open-minded/stating the opposite, nicest/crush them). Geddit? Kylu (talk) 16:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- Crush them in an approachable, open-minded, and nice way, of course? --UsaSatsui (talk) 08:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Username blacklist
Hadn't seen that yet - thanks for the pointer. Best, MCB (talk) 06:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
WP:Civil POV pushing
Hello. This essay has been copied and pasted to mainspace without its history page. The original essay was User:Raul654/Civil POV pushing. Could this be corrected? Many thanks, Mathsci (talk) 03:28, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Handled by Raul654 after a helpful anon pointed him to this page. Kylu (talk) 18:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Image attribution help
I'm trying to change the fair use rationale for an image (this one, I have no idea how to inline-link the image without actually posting it). It gives a fair use rationale for use in an article it's not in anymore...it got moved. I can't seem to figure out how to change that. Can you help? (the article it is used in is Sonic Adventure 2 --UsaSatsui (talk) 07:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Click "edit" for the summary section, change Article= from "Other villains in Sonic the Hedgehog (games)" to "List of recurring characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (games)". I've already done this, though. Kylu (talk) 18:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- I tried that, it didn't work. Looks fine now. Thank you, and thanks for the tip. --UsaSatsui (talk) 19:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Image Uploding process and Localized mediawiki icons.
Dear Kylu,
After the image copyright issue of UOC student I supposed to accelerate with Misplaced Pages image uploading process. So can we make a redirection to like thisprocess page when clicking upload file link. (Still it is not totally translated in to Sinhala). So we can abele to filter, discourage unnecessary uploads. By the way I have localized Mediawiki editing tool bar icons. Here is link which I have uploaded my labs’ wiki. I looking comments from you.
Best reguards
Asiri wiki (talk) 11:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Edit summary vandalism
Honestly, the big problem is the malware site links in the edit summaries. I've tried adding those to the spam blacklist, but it doesn't seem to work. Is this because the explanation field for a page move isn't considered an "edit summary"? If so, can this be fixed? This would take care of most of the issue for me. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 19:58, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Bot tool
See Misplaced Pages:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#Bot_Status_Tool — Rlevse • Talk • 13:03, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you, sir. I've always been slightly irked that bot status changes are over two different logs... perhaps we can have this fixed. Kylu (talk) 16:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- I hope so. It's really silly to have bots in one log and all else in another. We need one log, good filter. — Rlevse • Talk • 17:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Your Opinion
Hi Kylu, I want your opinion on whether to allow or not creation fo the pages, sontaining solely material from another website which allows to copy the material on the condition to acknowldge the source. I am against that. There is a user on gu.wiki, who is creating an article on how to write Gujarati Script, but what he is doing is just copying images from another free website and pasting them on the page, that's all. My suggestion to that person was to create articles with moral material, and where needed the material form other website shoudl only eb used as a resource. But he has ignored it and creating new pages after I deleted one. Before I give him warning, I wanted to know your view and what exactly is the Wiki's policy on such creation of pages. PLease have a look at gu:Learning_Gujarati_Script and advise. Please even go through our discussion here-- Dhaval 09:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- "You may freely copy these lessons on to your web site , for non commercial uses, add sound files or modify them in any way you want - but please do mention Ukindia in them" is incompatible with the GFDL that Misplaced Pages is published under, as we require that the material be usable for commercial purposes (such as our commercial mirror sites.) If you can get Ukindia to add another license (preferably GFDL 2.0 or better) to the material, Misplaced Pages can use the material. Attribution isn't a problem, however, as long as the copy-pasting editor mentions the source. I would probably suggest making a html-commented note on the page as well as adding the mention in the edit summary, so the attribution is in the edit history. Sadly, my Gujarati isn't as good as my Devnagali or Sinhalese, so I can't read much more. Kylu (talk) 17:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
SUL accounts
Yep, this is Jarlaxle/Grawp's new game. I've already asked for CU help -- thanks! NawlinWiki (talk) 02:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- BTW, how are you seeing these? They're not showing up on the new users log. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'll email you the details. :)
- You'd think Jeremy would get bored of this by now. I know he lives in a small town, but fapping to posting penis pictures on public wikis is a bit disturbing. We could take up a collection to hire him a local shrink, maybe? Kylu (talk) 02:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Pages to be delete in Sinhala Misplaced Pages
Dear Kylu,
After doing quick survey,I have found and listed some Unencyclopedic,meaningless name spaces and to be redirect articles in Sinhala Misplaced Pages. And also found one naughty IP address which is added unusual contents to Sinhala Misplaced Pages :) So I can manage redirections and disambiguate articles in my best. So can you kindly consider listed articles which are To be Delete. My Work House @ Sinhala Misplaced Pages
Thank you
Best
--Asiri wiki (talk) 12:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Replied there, thanks. :) Kylu (talk) 01:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey Kylu
You know what's sad? I remember you from back when I supported you in your RfA. :D
Anyway, the reason for my visit: how in heck do you rename images? Three of us have questions here about it. :) Thanks a bunch! —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 20:06, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Why's that sad? Anyway, I answered over there. It's not the answer I'd like to give, but perhaps someone else will be willing to host MMB for this. Kylu (talk) 22:53, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's sad that I actually remember voting for you. :)
- Hopefully!
