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Country Box

I think it will fan the flames of the discussion, especially as regards "Capital" etc. Personally, I don't think it is a problem, but I try to approach things from a more balanced perspective. Perhaps I should have phrased my sentence more carefully on the talk page--sorry. -- Avi (talk) 14:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Illinois apology

Thanks. I know that your governor has had a lot on his plate so I wasn't expecting an official apology but it is nice to have it now. I was actually surprised that there was an article on the pilot. I was expecting to only link the incident article but it didn't mention Illinois whereas his article did.

I would rally Canadians to defend that article. But a big group like that might look suspicious and someone could drop a bomb on us so I'll just stay out of it.

But it really is surprising how defensively nationalistic people can be on WP. I mentioned once that Paisley should go to a disambiguation page instead of that little Scottish city. I wasn't expecting that would be controversial but I encountered some rather upset Scottish editors. I thought I responded with logical arguments but nobody wanted to talk about it. They're still wrong of course. --JGGardiner (talk) 07:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

That would take some careful structure. Sort of like a James while John thing. --JGGardiner (talk) 22:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

West Bank

I don't accept the term 'West Bank' but as long as my editing remains NPOV, my personal opinion should not be an issue. We all have POVs, and Harlan did a no-no by removing only Netanyahu's remarks and backing that edit up by his POV. For better and worse, counterclaims are fair in WP and usually keep WO NPOV. BTW, I like the disclaimer at the top of the page. --Shuki (talk) 18:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

That is fine, just noticed the quotes around WB when I was quoting you. Glad you liked the disclaimer, equally glad you didnt see the need to actually do what it allows. nableezy - 18:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

LOL :-) --Shuki (talk) 18:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Some Info on the 1988 Declaration

User talk:Harlan wilkerson/The Real Meaning of the Declarations

harlan (talk) 00:06, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, very interesting reading. I have been very impressed with your work, what little I have seen. nableezy - 02:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Good catch..

..on Igor's meaty recruitment stuff. I'm concened about sockpuppets too although I just have possibly paranoid circumstantial evidence e.g. Igor is very fond of the phrase to call a spade a spade and he was working on an article about an Icebreaker ship exactly at the time that new user 'Warm as ice' arrived at Palestinian people spouting nonsense which started 'lets call a spade a spade'. Sean.hoyland - talk 02:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Wasnt me who caught it, just brought it up to his mentor. Unless of course you are saying the "new" user who posted this is my sock. Which would be the second time you placed fighting words here. nableezy - 02:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I few years ago when I was having lunch with an Egyptian guy from an Egyptian oil company who was complaining at length and with some passion about drivers in Cairo I said something like 'Do you think that believing in God's will makes people worse drivers ?'....stunned silence. Not my finest moment. Sean.hoyland - talk 02:53, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Worse? Please. Name a so called "developed" country whose drivers are so jedi that they fit 5 cars in 3 lanes and a half of a shoulder? When I come back to America from Egypt I see all these inefficiencies in the driving and parking that it takes at least a couple months for me to think that this is "normal". nableezy - 03:22, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Good point. I lived in Portland, OR before moving here and the contrast is striking. Here it's 2 adults, 2 kids, 1 baby, 1 weeks worth of shopping + an ironing board on 1 motorbike. Pretty efficient. Hey, would you be interested in giving a third opinion at Talk:Gilad_Shalit#Hamas.27_children_show ? I don't think I'm helping. The story in a nutshell = Sceptic added some info, an editor spotted that it needed some qualifications, I noticed it and got involved, low level edit war ensues. This diff sort of sums up the conundrum. . Sean.hoyland - talk 04:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I would be fine with your recommendations. --Sceptic from Ashdod 04:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

That is quite a compliment, thanks. Unfortunately for the you two there is a bit of a time difference between Chicago (really Madison but shhh), Ashdod and Bangkok and I am currently smoking my good night joint, so I'll take a deeper look in the morning (my morning) nableezy - 05:10, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Malcolm X

Hi. Thank you for your note. I put back the quote from Elijah Muhammad, using one of the sources you found. Thanks again. — ] (talk · contribs) 03:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Some info

Salam do you know any sources which state that Ayesha (R.A) was 16-19 at the time of her marriage ? I have found a source here but I need more sources in English to prove that the original source is not a fringe theory. Is the book 'Muhammad man and prophet' by Adil Salahi peer reviewed.If you do know please tell me.--Gnosisquest (talk) 03:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Not really, most of what I have seen puts her at the most 16. And honestly not something that I think matters. Salam, nableezy - 03:41, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks,If you ever find any scholarly source mentioning this POV please do tell me also
http://catalog.fcla.edu/ux.jsp?Ntt=Masudul+hasan&I=1&No=10&N=0&S=2171249530963707&Ntk=Keyword&V=D&Nty=1#top
Is this person considered reliable according to your info,just wondering .... --Gnosisquest (talk) 04:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

