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Routebox and Shields

I think the Routebox template would look better if the shields led the text. Scaling the shield images down to 20 px looks good, however the article for Interstate 84 has them at 30 px. I've also tried them at 25 px, which may be a good compromise. I also like the layout for the Routebox currently used on the article for Interstate 5.

There should also be some attempt to standardize the appearance of Interstate shields in terms of size, color and font. From what I've seen so far, there seem to have been two main sources of Interstate shields: versions initially uploaded by Denelson83 in May of 2004, and the larger, darker versions uploaded by Kamlung last month. Both sources claim the shields to be the work of the U.S. federal government. Many shields have been replaced with Kamlung uploads, but many Interstates are still using the Denelson83 uploads. I think the shields uploaded by Kamlung are of higher quality, more readable, and more aesthetically pleasing. His source should be identified, and the rest of the Interstate shields on Misplaced Pages should be updated with this model. -- Fogger 01:50, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I never noticed the size of the shields, but you have a valid point. As far as the standardization, there is sometimes a reason why they aren't. Take I-4. The whole thing is in Florida, so why not use the full shield, since it isn't showing partiality to any state. However, I was actually recently wondering how to go about making a shield for a 3di (they don't all have them)... PS: I never noticed a difference between the sheilds, with the exception of state names. --Chris 02:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Because of the size concerns I'd use 20px... but yeah there's a lot of things nonstandard about the routeboxes, especially with Interstate 5. For example, should the mileposts say "Oklahoma 185" or "OK 185"? What is a major junction? Some routeboxes have no images for each individual junction as well. Hmm... --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs - count) 01:31, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I was starting to write a standard on this before the routeboxes came up. I'm sticking with 20px (File:Interstate94.png I-94) for 2dis and 25px (File:Interstate-294.png I-294) for 3dis on my pages. The goal is to have the numbers be the same size. That said, I also need someone to make PNG versions of Illinois state shields... my current source is pretty good but the 3dis aren't correctly sized. --Rob 14:21, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Out of curiosity (and so I can make some), what is your source? --Chris 23:16, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

This place: Rick's Highways Page. Contains more about Illinois State Highways than you would ever have cared to know about, and still a good "original source" type website. --Rob 01:07, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Helpful

I found this site hlepful. http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/programadmin/interstate.html

elevations and grades on the nation's Interstate Highways

There is a need, on this site, both for truckers and those of us who travel in recreation vehicles, for a linear chart which shows highway elevations (in feet) and grades (%) for the entire Interstate system.

You mean for each individually? If you or anyone else wants to put all of that on here, it's fine with me, but I'm not going to. Though perhaps the maximum grade (I'm guessing there is one as part of the Interstate standard) should be listed in the Interstate highway article. Besides, wouldn't the maximum grade be fine for trucks? The Interstate highway system was designed to be fine for trucks; one of the purposes back in the 1950's or whenever was military. --Chris 00:40, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

USGS arial photos

Are they public domain? --Chris 02:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes. Template:PD-USGov-USGS. dbenbenn | talk 00:11, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. --Chris 16:14, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Categories

Should the categories called Category:Interstate highways in California be renamed to Interstate Highways in California? See Talk:List of California State Routes/Archive2 for the why. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 02:51, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

How about Californian members of the Interstate Highway System or something? That way, it could be capitalized without dispute. But it's a bit too long. I just read that thing. The whole thing seems so dumb. Does it really matter how it's capitalised? --Chris 05:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Well yes since U.S. Highway 101 is an interstate highway... it goes in between 2 states. However, it is not an Interstate. Also Interstate 16 is not an interstate highway, but it is an Interstate Highway. But this is the most controversial thing I have ever done on Misplaced Pages. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:11, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

MUTCD/SHS and the interstate shields on wikipedia

This is really wierd, but the sign I came up with by following SHS exactly leads me to have a 3di sign that looks like this File:Interstate-469.png. You'll notice that the word INTERSTATE is much bigger on that than on the others. (File:Interstate-287.png, File:Interstate-684.png, etc) SHS says to use type E writing for 3dis. It appears that most of the other 3di signs on wikipedia use the type C, which is what ought to be used for 2dis. It's not a big deal; I just want to make sure that I am correctly interpreting SHS (I can't seem to find an example 3di shield anyplace in MUTCD; the dimensions are just listed beneath those for a 2di shields in M1-1.)

By the way, I plan to make signs with state names by using the dimensions from M1-2 and M1-3 (except P, which will change for each state). There doesn't really seem to be any mention of using state names in SHS, but MUTCD section 2D.11 clearly states that: "Interstate Route signs may contain the State name in white upper-case letters on a blue background.", so it is certianly OK; there just doesn't seem to be any official way of doing it. Therefore, I'll be just replacing the words LOOP and SPUR; since those are placed similarly.

As far as H201 (I mentioned it earlier.), it seems that the official shield is just a 3di shield with B lettering since "H201" won't fit as C.

I'd really appreciate your thoughts on the above. I could simply be misinterpreting the SHS book. --Chris 23:35, 25 November 2005 (UTC)