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MZMcBride | 15:58, 21/01/2010 | "poorly referenced or completely unreferenced should be deleted on-sight" | 54 | 156 | 1 | Stricter 0 days Delete immediately |
Jehochman | 16:14, 21/01/2010 |
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163 | 34 | 1 | Stricter 7 days |
Jclemens | 16:22, 21/01/2010 | "The risk reduced--and let's be clear, there certainly will be some--is insufficient to justify the widespread deletion of accurate, useful, and innocuous information, sourced or not, and ultimately damages Misplaced Pages without helping BLP vandalism subjects." | 81 | 19 | 0 | No change |
Collect | 16:16, 21/01/2010 | "Existence of a person is not, however, controversial nor contentious. WP has policies for deleting articles lacking notability, and no Draconian policy of automatic article deletion should pre-empt the orderly functioning of processes already existing." | 81 | 19 | 3 | No change |
David Gerard | 16:17, 21/01/2010 | "I suggest a PROD-like template - call it BLP-PROD - which says "Find references for this article or it DIES." Five days seems too long, make it two days." | 64 | 46 | 1 | Stricter 2 days |
DGG | 17:10, 21/01/2010 | "For old articles, a procedure of summary deletion is particularly reckless." | 63 | 5 | 4 | No change |
Power.corrupts | 18:12, 21/01/2010 | "The real problem is unsourced contentious info, not unreferenced articles. The proposal will do nothing or little to the real problem, and at the same time incur tremendous costs." | 48 | 14 | 0 | No change |
Sandstein | 19:25, 21/01/2010 | "The arbcom motion is not to be understood as changing or superseding general deletion policy and process as applied to the biographies of living persons, and it should be considered void if and insofar as it might have been intended to have that effect. Instead, any policy change should be decided by community consensus, starting with this RfC." | 73 | 5 | 3 | N/A |
Jimbo Wales | 15:14, 25/01/2010 | "Starting with everything which has been unreferenced for more than 3 years, a three-month notice time starting February 1st, before they are deleted on May 1st. 2. Starting with everything which has been unreferenced for more than 2 years, a three-month notice time starting May 1st, before they are deleted on August 1st. 3. Starting with everything which has been unferenced for more than 1 year, a three-month notice time starting August first, before they are deleted on November 1st.
In all cases, biographies deleted for being old and unreferenced should be put onto a list for those who wish to come behind and work on them further. After that, we can consider how long is a reasonable life span (I would say one week, but one month could be fine as well) for new biographies to exist in a sad state before they are deleted. |
36 | 24 | 4 | Stricter 7 days to 30 days |
Aymatth2 | 13:39, 24 January 2010 | This proposal is to create a mechanically ranked list of all unsourced BLPs, so editors who want to remove inappropriate articles can work up from the bottom of the list, and editors who want to retain valuable content can work down from the top. Obvious ranking criteria would be:
The values would be given weightings in a ranking formula such as: (inboundlinks x 100) + (uniqueeditors x 150) + (sizekb x 50) - (agedays x 1) - (lasteditdays x 0.5) |
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Henrik | 16:24, 21 January 2010 | "A significant minority of editors are unwilling to let unsourced, but likely uncontentious biographies remain in the encyclopedia. Deleting content makes the text available to only a select few, and makes fixing the articles a significantly harder process. I suggest an alternative to tackle the backlog of the roughly 50k articles in question:
This allows us to work towards preserving the content of these articles, while maintaining respect for the potential harm unsourced biographies may cause." |
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WereSpielChequers | 16:57, 21 January 2010 | Earlier this month User:DASHBot started gently chiding the authors of unsourced BLPs. I think we should wait a couple of weeks to see what effect that has on Category:All unreferenced BLPs, or if people want to give DASHBot a hand, look for retired/inactive/blocked users who DASHBot has spoken to and help them fix or delete their unsourced contributions.
...can someone write a Bot to inform wikiprojects of unsourced BLPs in their remit in the same way that DASHBot has been informing authors?" ...introduce "delete new unsourced BLP" as a speedy criteria; provided that we very clearly inform article creators that from a particular date this is the new rule, and that articles created after that date with information about living people must be reliably sourced. ...proding the unreferenced residue in batches over a couple of months ...I agree with delete unsourced BLPs on sight as the policy we should be able to enact in say 6 months. But with the following provisos:
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31 | 9 | Stricter Technical | |
NJA | 16:53, 21 January 2010 |
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10 | 19 | Stricter 5 days | |
The Anome | 17:11, 21 January 2010 | Any bot activity...will need to be intensively supervised by humans for some time to avoid serious loss of useful articles...numerous articles are currently tagged as unsourced BLPs when they have references | 10 | 2 | Technical | |
Resolute | 17:59, 21 January 2010 | ...Wikiprojects can help. User:WolterBot has a function that generates a cleanup listing by project. Using tools such as this allows the community to break the overwhelming scope of this issue down into manageable sizes. If we repurpose this function as a mandatory listing for all projects - either as a one time run or a quarterly listing - we can at least begin to tackle this problem. | 35 | 7 | Technical | |
Power.corrupts | 18:12, 21 January 2010 | "The real problem is unsourced contentious info, not unreferenced articles. The proposal will do nothing or little to the real problem, and at the same time incur tremendous costs." | 48 | 15 | No change | |
Themfromspace | 19:03, 21 January 2010 | "holding tank" for all uncited BLP articles. This could be a separate project space altogether, or the subpages of a WikiProject. Each uncited BLP would then be automatically moved out of the mainspace to this holding space where it would not be indexed by Google. Each of these articles would then be considered a work in progress (and could be tagged as such) until they were moved back into the mainspace. | 6 | 10 | Technical | |
Arthur Rubin | 19:16, 21 January 2010 | Any deletion by an accelerated process...should, after deletion, restore a (locked, if needed) stub...The stub should not be deleted for 6 months, unless a non-accelerated deletion procedure is followed. | 22 | 7 | technical | |
NuclearWarfare | 19:53, 21 January 2010 | I would submit that the community cannot fully trust administrators who violate the BLP policy. | 18 | 27 | 1 | N/A |
OrangeDog | 20:00, 21 January 201 | Unreferenced articles on notable living people that contain no contentious material (including, but not limited to a large number of stubs) should be treated the same as any other article, noting that they provide useful information and provide a mechanism for the encylopedia to grow...I do not see any reason to create new deletion processes to circumvent or abuse those that we already have. Especially not ones that involve automatic and unsupervised mass deletion. | 26 | 7 | No change | |
Hut 8.5 | I propose that we set up a wikiproject to source unreferenced BLPs. | 21 | 0 | Technical Unanimous support | ||
User:MickMacNee and User:Ikip | Anger at history of RFC | N/A | ||||