- Thanks for the quick reply to clear that up. Cheers! —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 01:19, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- It wasn't that long ago, was it? :) Kylu (talk) 02:19, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
IRC canvassing
I'm not sure if this was directed at me, but if it was you should note that I in fact stated on IRC that I strongly disagree with his actions noted at that ANI report. — neuro 04:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, it was "directed" at anyone who would try to canvass support on IRC. While IRC is (IMO) a useful tool, it's far too easy to abuse in this way. I think the question you're actually wondering is, though, "Is it my action on IRC that caused you to state this on ANI?" The answer is, no, it was someone else's action. HTH HAND TTFN. Kylu (talk) 02:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi,kylu
Hi.I am Jacky from zh wikipedia.I suspect that a user msuker controlled a IP user and help msuker in a vote.I hope you may help check them whether they have connection, and the checking can be done as soon as possible, thank you--JackyCheung (talk) 10:46, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- I noted your post at Meta:Steward requests/Checkuser#zh:user:msuker and 74.206.236.244. The stewards will review the case from that page. Kylu (talk) 02:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Re:Your pending Checkuser access
I have sent a Driver's License to secure-info@wikimedia.org. Is it ok? Any trouble contact me. Thank you very much.--Carlosar (talk) 00:27, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
You wrote:
Dear Carlosar:
In accordance with the Board Resolution:Access to Non-Public Data, we require acknowledgment and proof of identity and evidence of age of majority prior to enabling access to secure and sensitive information. This proof may be provided in one of the following manners:
1. ) Copy or scan of Driver's License. 2. ) Copy or scan of Passport. 3. ) Copy or scan of other official documentation indicating real name and age.
This may be provided to us in one of the following manners:
1. ) via email to secure-info@wikimedia.org
- Thanks. I'll poke Cary to check the queue. :) Kylu (talk) 00:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
infinant cocanuts
the prices would not drop to nil because we only have access to those on earth! (I prefer pineapple ;P) TheCiscoKid Talk to me 22:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- Whenever one of the ones on Earth is removed, the space would be filled with one of the coconuts from above. While it's turtles all the way down, it's coconuts all the way up. Kylu (talk) 02:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Question
Are you an administrator? AdirondackMan (talk) 03:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yep, just checked. For some reason they haven't punted me from the corps yet, though I do prefer to think of us as editors first, miscellaneous buttons we collect second. Kylu (talk) 05:08, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Sarah Palin
In the event you're here to request unprotection of Sarah Palin, please do so at WP:RFPP. I do not favor any specific revision of the page and am concerned only for the WP:BLP policy and the well-being of our servers. If you see BLP-violating content, I'll remove it from the protected version, but that's it. Otherwise, please discuss changes on the article talkpage and develop a consensus for the changes before poking the kind people who work WP:RFPP. Thanks. Kylu (talk) 06:40, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, Kylu - would you consider changing the move protection to "indefinite"? I can't imaging any valid reason to move the page, and the article has been the target of Grawp move vandalism in the past. No quibbles from me on the edit protection. Kelly 21:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Done btw. Kylu (talk) 05:07, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, Kylu! Kelly 05:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- Done btw. Kylu (talk) 05:07, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
DRV request
Hi Kylu. There now is a request at DRV to create a disambiguation page at Adult-child sex. You protected the page back on 27 January 2008. It would help that discussion to know the reasoning behind your protection of that page (e.g. for any and all purposes or was it only in furtherance of enforcing the DRV decision). Please consider commenting at DRV. Thanks. -- Suntag ☼ 01:26, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Not really, couldn't care less about the page honestly. Any admin is free to undo the protection as long as it conforms to community consensus though. I would highly suggest reading the (tl;dr) prior AFD regarding the matter first. Have a nice day! Kylu (talk) 01:30, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
92.40.219.55
Hi Kylu, hello, and this is the first time i use the wiki . .
How do you characterise a supposedly automated edit which removes:
"Often he introduces himself as "Paul Ro, bottomfeeder; drug dealing low-life.""
as to a bio?
do you have any reference for that?
or a address for service?
maybe i just miss something, but i have been keeping a screenshot and file print of everything i have written so far..
Happy to talk to you "offline"
- j
- I'd characterize it as a "good edit". That sort of information, even if accurate, needs to be backed up by reliable sources before it's added to a biography. See also our biographies of living persons policy. Thanks for your concern. Kylu (talk) 03:48, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
RE: MediaWiki namespace edits
I have replied at my talk page. — Aitias // discussion 17:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Once again. :) — Aitias // discussion 21:15, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Convo archived at User_talk:Aitias/archive_2#MediaWiki_namespace_edits Kylu (talk) 06:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Google Home gadget
The latest sad interface design from Kylu Toolserver Labs:
RSS feed reader gadgets for your Google Home page!
see the half-assed tool on toolserver that lets you add Meta or English Misplaced Pages feeds, straight to you!
