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How is what I did vandalism? Explain.

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List of Internet Slang

Hello there. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious (I often do), but can you please tell me what was wrong with this edit. Thanks, →FireFox 18:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Sure thing, there are two reasons actually. Although it is an acronym, it does not really fit the albeit vague definition of internet slang. That, and it does not return any hits on Google that I can find, so it appears to be an extremely non-notable acronym as well. Best regards, Hall Monitor 18:27, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok then, that's fine :) Thanks for getting back to me. →FireFox 18:34, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Anon 204.218.244.11

Concerning this anon(s) and he/her/it's disruptive vandalism, I really have to say I don't appreciate it. However, the downside is I also make "constructive edits" at this adress, and I can't afford to have it blocked.. How about I take his contributions under my watchful eye and make sure to revert when necessary..? That way the IP will be free of vandalism and a block won't be nessesary. What do you think..? -MegamanZero|Talk 20:10, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

The inconvenience is quite mutual, I assure you. If you do not mind, it would be appreciated if you reserve your edits until after school. Hall Monitor 20:16, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

But I do, which is why I was compelled to bring my query to your attention. Please allow me to take responsilbility for awhile regarding such behavior, if I can not handle it, then reinstate the block. I think that sounds sensible. What's your thoughts..? -MegamanZero|Talk 20:26, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Hall monitor, please see: -MegamanZero|Talk 20:55, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I have responded there as well. Best regards, Hall Monitor 21:09, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I am well aware of those constant blocks. Which is preciseley why I ask you let me take responsilbility and keep up on the IP's contributions. Note that the last 10 times had no one keeping an eye on the contributions enough to revert. I will take this seriously, and I request you give me a chance to do so.-MegamanZero|Talk 21:18, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Your request has been brought before the Administrator's Noticeboard, and I will honour whatever decision is made. Best regards, Hall Monitor 21:20, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

My user page

Thanks for mopping up that vandalism! :) - FrancisTyers 17:56, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

66.17.116.148 (talk)—again...

Wow... it sure seems like the admin community has shown amazing patience with this poster child for immaturity. This person just attempted to tell another user that an "edit to Jennifer Vasquez a long time ago was not vandalism. I was simply stating a truth, because she is rumored to be adept at oral sex." If "rumored to be" equals "a truth", then reality is a long way from finding this... er... individual... ;) RadioKirk talk to me 00:04, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Just tried blanking the page again... RadioKirk talk to me 05:42, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Apologies for the language, but this bottom-feeder's latest attempt to blank its page included, in the edit summary, "blank, bastards. Go fuck yourselves". Given this "person"'s history, from whom would I request, say, a sixth-month block from all of Misplaced Pages, including its own pages? RadioKirk talk to me 02:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

The next was even worse... RadioKirk talk to me 02:21, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Your deletion of the anon's personal attack

I understand the motives for your edit on User talk:Jimbo Wales. The comment you removed violates WP:NPA and, what's worse, is a waste of a few seconds of Jimbo's time. Nevertheless, I think that letting such things remain is generally better than giving their author the chance to play the martyr in a denunciation of censorship. Therefore, although I appreciate your thought, I would've reverted your edit if the anon hadn't already done so. JamesMLane 00:27, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

NTL cache

bmly-cache-8.server.ntli.net You just blocked the NTL cache. That's me, a whole host of other people who use NTL and a vandal. I've undone the block. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 23:23, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

My apologies, but wasn't the NTL collateral damage issue resolved long ago? Hall Monitor 23:24, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Well i thought it was too. Something must have changed in the meantime. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 23:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Featured article protection

Please do not protect the daily featured article. Raul654 23:36, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not realise that the Marilyn Manson article was the daily FA; that atleast explains the sudden rampant vandalism though. It must be time for a wiki-break. Signing off, Hall Monitor 23:41, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Many thanks for your support and kind comments on my request for adminiship, I'm sure you'll be glad to know the final result was 92/1/0. I am now an administrator and (as always) if I do anything you have issue with, please talk about it with me. --Alf 11:40, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your support on my request for adminship.

