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One of my wikistalkers User:Mathieas feels the need to disagree/revert me, so I have to spam another afd. Subject seems to fail WP:BIO/WP:N and seems to be only known for being in The Guild so redirect there. Otterathome (talk) 12:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- Comment First off, I recent the baseless accusation that I am a wikistalker. Second I find it laughable that User:Otterathome is concerned with spamming afd subjects given the number of articles he has nominated for deletion in the past two weeks. Third, User:Otterathome unilaterally decided to replace an article with a redirect, I reverted it and stated on the articles talk page that I believed it warranted discussion and nomination before being deleted. He then went and replaced the article again with a redirect. So yes I do disagree with him. Mathieas (talk) 15:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
It's borderline. WP:BIO requires "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." Well, true, if 'multiple' is 'two', and 'notable' is 'can be read about online'. Given that he's actively working, I'd veer towards keep, for now. Rogerborg (talk) 22:38, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
As has been noted by cfryrer, The Guild, now in it's third season, has been nominated for a number of notable web based video awards. It has received such incredible support that Xbox worked with the cast to produce a music video "Do You Wanna Date My Avatar" which went to number one on both itunes and Amazon downloads. I believe that the cast also voiced characters for a game produced by them and even invited the cast to a recent game launch. The program is also popular enought to have time slots at the recent Comicom and PAX. I believe that this program will becaome more popular, rather than less, meaning that it's stars will become more popular, rather than less. So that decision is, do we delete the entry for the sake of semantics only to put the same entry up again in 6 months time... or do we give him the benefit of six months grace and see where the growing popularity of The Guild takes him?... --Chuxsta (talk) 11:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Above two comments are very WP:CRYSTAL, and we require sources so it passes WP:N.--Otterathome (talk) 19:22, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- DELETE This man does not meet WP:N standard.Simonm223 (talk) 19:34, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Keep: Both Simonm and Otterathome seem to think that failing WP:N means that a subject is not notable. This is a not true. WP:N clearly states: "A topic is presumed to be notable enough to merit an article if it meets the general notability guidelines below. A topic can also be considered notable if it meets the criteria outlined in one of the more subject-specific guidelines". As Rogerborg has said, the subject meets (just about) WP:ENTERTAINER. As WP:N states that meeting "one of the more subject-specific guidelines" (such as WP:ENTERTAINER) makes a subject notable it is obvious that the subject is notable. Spitfire 19:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Keep, as he's a primary cast member of a web series notable enough to have a exclusive distribution contract with Microsoft and their own ComicCon panel..--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete - Notability is established by non-trivial coverage in multiple, reliable, third-party sources. I don't see any sources in this article that satisfy WP:RS. If these are found and added then I will reconsider my vote. <>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 20:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Keep I agree it is a borderline case; however, under WP:Entertainer A subject is notable if they have a large 'cult' following. The Guild and Vincent Caso both fall under this I believe. Large online fan base, they were the toast of ComicCon and Blizzcon, I believe that qualifies as a large cult following. Also, WP:Del says that deference should be given to stub articles because of the ability to improve upon them. Also, for completion sake the article should not be deleted since it would create a hole (a dead link to a major player) in the Guild coverage. Lastly, rather then simply turning the page into a redirect as otterathome did unilaterally perhaps the material could be merged into another article. Mathieas (talk) 21:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)