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B2CJewels an orphan?

{{helpme}} Why is this put up? Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 09:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

The article is an orphan - it is not linked to from many other articles. — Deon 09:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update.Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 10:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

There's a huge list of references for this article http://www.b2cjewels.com/b2cjewels-in-news.aspx. I have added more references to the wiki article as well. Can the orphan tag be removed now? Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 03:28, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Being an orphan is nothing to do with references: it means not many other Misplaced Pages articles link to this article. In fact, no articles contain links to B2C Jewels. The tag shouldn't be removed until appropriate links to B2C Jewels from related articles are added. Algebraist 03:31, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Paid Ref

{{helpme}} Can this paid reference be used? as seen here . The complete open article is anyway available here http://www.b2cjewels.com/NorthJersey.html Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 08:31, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it can be used - because what is being referenced is an article in a published newspaper. The fact that it happens to be available online for a fee is besides the point. When you cite a publication, you are not citing the website - you can provide the URL as a 'convenience link', but that's all it is.

In the same way, you can cite a book. The fact that the individual reader who wants to verify the information would have to pay for the book is beside the point.

I hope that makes sense. For more help, you can either;

• Leave a message on my own talk page; OR
• Use another {{helpme}} here,; OR
• Talk to us live, with this or this.

Best wishes,  Chzz  ►  08:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Poor diamond reference

Almost any "poor" link can be appropriate to demonstrate something, thus my answer is a guesswork as I don't know what it is all about. This link would be poor for many WP pages and facts, for several reasons: (i) too much trivial commercials around the text make it look unreliable, (ii) It seems like a news site, yet the story is unsigned (iii) the message is focused on how to buy which would not look good at most WP articles on diamond, and the only name supporting it is of a website owner, which website again focuses on selling. Regards. Materialscientist (talk) 00:14, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ratna Pariksha

The article Ratna Pariksha has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This article does not meet the general notability guidelines - for inclusion, an article requires significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The only source here is a primary source, hence the article is not verifiable.

While all contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.  Chzz  ►  04:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

 Chzz  ►  09:15, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

The above has been archived; it is now in User_talk:Chzz/Archive_15#Ratna_Pariksha  Chzz  ►  21:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Recreating TalentSmart

I was coming across this company TalentSmart in google.com as I wanted to know it's review, Negative comments, and information by wiki is very important for me. But, since this page was deleted before I do not know if it was advise-able to re-create this one again. To check the credibility of this company I checked http://books.google.com/books?q=TalentSmart&lr=&sa=N&start=10 where I found good amount of references. But, again since the article was deleted before, so I wanted to was it safe to re-create the article. But, again since I am not following this company I do not know much of its background. So, would it be OK if I re-started the article?

{{helpme}}

Could you please write it in User:Ganesh_J._Acharya/TalentSmart - that is, a page in your own userspace, not live - and then use another {{helpme}} to get it checked over, before moving it to the live area? Thanks!  Chzz  ►  06:43, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

okGanesh J. Acharya (talk) 11:39, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Fair Use

{{helpme}} How much of referred content is considered as fair use? Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 10:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't think there is a specific amount above which it would be counted as unfair use! Misplaced Pages:Fair_use#Text says that "Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea. Copyrighted text that is used verbatim must be attributed with quotation marks or other standard notation, such as block quotes.". Perhaps if you gave an specific example, I could be more precise - but without knowing what you intend on using (and how much), I'd say a couple of sentences are OK, but probably not much more than that. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

For example http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Ganesh_J._Acharya/TalentSmart "TalentSmart is a EQ training provider to corporates, and as on 22 Oct 2009 it claims to be serving more than 75% of Fortune 500 Companies." the line is getting adopted from http://www.talentsmart.com/whoweare/ so does that fall under fair use? Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 05:09, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

In this case I would be referring (but not copying) to content directly from the copyrighted website and adding that to wiki, so does that fall under fair use?Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 05:11, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

It is best to phrase words in your own writing, whenever possible, or to include short quotes (which is covered under our non-free content criteria). The former is preferable as we wish to use free content whenever possible. And when including quotes, always remember to source them back to where they came from. —Dark 06:08, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Is adapting about 300 words from a copyright text in my own words considered Fair Use?Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 12:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

No it is not considered fair use because fair use only applies to things that can be copyrighted and ideas and information are not part of that equation. It is the order of the words; the uniqueness of phrasing; the particular syntax and so on that is copyrighted. If you take information from a source and *truly* state it in your own words, that's called 'research and writing'. You should absolutely cite your source and your source should be reliable, but copyright doesn't even enter the picture and so the fair use doctrine is not applicable (or needed). That having been said, note that taking a source's content and closely paraphrasing it by copying and superficially modifying it will not meet this mandate. It must really be your own words.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Adapting content from wikipedia

{{helpme}} If I use content from wikipedia on one of my webpages, do I need to add a link back to wikipedia, and state that I've referred the content from wikipeda?