No idea, sorry. But really, this isnt something I think matters, my perception of the man doesnt change if she was 9 or 25. I dont expect the perception of him by those who try to use this as "proof" of something would change if she was 25 either. This is a sideshow, and honestly not worth the time or the effort. I would say you shouldnt look for sources that say she was older, just look at all the sources you can find. Read what they say and make a determination from that, not just read what agrees with what you think right now. nableezy - 04:10, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

You are right :-) Thanks for your advice,Though I still wish that it were possible to add such a statement.If you ever need any help do not hesitate to contact me. --Gnosisquest (talk) 05:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Who are the Palestinians in April 9, 1948 ?

I've asked the same question there. Please reply where is more suitable for you.
P.S. Thank you again for your advice. - Igorp_lj (talk) 18:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Unfair

I also enjoy some limited uncivilly. Still line of argument like: "treating the Israeli government narrative ... as gospel truth ..." is not Misplaced Pages worthy. This position tries to argue about who I am and not what my arguments are. AgadaUrbanit (talk) 23:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

no it does not. Your arguments are trying to put in the Israeli government narrative as though it is the gospel truth. Has nothing to do with who you are but rather it deals with the substance of your arguments. nableezy - 00:20, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I heard some former US president, who is actually dead started twittering. And you're right, behind legendary WP meme actually hides a former Israeli PM ;) And Thai language article - those are my long arms again. AgadaUrbanit (talk) 23:20, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

confused. nableezy - 23:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. AgadaUrbanit (talk) 13:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Wording on Hamas' children show

Can you help us once again with Hamas' children show please? --Jim Fitzgerald (talk) 10:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I removed it

btw, are you Palestinian?--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 19:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Egyptian, born in America and raised in Chicago. nableezy - 19:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Edit Warring

I was on my way to post something here to let you know I reported you, but got caught up in a response to another editor over at Kafr Saba. It seems you either have the 3RR board on your watch list, or perhaps are watching my contributions, so you were promptly aware of this report in any case. In the future, I will try to be more prompt about notifying you. LoverOfTheRussianQueen (talk) 22:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

watchlist, though I might ask if you are watching mine as you were pretty quick with the 3rr report on a page you have never edited as far as I can tell. nableezy - 22:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Nope, I have Golan Heights on my list - I have been watching with interest the edit warring over the CIA map for a while now. LoverOfTheRussianQueen (talk) 23:55, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Did you notice that I changed it to one that should be acceptable to everybody to try and end the dispute? nableezy - 00:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't necessarily disagree with that edit, but 3 of the 4 reverts you made today had nothing to do with the map. LoverOfTheRussianQueen (talk) 01:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I know that, 2 were of the removal of the word "settlement" as redundant and the other was the removal of information on UNGA resolutions. I wouldnt have reverted the settlement edit again, but Hertz seemed to accept it after 2. The other issue has been going back and forth with a user presumably logging out to edit as the IP to avoid the 3RR. But whatever, you can easily see I was not the biggest warrior of all at that page and for some reason I became the object of your attention. I dont give much of a fuck, it is nice to have fans, but it is slightly comical of you filing this report and oddly saying I use the 3RR rule as a weapon using a report I voluntarily withdrew before any block was given for 6 reverts. Just a bit funny. nableezy - 02:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

my claim that you use 3RR regularly against your opponents was made primarily to show that you are aware of 3RR, so whether or not you withdrew it is immaterial. However, it was based on more than the report you filed against Ori. here's a partial listing of additional cases: June this year, June this year, April this year, April this year, April this year, March this year - it is pretty obvious that you are a "regular" on that notice board (and having it on your watch list would be another clue). Anyway, I see the page has been protected, so we can see this entire incident as just a big warning flag. Go forth and sin no more...LoverOfTheRussianQueen (talk) 04:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at those reports. How many of those have 5 or 6 reverts listed? Only one of those were reverts of only my edits, the others were reverting multiple people consistently. Besides the one with Ori another one up there was withdrawn when the user without doubt would have been blocked. That is what I use that noticeboard for, when users just keep going nonstop without a word on the talkpage without any movement at all in their edits. And every page I have edited is in my watchlist. But speaking of sinning, if you dont mind me asking, why did you clank the section link from the edit summaries on the AN3 noticeboard? Based on what I have seen in articles I watch you usually use the edit section link which prepopulates the edit summary with the section. If you did that here you purposely removed the section link. Add that to not notifying me, though I accept you were on your way here to do so (agf and all that), seems a bit shady. nableezy - 04:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Per your suggestion, I've contacted the editors involved to see how they view the situation. If they feel you were trying to resolve a dispute rather than edit warring, I will happily withdraw my report. LoverOfTheRussianQueen (talk) 00:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)