...yeah, so anyway. Have fun. Kylu (talk) 23:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Welcome
Welcome to Misplaced Pages Hello, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like it here and decide to stay. Someone using this IP address has made unhelpful edits, which have been reverted. If you did this, in the future please try to contribute in a more constructive manner. If you did not do this, you may wish to consider getting a username to avoid confusion with other editors. You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Misplaced Pages, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and there are many benefits of having a username. Without a username, your IP address is used to identify you. If you need help see:
Here are a few more good links for newcomers:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and timestamp. If you need help, check out Misplaced Pages:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place Again, welcome! Wiikkiiwriter (talk) 10:58, 23 January 2009 (UTC) |
Talkback
Hello, Kylu. You have new messages at Wiikkiiwriter's talk page.You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Im sorry for sending wrong template to wrong user haha cheers! Wiikkiiwriter (talk) 11:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of that so quick!
Appreciated, Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 06:24, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- De nada. Kylu (talk) 07:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Your election page
See Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight elections/February 2009 — Rlevse • Talk • 01:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
The Riftware Cycle page
Thank you for correcting my mistake on that page. Would you agree that a redirect to the authors page would be a better redirect than the redirect to just the page about the first series in the complete saga?
It appears from the discussion on the authors page that an article on The Riftwar Cycle is in the works, but not yet published. So just asking for that page to be deleted might not be a good idea.
Thoughts and opinions appreciated.
Mercenary Roadie (talk) 15:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Brandon Smith
You fully-protected Brandon Smith after its deletion (to prevent recreation) a year ago in January 2008. I was wondering if you could now either unprotect or semi-protect the article so that a disambiguation page can be created for the three other Brandon Smiths who now have articles. Thanks, —97198 (talk) 07:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Done Kylu (talk) 07:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks again. —97198 (talk) 10:13, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Article on GloMoSim
Plz restore this article, as GloMoSim is a widely used research tool for wireless networking research. Check this for verification Quality check 07:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- If you want it restored before Kylu returns, try WP:DRV, though I suspect she'd be happy to restore it to your userspace. 207.145.133.34 (talk) 17:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Done, response at your talkpage. Kylu (talk) 02:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Breyti Að nota Spotify
For Christ sake!!!!! I have been spending 12 hours on this project because you, a web agent, or whoever... have been deleting my work!!!
This is a part of an assignment I’m doing at Reykjavik University, and it is to be finished today. I got this link from my teacher, and I don’t give a dam what language it is in. It is now 6 in the morning and I’m fed up and going to sleep!!
Please leave it until it is graded by my teacher, and then do whatever you like with it. 06:04, 8 February 2009 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.73.144 (talk • contribs)
- You're putting English encyclopedia text on an Icelandic book source. I'll be blunt: We're not your free web-hosting provider. If you want them saved so badly, go visit scribblewiki or editthis.info and host them there instead, please. If the content gets deleted again, perhaps consider putting it someplace else. Kylu (talk) 06:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
admin. request
Hi! I am administrator ko.wikia. and want to be admin. for wikipedia also. do yo have any procedure to promote.
user:PauloHelene
Retrieved from "http://meta.wikimedia.org/User_talk:Kylu"
- You want to ask at ko:위키백과:관리자 instead. Kylu (talk) 05:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Repeated removal of the section I wrote for Dead Sea Scrolls article
Hello, I would like to know what I should do with respect to IsraelXKV8R's repeated removal of the section I added to the Dead Sea Scrolls article, dealing with an important ongoing controversy involving the Scrolls in which he happens to be involved.
I understand that if I continue to put the section back in, I will be blocked, and if he keeps removing the section, he will be blocked.
I have tried discussing the matter with him, but he simply repeats his claims (which are not true) that I'm connected with some sockpuppet thing here at NYU apparently dating from two years ago and that the section is "tangential."
Therefore, it seems to me that he is simply exercising a veto over my section, because if I put it back in he will immediately take it out and then we will be blocked, which seems to be all very fine with him as long as the section isn't in the article, because he instantly removes it as soon as I put it back in.
I wish to protest against this outright nullification of the section I wrote, by a single individual who is involved in this controversy. By this token, no information about a controversy can be included in a wikipedia article, because someone involved can always simply remove it over and over again.
I would like to know if the section I added can be included in the article and blocked, which would at least oblige IsraelXKV8R to have a civil discussion of the section's contents and of its claimed "tangential" nature. I am not an irrational person; if he is right he should be able to convince me and others, or at least come to a compromise about how the section should read (rather than tyrannically eliminating it altogether as he keeps doing).
This is very frustrating for me, as I added this section in good faith and tried to write it in a proper way, without "promoting" anyone's views. I don't see how anyone can be allowed to simply remove information of this sort without any rational discussion of its contents. If IsraelXKV8R isn't happy with the section, he should suggest changes to make, rather than remove what I've written without any further ado.
Yours truly, Rachel.Greenberg (talk) 01:36, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
- Replied to you both on the article talkpage. You two really do need to either develop a resolution on your own, or seek a dispute resolution option, before the case is serious enough that someone does something drastic. I'd rather not see two intelligent contributors blocked. :( Kylu (talk) 02:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)