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Revision as of 03:35, 28 November 2005 by Chriswaterguy (talk | contribs) (change to Singapore/Batam bit)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)The charge that Cuba is encouraging the sex trade is a political one that has no basis in fact, according to sociology professor Nelson Valdes:
Further, by defining sex tourism to include only travel from wealthy to poorer countries, the raging legal sex trade of the US state of Nevada is covered up. --Jose Ramos 21:05, 18 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Excuse me, nobody said in this article that Cuba (or any other country) was encouaging the sex trade; no country would be that stupid. In fact the Cuban government has done much (although with limited success) to try to curtail/discourage sex tourism within its borders.
However, the sex trade *IS* rampant there, I can personally attest to that! <g>
Don't even get me started on that wacko leftist rag that you are quoting as fact! This is not the proper forum to espouse your political agenda. Select a more widely accepted publication, and maybe everyone here won't think you're a crackpot.
Now, as for the "raging" sex trade in Nevada.... Cover up?? Please!
A couple of overpriced brothel "ranches" in the middle of the desert do not qualify as a "raging" sex trade. Only the Donald Trumps and Bill Gates of the world could count Nevada as a sex tourist destination (and it would still be a poor one at that!) Chances are some of those girls in Nevada make more than most of us!
A sex worker in Thailand or Cuba earning $50 a day is doing well!!
Sorry, but when I see stupidity, I must rant...
- Yes, because CLEARLY no one goes to Las Vegas to take advantage of the direct-to-your-hotel-room "escorts" whose brightly colored advertisements are handed to you as you walk down the strip. Prostitution may not be technically legal in Vegas, but the ban against it is not enforced -- perhaps because sex tourism is a big part of what drives the LV economy. -- Lottelita 19:32, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Prostitution exists everywhere, by your definition then ALL cities everywhere should be on this list. There isn't enough room, and honestly isn't in the spirit of giving anyone any real USEFUL information. I've been to Vegas, I've also been to Bangkok, Rio, Havana and several other places on the list; there really is NO comparison. I'm not here to argue however, you want Nevada on this list FINE; but I'm certainly not going to leave it at the TOP of this list where you (or someone) decided to place it.--Oarias 03:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Let me try to explain my rationale on this a bit better... Suppose Kris Kringle (living in the North Pole) decides to go somewhere warmer for summer vacation. He may very well pick Alaska, which to HIM is a warmer location. (Alaska would be the "Las Vegas" in your argument.) Now Kris could go online and think "Wow, I saw a complete lack of snow in Anchorage last summer." and therefore decides to add Anchorage, Alaska to a list of "popular destinations to enjoy warm weather". While from his perspective, he is right; from a GLOBAL perspective he is dead wrong. Trust me, as a die-hard whore monger I would love nothing more than to have a REAL "sex tourist" destination here in the US. There are many factors that define a good "sex tourist" destination as seen from a GLOBAL perspective, of these factors "legality" is probably the LEAST important. Prostitution is "technically" illegal in MOST sex tourist destinations (Thailand, Cambodia, etc). Zero enforcement in these countries helps, but it goes beyond that. Price, attitude (of the women), exotic location make up the bulk of the rest of the reasons these places are popular with the mongers. Las Vegas and Amsterdam do not have these reasons. Las Vegas probably has the lowest "bang for your buck" factor of any POSSIBLE sex tourist destination. If I want to drink, gamble, watch Wayne Newton, or pay $300 for a 30 minute "session" in my hotel room with a mean-spirited plastic-injected 30 something barbie doll then absolutely I want to go to Vegas. If I want to spend $30-$50 for a full night of the best sex ever with a beautiful, natural woman who knows no clock and still wants to be with you after the sun rises then I go to Thailand. --Oarias 03:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Would Amsterdam be a good country to add to the list of popular destinations for sex tourism? -- Lottelita 19:32, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
A better choice than Nevada, but only marginally so. If your not a sex monger you wouldn't understand this. See my previous message. --Oarias 03:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
National preferences. This is mostly written with regard to Western and I presume north American preferences, does anyone have anything useful to add about Japanese sex tourism. I'd like to add something about Japanese sex tourism and sex tour groups to China (basically your run of the mill coach trip but with sex laid on). However I don't know if it would be just pure jingoism on the part of the Chinese press, to believe that another motivation for Japanese sex tourism to China, is the desire to humiliate the Chinese(in a notorious case a tour coincided with the annivesary of the beginning of the Japanese invasion of China).Cetot 07:51, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
"American men are also known to travel to developed countries such as Canada, the United Kingdom " Is there really any evidence of this? I don't believe the UK is considered a sex tourist destination, especially as brothels are illegal, and London is a famously expensive place. 213.122.164.123 15:24, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I removed that line as, as far as I know, that prostitution is illegal in these countries, while the line seems to imply otherwise. Zhatt 22:13, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
- Prostitution itself is legal in Canada and in the UK, however several surrounding activities are illegal. But I agree: there's defintely no significant sex tourism from the US to either of those countries. AxelBoldt 04:03, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Singapore & Batam
Singapore has no such law, in spite of being adjacent to the sex tourism destination of Batam in Indonesia.
I deleted this line and it was added back in... does it seem kinda out of place or random to anyone else?
- When deleting, please put a reason in the Edit Summary. Also, please sign your comments.
- I wrote the line, and I agree it needs work. But being incomplete is better than not being there. Other Wikipedians can add other examples that they know of, and/or I will add more information as I'm able to.
- The issue I believe deserves to be highlighted. Singapore I think is unusual in being adjacent to the child sex tourism destination. Thus a law in Singapore targeting child sex would be particularly significant. However I welcome alternative views.
- Another reason I wasn't inclined to take your edit seriously is that you, or someone using your IP address, has made a habit of vandalizing Misplaced Pages articles (e.g. "Lee the bastard").
- If you wish to contribute, please do so, but 1. do it in a constructive way, 2. fill in the edit summary, and 3. preferably create an account.
Thanks for your suggestions, I will post comments in, and sign my comments on talk pages.
Please, include the info about Batam as a CHILD PROSTITUTION DESTINATION, that is not how the article reads now.
- I've changed it to:
- It might be getting off the track a bit, although I believe the information is relevant.
I have no idea what you are reffering to about my IP address, here is my contrib list: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Contributions&target=69.107.52.142
Please let me know what you are refferencing.
- In that case I'll accept that I made an error. (I looked at the IP address of the user who removed the line, which was 202.156.6.54, and viewed some of the edits at random... but I may have clicked the wrong thing, and in any case you're obviously being reasonable about this question). --Singkong2005 03:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
btw, I have made an account and you'll see me around as Devalover peace 69.107.95.35 07:02, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- Great. When you sign, use four tildes (the wavy symbol) to sign, then it links to your user page. Or just use the button above the edit box, second from the right. --Singkong2005 03:29, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
sex worker "work ethics?"
Does this sentence make sense to anyone as a motive for sex tourism: preferring the "work ethics" of foreign prostitutes to those of one's own country
Devalover 07:12, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- Yes. Work ethic is a polite way of saying "they love you long time". - RoyBoy 16:26, 27 November 2005 (UTC)