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Revision as of 20:46, 10 January 2006 by 72.136.206.89 (talk)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)The importance of The White Rose Society transcends anything its detractors post here.
I use Misplaced Pages a lot, but this issue is the first time I am actively participating in a discussion so I apologize if I am ignorant to the convention for editing talk dicussions. I want to answer something stated on the project page: Keep. Ben is perfectly within his rights to ask for his friends at DU to help him defend his web site here. I download something from White Rose every day. Keep, keep, keep. On edit: Looks like the FReepers are getting in on the act, so expect a whole spate of deletes from them.
Just because one uses a site is not merit for a Wiki article. I'm sorry. Misplaced Pages is a tool to be used as a launching point for research and information gathering. If anybody wanted to research the "White Rose Society Website" there are plenty of more appropriate ways to do this, namely going to the website. The article in question has no real content other than a link. There is no value add. What useful information could possibly be gleaned from a short synoposis and a link to the site? That people frequent another website is not good enough. This is Wikispam.
Ben is NOT within is rights to ask people from an unrelated message board to flood keep. If you disagree, please tell me how the article would be in any way useful to them. What reference does it contain that they might ever need to look up? Why would anyone ever use the article?
-m00
Perhaps if Ben added a little history about TWS to the wiki page. I understand he didn't start the page but in order to comply with wiki rules would it be within his rights to edit the page to include information about the origins of the site, trials and tribulations he has encountered maintaining it, and general site stats?
I think the page would fit your criteria and provide valuable information for those that are trying to reference TWS when linking the site for others to check out. AnonymousArmy
- If it had merit (as in, it would be conceivable someone might actually do research on the history of his website in the future, or otherwise cares about the origins of the site) then yes. But I'd really have to see the content. I hope my point isn't lost on you -- that a Misplaced Pages article which basically only serves to link to an external website looks a lot like vanity, regardless of specific content. I mean, I could throw up my own person life story on wikipedia or link my personal website... but that wouldn't be appropriate. What makes Ben Burch / The White Rose Society of specific interest to users of Misplaced Pages? Is there historical, political, or pop culture merit? What is it? I used cheaptickets.com as a random example... if this page were allowed to stand, what's stopping every personal project, website, or blog from being put up as pure advertisement, due to the precedent it would set?
- Also, The people I see voting "keep" are people who already know about the The White Rose Society, so what's the point of this? Misplaced Pages endeavors to be on par with published encyclopedias. If Mr. Burch has a devoted web following I salute him. But I don't see it as enough to warrant a wiki page that his site exists. - m00
"Misplaced Pages endeavors to be on par with published encyclopedias" ...
I would have to disagree whole heartedly with that statement. Wiki is much more than that I think and, given the ability we have to discuss this, the difference should be clear.
"I mean, I could throw up my own person life story on wikipedia or link my personal website... but that wouldn't be appropriate."
Again I disagree. I think it would be very appropriate. You life and story are worth noting imo as part of the human experience circa 2006. I asked in the other thread if there are bandwidth issues with wiki and assumed not when nobody responded. Is there a server issue that would prevent hosting such pages?
"what's stopping every personal project, website, or blog from being put up as pure advertisement, due to the precedent it would set?"
Does wiki use any kind of algorithm to list sites automatically on the home page? Does wiki send an rss feed that might give a "spam" page exposure other than a visitor having to Directly accessing the wiki page? If not how is any page an Advertisement? If i need to search for the page or am linked to the page them imo absolutely no advertising value is added by posting a page on wiki.
If I went to the wiki home page looking to research Prescott Bush's Nazi financing, or eminent domain abuses would I ever encounter Ben's page? If not then I don't think the advertising argument hold water.
AA