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Masks

Well, now that I've made a more indepth mask section, can I delete the previous one, or is mine a bit too much?

The previous section probably shouldn't be completely deleted. I combined the two for now.--Matteh 01:32, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

10 feet tall?

This may be slightly unimportant, but I don't think the Fierce Diety mask makes Link 10 feet tall, this is an exaggeration. The Fierce Diety mask uses a similar player model to that of adult Link in Ocarina of Time, and adult Link isn't that tall!

While the Fierce Deity model is based on the Adult Link one in shape, its size is in fact much larger. Try standing next to a wall with brick work (so you have horizontal lines) such as in the room for Odalwa, the first boss, and change from Link's various forms into FD and you will notice quite a difference. He is more than twice as tall as Link, and considerably taller than Zora Link. However 10 foot is, as far as I am aware, just an estimation, and I shall reword the info for the mask and a couple of others. Ian Moody 14:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Well, if we guesstimate that Adult Link was 6ft, and Fierce Deity is even bigger as mentioned, 10 foot may not be far off, but it should be changed, not because it "sounds" wrong (a 10-ft-high person, out of context, sounds exaggerated) but since there is no unrefutable ingame proof. What would be nice is if someone with the *coughemulatedcough* game could make a screenshot montage with Child Link and Oni Link side by side, to show users the height difference. Heck, a height guesstimate could be made using that by counting the pixels!
So if someone could make that and make it fit nicely on the page, it would probably be very helpful. In the meantime I'll see if I can get my hands on the Oni Link promotional art I saw a while back. Master Thief Garrett 11:08, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
My bad, it's gone now. But even so a comparison shot could be nice. Master Thief Garrett 11:25, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
As a side note, everything in cyberspace has no height at all. Absolutely none. IF things had size, computers would be huge.

Oath to Order/Ode of Order

Are there versions of the game that display this song in the inventory as "Ode of Order"? I just checked my version (Zelda Collector's Edition, Gamecube) and it clearly shows "Oath to Order" after it's played and in the inventory. I found an N64 screenshot showing "Oath to Order" here. Jh51681 09:59, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Not having the actual game, I relied on various hint/cheat sites to verify the correct word. I (and they) could definitely be wrong for at least some games. Maybe we should replace 'Ode' with 'Ode/Oath'? Silas Snider (talk) 04:06, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)
They could be mistranslations or older versions, but I'm not sure which. A Google search for Zelda "Oath to Order" shows 600+ links, while Zelda "Ode of Order" shows only two, one of which is a dupe of this article. Jh51681 04:50, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Sometimes games (not necessarily Zelda) are revised for a different region, changing words if they are "wrong" in that region. So say a game mentioned aluminum, it'd probably be changed to aluminium for non-US countries. However I don't think Oath/Ode would be inapplicable in ANY English-speaking country...
There was some de-religion-ising in revised versions of OOT (removal of Muslim symbol, alteration of song based off Muslim chant, etc.) so it could be that this game too had content changed. Maybe someone thought "Ode" alluded to praying to/singing to a god or something like that, I don't know.
So one of those is possibly the answer. You could always ask at the 1964 emulator forum or something, and I'm sure they'd tell you which ROM revisions featured it, and whether or not it had been altered for the GC versions. Master Thief Garrett 11:22, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Lack of Screenshots

It'd be nice if someone could take some shots of the game, preferably with your console hooked to the computer through a TV tuner (although, a rom would be an alright alternative). :3 -- A Link to the Past 23:25, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

Emulated screenshots are the purest and the ideal, as long as the game is run at original resolution (640x480?) and with all enhancements (Super2xSaI, antialiasing, etc.) turned off.
Alternately, using unwatermarked press pack screenshots would be fine, but of course then it's limited to only what Ninty screenshotted. Garrett 23:36, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
What about the TV tuner idea? I mean, if it could be done, shouldn't it be done as such? -- A Link to the Past 00:10, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

What is Zelda Gaiden??

"Gaiden" means "sidestory" (approximately) in Japanese. It was the development title for Majora's Mask. (It is, after all, a sidestory.) Setokaiba 07:30, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Wasn't THe Legend of Zelda Gaiden originally for the 64DD as an expansion for the Ocarina of Time, (like the Ura Zelda), Zelda Gaiden, would include a different overworld and a new adventure. And the project was cancelled due to the lack of popularity of the 64DD, Nintendo decided just to make Zelda Gaiden a stand alone game the Majora's Mask. And the Ura Zelda was added to a special 'Master Quest' for Gamecube.