Block removal

Once again, many thanks. Also, check your e-mail, okay? -MegamanZero|Talk 19:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Will do, and it appears we are making good progress with the vandalism problem from the Department of Defense Dependents School network. I'll keep you posted. Best regards, Hall Monitor 19:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

The Israeli-Palestinian edit conflict

At History of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, I assume that when you reverted you did not mean to ratify the unilateral uncommented deletion of the section The Great Uprising. If I've misunderstood, could you please leave a note on the relevant talk page and let's discuss it. If I'm right, no need to respond, because I've restored it. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you are correct. Thank you for the restoration. Hall Monitor 17:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Adding images to a user page

Hey man,I need to know much. I am creating a user page for myself and want to know how I can get images from outside and keep them on my user page.

Also,while editing,how can you change an image into a new one from your saved pictures on your computer. Batzarro 16:08, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm on it. :)

DickyRobert

I've been eagerly watching your CheckUser request on DickyRobert because I've had my own runins with him and his sockpuppets. Just wanted to let you know that Misplaced Pages:Requests for CheckUser has been created; you might relist there and get a faster response. · Katefan0/mrp 21:05, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I see that my WP:RFCU has been redirected there instead. It is worth noting that Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser previously redirect to WP:RFA which is why the nomination for Curps has been placed there. I still believe strongly that Misplaced Pages would greatly benefit from him receiving these privileges, and appreciate your follow up on this. Best regards, Hall Monitor 21:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Good faith

I apologize if my tone in opposing your actions implied that I was questioning your good faith. Your good faith is not at issue. I am not questioning your motivations, I am questioning the appropriateness of your actions. -- Cecropia 23:08, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

This is fine, and I accept that. Please understand that I have been giving this matter consideration for a number of weeks now, and to the best of my knowledge there is not yet a process for handling these types of requests. It was not until this morning that WP:RFCU as a CheckUser Helpdesk was created. I am strongly of the opinion that we need to promote specific individuals, namely User:Curps to have the ability to perform CheckUser requests, which is why I went forward with this WP:BOLD public appeal to grant him these privileges. Appropriate or not, the reason that I selected WP:RFA as the place to make this appeal was because Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser redirected there. Please accept my apologies as this was not meant to be a disruptive action, I have only the best interests of Misplaced Pages at heart. Hall Monitor 23:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I also accept your expression of good intentions, and I know you obviously feel this is a Very Good Thing, but I think the way you are going about it is inappropriate and will not achieve what you are trying to. My interest as a bureaucrat who is one of those who oversees the RfA page is that it not become a polling place for community sentiments that cannot be acted on there. -- Cecropia 00:11, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Wait...

There was a vandal? I thought I'd just cover up for some people. ;-) (No problem.) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 19:25, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Nomination for adminship

Woo woo! Thanks for the nomination! Now I'm all excited!  :) :) --Yamla 21:23, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll be accepting the nomination and answering the questions later on today (I'm at work right now...) --Yamla 21:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Wonderful, I'm glad to hear it and wish you the best of luck! Hall Monitor 21:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Restrictive hours idea

In light of the realization that we may never get around all these schools sharing the same IP address, I request perhaps we could set up a time frame we could unblock then reblock again each day..? I don;t know, just popped in my head, as I can't see any other options. Tell me what you think about it; right now, I going go to bed. Cheers. -MegamanZero|Talk 22:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

What sort of time frame would you suggest? Hall Monitor 22:14, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking 7:00 - 9:25 (wikipedian time). As I am in computer classes during that timeframe, respectively, and can keep up on vandalism more. Certainly not the whole day, however, because multiple school IP's vandlaism would be comming in from all sides. -MegamanZero|Talk 22:31, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

What do you think..? -MegamanZero|Talk 21:48, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I would not feel comfortable enforcing such a restriction without the consent of the appropriate school authorities. If the school principal, superintendent, or system administrator were to send this request via email to info-en@wikipedia.org I would be more than happy to try to accomodate this. What would make this most difficult though is that there is no automated way to achieve this, meaning an administrator (or group of administrators) would have perform these blocks (and unblocks) on a daily basis. Best regards, Hall Monitor 22:13, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I suppose we'll have to find another way, I guess. -MegamanZero|Talk 03:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hall Monitor, thank you very much for supporting me during my recent RfA campaign! Thanks to you, I am now an admin. Please drop by if you need anything - I'll be glad to help you. Once again, thanks! --M@thwiz2020 22:59, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

ChristianEdwardGruber

Good candidate to nominate for an RFA: ChristianEdwardGruber. KI 20:37, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Just checked in...

