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Welcome to the picnic! If you are a new user thanking me for the welcome, create the section with "Thanks from (your name)" or something similar, not just Thanks or Thank you, as this gets hard to track. :)

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RfM

this William / subnational entity naming thing? it's quite since at least two weeks. fine with me not todo anything there. thx a lot and happy new year. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 02:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

RFM - Beatriz Marinello

Thanks for your kind offer. Mediation would most likely be fruitless. Billbrock 02:19, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

RFM subnational entities?

Hello, are you still interested in mediation? Please reply at my talk page. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I don't quite understand the processes yet, and they are not well documented.
  • When do the the RFCs become complete? I don't see any time limit listed, and it's hard to figure out where everything stands:
    1. Conradi never responded to the Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Tobias Conradi. What happens next?
    2. The MedCab guy issued "final" comments on the one that he started at Misplaced Pages:Request for comment/Naming conventions (subnational entities). Again, what happens next?
  • Meanwhile, having been driven off the "(subnational entities)" project page, I posted my proposed text on the superior project "(places)" — and after virtually no controversy (unlike the fierce fights over US and Canada there), it's all now part of the adopted guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (places). It probably helped that I've some experience writing international standards (Google is your friend).
  • Really, it all came down to the tamper tantrums of one guy.
  • The reasons for the tantrums became apparent when I discovered Conradi had been vigorously moving/renaming pages to create a de facto standard after losing the straw poll of August 2005.
  • The issue isn't resolved with finality, as there are still thousands of pages to be moved and fixed to conform to the new guidelines.
    • Do RfCs persist until all the problems are fixed?
    • Would a goal of RfM be that Conradi help in putting things back where they belong?
  • After so long a wait, I'd hate to give up the opportunity for actual RfM help, but as I don't know what's the regular practice for completion of RfCs, and how RfM fits into the schema, I don't know what to do next.
  • (I'll watch here for the answer.)
--William Allen Simpson 02:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Conradi isn't interested in mediation it appears, so the mediation won't happen as both parties must agree. As for your other questions, I'd really like to answer them all but I'm busy trying to reform RFM right now... Redwolf24 (talk) 02:54, 10 January 2006 (UTC)