Full details can be found at Misplaced Pages:Reusing Misplaced Pages content. AJCham 06:11, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Per our licensing policy, whenever you include excerpts of our content on a different website, you must reference (or link to) Misplaced Pages. To do so, feel free to use Special:Cite and choosing the format of your choice. —Dark 06:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I've just copied Cricket to our newly created http://cricfaqs.com/Cricket page at cricfaqs.com. Just adding a <ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cricket&oldid=325163947</ref> to the page http://cricfaqs.com/Cricket, justify the policies? Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 16:21, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Currently I've added a section at the bottom.Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 16:40, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

From my reading of the policies, that would probably be sufficient - however, if I was using it, I would probably mention the fact that material was from Misplaced Pages somewhere at the top of the page - mainly on the principle that if a reader didn't get to the bottom of the page, they may not see the notice, whereas if it's at the top, everyone can see it! However, there is no requirement to do this. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't mind that too, http://cricfaqs.com/Cricket#Original_Content_Source so long as everyone's happy about it. The content out at Cricket is only because of wiki's efforts so far. Please have a look at it and let me know if it looks good now?Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 17:38, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I took the liberty of editing it! I hope you are happy with the way I have done the notice at the top of the page.

Another thing to note is that on Misplaced Pages, we are kind of spoiled! We have a lot of templates which are not standard on Wikis. To get things like <ref> to work, you need to have the templates on your wiki. When you edit the "Cricket" page, you will see there is a list of templates used on the page - below the edit summary. If they are in red, then they aren't on your wiki! You can, however, copy them over to your wiki. (You may find, however, that they in turn need other templates... etc)! To see the source for a template, copy it from the list on your Wiki (e.g. Template:Abc) and then do a search on Misplaced Pages for that template (exactly as written, including the Template: bit). You can then either Edit this page and copy it (then paste it on your Wiki with the same name template) - or if it is protected, you can View source and copy and paste. I have done this for a couple of the templates showing you examples of how to do it. I hope this helps - it may be a lot of work for you though (and that's before you even copy other articles for your red links!). Good luck! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:43, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for all the explanation you've added here. I'll start fixing the Templates 1 by 1. I've changed the GNU message you wrote a bit. I had selected GNU licence when installing, I do not know why that is not seen now. I think I might have to modify some code to fix the licence problem.Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 02:48, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry I do not know if this is the right place to ask this

I get some templates those are not on wiki http://www.cricfaqs.com/Template:Reflist Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 02:33, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

What is the revenue model of Misplaced Pages

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1. I heard wikipedia runs only with donations as it does not support advertisements, so where does it arrange the funds from?
2. What if there's insufficient funds to run wikipedia?
3. Were can we get all these references from, are there any other backups?

Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 15:56, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

See WP:About. Intelligentsium 16:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

We accept donations year-round, but we have an annual fundraising effort that aims to raise most of the funds we need to support the 35 people who work for Wikimedia and the server clusters. The current fundraising effort can be viewed here; the financial information and everything can be found in the FAQ, here. Hope that helps! Cheers, m.o.p 16:34, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

It is in a very open way that you people are working. It feels very great that there are people with great though living in this era too when everyone is after money at any cause. Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 06:51, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I wish from my heart, success to wiki. May you enjoy all the good times, and may GOD give you the strength to face all the adversities, so long as you are doing them the right way.Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 06:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of B2C Jewels

I have nominated B2C Jewels, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/B2C Jewels. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Psychonaut (talk) 14:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Regarding AFD deletion

I am not happy with the way the article was recently deleted.

The following concerns were raised. I have an ex-emp status!

I was told at IRC to add that. I did add that and then removed it, as we wikipedians passed messages, via this route.Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 00:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Apology Twasta

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Vishwakarma_%28caste%29&action=historysubmit&diff=346816144&oldid=346721105

Twasta I do not know if it is a Gotra, I commented wrong "twasta is upgotra, not the main 5 gotra".

But, it is not one mentioned in Yajur Veda among the 5 important Risi that is generally believed.

Also, we can see Abhuvanasya Risi is already equated with Tvashta by someone else. Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 04:34, 28 February 2010 (UTC)