...and I not only caught a sockpuppet, I saw you on the blocked IP page. I guess I still care enough to block a monkey every once in a while. Drop me an e-mail...? - Lucky 6.9 00:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

169.244.143.115 (talk · contribs)

Hello, Hall Monitor. I noticed that you tagged 169.244.143.115 (talk · contribs), which seems to be a source of persistant vandalism, as an open proxy. It's my understanding that that IP address is a public-use computer for Maine Department of Libraries - do you have any reason for indicating that as an open proxy IP address? Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 01:16, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Request for assistance

User:Endomion has started a dozen or so articles, which is wonderful - she hasn't categorized them, or added a stub notice (as far as I've checked they are all stubs) and she has not cited any sources, which is bad. I left a brief note on her talk page about the first one I saw, but then I checked her list (from her User page) and found them all to be as I have noted. Unfortunately, Endomion does not view me in a positive light, as she attempted to make a number of unsupported, unsourced, POV edits to Intelligent design and I was one of the editors explaining why her views were not meeting with support. Would you be so kind as to post a friendly message on her page about the importance of citing verifiable sources? I think she would take it better from a party she sees as neutral (as she does not see me.) Thanks much - KillerChihuahua 21:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Comment The user in question only has a small percentage of stubs in the state described above, typically ones that were done within the last couple weeks. This can be verified by looking at the comprehesive list on the user's main page in the "Original Articles" section and the "Stubs" section. The user in question is an eventualist Wikipedian and would not view any such message to be friendly. Endomion 19:32, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah well, apparantly not. KillerChihuahua 19:41, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

In fact, the user would probably feel it was a form of gang Wikistalking. Endomion 20:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

199.195.109.4

Hey, I am a student at the school with this IP address, and I agree with the block based on what I have seen from this IP's contribs. However, is there a way that I could contribute from this IP while I am logged in? If you look at some of the useful contribs from this IP (such as , , , and ), you will see that I sometimes add useful, relevant content to Misplaced Pages from this IP. I don't know if it is technically possible to do this, but I would greatly appreciate anything that could be done. You can also feel free to look at my logged-in contribs, I do not vandalize. zellin t / c 22:43, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Userpage

I was wondering if you can replace your CA flag image with Image:Flag of Canada.svg. Thanks. Zach 02:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Karen Dotrice

With a great deal of input, my first article from scratch is up for Featured Article status (self-nominated). Feel free to visit and vote! RadioKirk talk to me 18:57, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

RfA "serial opposers"

Hi,

Just thought I'd drop a line to continue our discussion started at EurekaLott's RfA, since I must unfortunately continue to disagree with your view. Let me explain more fully. My belief that "serial opposers" should simply be left alone arises from several grounds: first, I dislike questioning of a voter's rationale -- if a voter opposes solely on the ground that "There should be no admins," he has a rationale to vote. This rationale is ludicrous, in the wiki-context, and the vote will likely be ignored by the b'crat. Arguing with him over the rationale is of little use; he is clearly outside the wiki-mainstream, and provoking him runs afoul of the spirit of WP:BEANS.

It is true that such a serial opposer is being slightly disruptive; however, arguing with him over his vote only enlarges that disruption, draws more attention to his unusual views, and can attract well-meaning sympathizers (like FSF), who don't wish to see any vote questioned so strongly. Silence on the RfA really is the optimum approach to keep the RfA orderly. If a serial voter is abusive, or truly exceptionally annoying, problems with him may be taken to RfC, as was done with Boothy.

I'd argue, though, that -- as asinine as they seem -- serial opposers are sometimes good for the system. Remember, their votes are almost always ignored by the B'crat, and most RfA regulars. Clearly, the offending voter has a gripe, and needs to blow off steam; letting him do so alone may make him feel better, and after doing so many times, without provoking anyone, he may come to understand that his vote is essentially ignored. In the meantime, having a single oppose vote on every RfA serves as a symbolic reminder (ala William Plumer) that the RfA system is an open one, and not clique driven, or "cabal"-ish.

I'd only worry about serial opposers if they began to multiply; again, in the spirit of WP:BEANS, I think this is less likely to happen if they are ignored, and left in peace alone on their protest "hilltop".