This website would explan it better http://www.japan-101.com/video_games/ura_zelda.htm

Interesting intentions

I may be twenty-four years old, but I am currently playing Majora's Mask, and due to this, I have attained knowledge that I am positive will be informative and rewarding to this article. Also, I am a Wikipedian who contributes to articles that eventually receive featured article status, this desire coming from improving Misplaced Pages on a daily basis. This is a campaign I have started outside Misplaced Pages boundaries. So first and foremost, this article should begin citing its sources and references. --Hollow Wilerding 14:51, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

I can't see what references or sources one would need to add or cite (except maybe the EGM award, one can cite where they found that information). The Wikipedians probably wrote this entire article on their own, from their own knowledge of the game. I, myself, know enough about the game to write an article like this one. -- RattleMan 15:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Some of what you have edited thus far is...somewhat odd. For one, you erased the "Fixed 3d|3D" pipe, so now it just says "Fixed 3d", which looks bad. Second, on the Ocarina Songs, you decapitalized all the first letter after the &mdash-es. They need to be caps. That's what I found so far by skimming your edits. Other parts you changed look good so far. -- RattleMan 16:16, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
"3D" is unnecessary, as it is too vague compared to "Fixed 3d", which gives the reader a better vision of the game's appearance. Also, the "caps lock on the first letters" is not true standard English, but your point will not be ignored, as it does make some sense. Now on to the issue with references: if no references are added to the article, then it will not be able to achieve featured status. Looking at the article as a whole right now, I would add references for what is presumed in the game, like the fact that the beginning of the game could be located in the Lost Woods. There should also be a reference of the storyline, for readers (and whiny Wikipedians) not to assume that we have made it up. Believe me, I had a friend who went through the featured article process, and it was no walk in the park for her. You might want to check out Mariah Carey, where practically every line is being referenced. --Hollow Wilerding 17:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
I have accomplished excessive editing and removed the "Trivia" section from the article, which is better suited for a fan site or something along the lines of that. I will be seeking references and hope to finish the article in time for a nomination in the near future. --Hollow Wilerding 17:53, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Good luck. I'll give the article a look-over and see if I can do anything with it. -- RattleMan 18:40, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know where I can access images from the video game? I'm quite stumped with internet locations (regrettably). --Hollow Wilerding 14:02, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
I have located a minimal number of images. --Hollow Wilerding 20:33, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
What images do you still need? I can try to get some. -- RattleMan 20:57, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
An image of Deku Link would be admirable — since the main character spends the beginning of the game in this form, I find it rather acceptable for its presence. If that can't be found on the internet, then perhaps an image of one of the side characters (Romani, Anju, Kafei, Gorman, etc.) or one of the landscape to exhibit Termina's soils and grounds. Then there's the greedy me who would prefer both. Those are just my suggestions, but I do think that they would add the most variety. --Hollow Wilerding 00:50, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Here's some images that I got, some of them have bad brightness, but whatever...:

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5382/smaskusnap00901ru.jpg - Majora, Tatl and Tatl

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/589/smaskusnap00913yc.jpg - Deku Link with Tatl

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/73/smaskusnap00920cl.jpg - Deku Link in light

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6822/smaskusnap00938do.jpg - Deku Link on Deku Flower

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6215/smaskusnap00959vz.jpg - Deku Link Horror Reflection

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2228/smaskusnap00969xn.jpg - Deku Link 3rd Day Clocktower Battle

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/6835/smaskusnap01018vk.jpg - Termina Field (botched sun for some reason)

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2585/smaskusnap00985sn.jpg - Deku Link in Tatl's Light

"Deku Link on Deku Flower" amuses me; do you have the copyright information, RattleMan? --Hollow Wilerding
I believe it's {{game-screenshot}}. -- RattleMan 00:00, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Good, good. Should I add it to any particular place in the article? --Hollow Wilerding 23:27, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
The copyright? When you upload the image to Misplaced Pages, you insert the "{{game-screenshot}}" in the upload summary. -- RattleMan 02:36, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I was not clear enough: where should I add the image to the article? --Hollow Wilerding 21:16, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Anywhere you want, I'm just supplying the images :) -- RattleMan 21:56, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
History has been made: the image has been added! What else should the article include? --Hollow Wilerding 02:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
The new image of Zora Link playing the guitar is preferrable — much thanks, RattleMan. Are there any other adjustments we should make to the article? I still recommend references; if we do not include any, then the article will be turned down in the blink of an eye at featured article nomination time. –Hollow Wilerding 19:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm going to submit this article to Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates — although I am positive that it will not succeed in its first attempt, whenever one wants a review of the article that will be useful to enhancing it, that's the place to go. Not peer review. Peer review is useless, if you ask me. —Hollow Wilerding 13:30, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I've upgraded the article substantially, although I still do not feel as though it is prepared for featured article candidates, however, I am not hesitant on submitting it. Any ideas or input? —Hollow Wilerding 14:37, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
A useful peer review has resulted to the request I made at Misplaced Pages:Peer review. I am rather impressed, since this is rarely the case. The article has improved substantially with the comments made, and I'll be addressing a few more headers and knick-knacks before I submit Majora to Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates. —Hollow Wilerding 14:23, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
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