Best wishes, Xoloz 17:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

• I have no idea how that justifies the act of trolling. I see you're trying to say what's best for everyone, but allowing a user to walk off scott-free without letting them know they are in the wrong for being disruptive and/or trying to prove a point is unacceaptable. Nor was Freestylefrappe's spite voting "well -meant" ethier. Rfa's are for the eventually improvement of the encyclopedia by asisting users with more responsibility. They are not the place to "let off steam", troll, "let off a gripe", and certaintly not the place to WP:POINT at someone else's expense. Rfa is just that, rfa, and nothing more. People with such feelings not to do with that procedure should allow cooler heads to vote and refrain themselves. -Zero 17:51, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Truth is, looking at his record, MassiveEgo is probably a troll. Have you noticed, though, that he has at least started providing words to justify his vote, and even supported one? By being ourselves level-headed in response to his less-than-mature provocations, we might bring him into the "responsible user" fold yet. Our other serial opposer, Boothy, was a valuable contributor in other ways, so serial opposing isn't always "trolling." One other point where I disagree with you a bit -- I don't see how any candidate could take a serial opposer too seriously; I had looked forward to being opposed by Boothy, as a badge of honor, and in any case, simply telling an aggrieved candidate, "he always opposes" should soothe feelings. Xoloz 18:06, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't see how voting out of blantent insolense can be a "badge of honor", but I'll respect your opinion. However, considering Massiveego's lack of communication skills when someone politely asked him his concenus for voting, he has decided to ignore them. No one has "aggrivated" him or "harrassed" him- he's just avoiding discussion. However, I am glad to see his lastest vote seems somewhat more civil and I really hope he continues to improve his behavior. -Zero 18:13, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

• Thank you Xoloz for contacting me regarding this issue. While I understand your point of view, and even agree with it to a certain extent, I think there is a point where things stop being a minor nuisance and start becoming insulting and disruptive to illustrate a point, and I believe that this line has been crossed. If the actions persist I am afraid an RFC will need to be filed. Hall Monitor 17:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I would support an RfC. That measure takes the discussion out of individual RfAs, where debating one (likely to be ignored) vote is a distraction for the candidate involved. Xoloz 18:06, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Is there an RfC for freestylefrappe as well..? -Zero 18:15, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

There is an RFAR for freestylefrappe at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Freestylefrappe, but I am not party to it. Best regards, Hall Monitor 18:22, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Its already clear to everyone that his voting is disruptively based on WP:POINT, and his overall actions and demeanor unacceaptable. I will not participate in the ordeal ethier, but I would very much like to read it. I invite you to do the same. -Zero 18:26, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Whats wrong with this edit ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Carlos_Santana&diff=35713823&oldid=35713382 The link I added was to a personal fan site, containing just info & pictures, it is not commercial & does not charge anything. Why was it removed ? I have seen links to Amazon in other entries, thats surely commercial ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gungho (talk • contribs) 20:15, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Are you the same person as IP 82.45.1.145? Hall Monitor 20:23, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

The same computer but used by several people, I made 2 edits to the Santana entry & then decided to register under the name "gungho" which I will use from now on. I see there have been a few edits under the "Chris Moyles" entry. These must have been done by my nephew earlier today. They are not funny & you can delete them. But, yes I posted the Santana entries as 82.45.1.145.

Yes, I asked because I was concerned about the rash of vandalism to The Chris Moyles Show today which included edits from your own IP address. With respect to the link you added to Carlos Santana, unofficial fansites are generally removed because they are not a reliable source of information, making them inappropriate for inclusion in an encyclopedia such as Misplaced Pages. If you have concerns regarding any other article, such as one which links to an Amazon website as you've suggested, please do not hesitate to bring it to my attention so that it may be dealt with accordingly. Best regards, Hall Monitor 20:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Chokesoncock vandal

Was just going threw the new user log and discovered this wasn't blocked: Chokesoncock (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Is there a block in order here? SWD316 22:00, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Yes, I do believe that this qualifies as an inappropriate user name, as covered by our blocking policy. This account has been blocked and the owner notified should he or she wish to select an alternate name. Best regards, Hall Monitor 22:10, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

10 Christian biographies nominated for deletion

Thanks for voicing your opinion on several of the Christian biographies that A.J.A. nominated for deletion, yesterday. Here are several others that could use your input:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Louisiana_Baptist_University_people_%28second_nomination%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ron_Moseley http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mike_Randall http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/James_Combs http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Neal_Weaver http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Greg_Baker http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_Dorim_Kim

God bless, --Jason Gastrich 22:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jason. Yes, I am aware of the series of nominations made by A.J.A. yesterday. I will review the additional links you've provided as time permits, and comment if I feel that I have something insightful to share. Best regards, Hall Monitor 22:21, 18 January 2006 (UTC)