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Thank you for your support

Unfortunately, my RFA was closed recently with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your support and I hope I can count on it in the future. Even though it didn't pass, it had a nearly 2 to 1 ratio of support and I am quite encouraged by those results. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns that were brought up and resubmit in a few months. If you would like to assist in my betterment and/or co-nominate me in the future, please let me know on my talk page. Special thanks go to Schmidt, , TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 —

Poll on Ireland article names

A poll has been set up at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Ireland_Collaboration/Poll on Ireland article names. This is a formal vote regarding the naming of the Ireland and Republic of Ireland and possibly the Ireland (disambiguation) pages. The result of this poll will be binding on the affected article names for a period of two years. This poll arose from the Ireland article names case at the Arbitration Committee and the Ireland Collaboration Project. The order that the choices appear in the list has been generated randomly. Voting will end at 21:00 (UTC) of the evening of 13 September 2009 (that is 22:00 IST and BST).

Happy Thanksgiving!

I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, --A Nobody 06:51, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

A Nobody is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Flaming/MC2008}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

To those who make Good Arguments, who are appreciative, or supportive. Sincerely, --A Nobody 22:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

RfD nomination of How do you edit an article

I have nominated How do you edit an article (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. — The Man in Question (in question) 23:00, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey!

You need to edit more. :) Everyking (talk) 05:11, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I miss you! ceranthor 00:20, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I miss you guys too! Thanks so much for the note. :) FlyingToaster 04:19, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

File:2714257513 68b70c96c1 b.jpg listed for deletion

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SF Meetup #11

In the area? You're invited to
San Francisco Meetup # 11
	Date: Saturday, February 6th, 2010
	Time: 15:00 (3PM)
	Place: WMFoundation offices
prev: Meetup 10 - next: Meetup 12

This is posted to the groups by request. Please sign up on the Invite list for future announcements. Thanks. --ShakataGaNai 23:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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Why did you revert the comment I left on the National Anthem of England page?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.157.16 (talk) 15:01, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright no worries. 82.1.157.16 (talk) 15:06, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Chloe edney

Aww...
Nice to see you back again, by the way (however long or short the stay is you're always welcome), kind regards, Spitfire 15:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Huatung Highway

Thanks for the removal of speedy-delete and insertion of under-construction tag. Boy, can't the bots give us a few minutes to kick start a new page nowadays? ;) Fred Hsu (talk) 03:04, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Copyvio problems at Irish School of Ecumenics

Hi FlyingToaster. I'm just letting you know that I have tagged Irish School of Ecumenics, an article you created, as a copyright violation. I'd appreciate if you could rewrite it. Thanks, Theleftorium 22:15, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Np, I'll do it after work. FlyingToaster 22:20, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Greetings

The following has been moved here by myself. It was originally posted on Giano's talk page. Giano removed it from his talk page and paste it to WP:AN. I am moving it from WP:AN to here. FlyingToaster 22:31, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

The following has been moved by me (Giano) from my talk as it is clearly meant for a wider audience than mu humble talk page - delete it of you want, just don't return to sender.  Giano  22:27, 22 February 2010 (UTC) Hello, Giano. I don't believe we've ever spoken directly, until now. Perhaps speaking to you now is a bad idea, but especially if I'm going to leave forever, I feel like I need to know: why do you have such strong feelings towards me? I understand that you do not think highly of IRC, and that you don't think my work here is of high quality, and you didn't have a high opinion of my friend Neuro. But why is this personal to you? I'm not interested in arguing... I'm just curious. FlyingToaster 05:10, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

• Regarding your first point, it's not possible to be personal with something called a "Flying Toaster" which one has never met or even interacted, so let's kill that one stone dead. I am completely indifferent to whether you stay or leave. However, I am not completely indifferent to "your" work because much of it is not your work is it? I find it a disgrace, if not totally surprising, that a person who has so little knowledge of Misplaced Pages and its content's authenticity can garner tens of votes for their adminship off-site on IRC to such an extent that they can even win that Adminship. You only resigned your tools because, after you were exposed, an overwhelming number of people agreed with me. Even now, you seem to feel you have been wronged and have done little to redress you blatant breach of copyright law. Yes, law! We rightly don't do legal threats here, but even Wikipedians are subject to the law. Your editing and ignorance brought the project into disrepute; that, cannot be tolerated. As you waltz back here, you appear surprised and wounded not to be welcomed back and instantly promoted to Admin - I find that astounding. Regarding your friend Neuro, isn't he the person who had to apologise for libelling me on a the website of a highly respected national newspaper? - so I don't think we really need to go there - do we? I survive here because on occasions I am bloody useful to the project - when you can say honestly the same then I may feel more kindly disposed towards you. You might also like to note that one does not need Admins' tools to have power here. In fact, one can often be more powerful without the tools.  Giano  08:15, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. I did want to address a few of your points.

1. I never asked anyone on IRC to vote for me. I assure you those logs would have surfaced if I did; there were several people looking for them.
2. I had no idea about neuro's off-wiki comment when I nominated him for admin. He'd forgotten about it himself. When they came to light, he and I discussed them and decided he should withdraw. Had they come to light earlier, I would not have nominated him. I don't endorse that kind of behavior against anyone.
3. I don't like writing articles much. People like you are incredible at it. I just liked taking care of backlogs, and that's all I wanted to do. If you'll look at my edit history, you'll see writing articles is an incredibly small portion of what I was doing. I was maintaining, not creating. I wanted better tools to fight backlogs, and knew I should at least get some practice writing articles before an RfA, so I tried a few. Parts of those were insufficiently paraphrased - an easily fixable problem - and now I'm basically being told I should retire my account in a black mark over it. If Peter Damian had brought article concerns to light a week before my RfA, I would've failed, learned, and passed in three months. Since they were brought up immediately after my RfA, people seem to think I can never again be in good standing, and even creating a new account is some form of treachery. And really, after people were trying to disturb my off-wiki life over this, is it really worth all the pain just to fight vandalism? I'm sure you can understand my frustration. A simple mistake over something I was doing only for practice means I can never do what I actually want to do, which is valuable to this project if you value its contents. As an article creator, at least you will always be able to do what you want to do, and you do it well.

Anyway, you don't need to respond if you don't want. I just felt there was something unresolved with you, and I should give you the opportunity to tell me what it is directly. Sincerely, FlyingToaster 18:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind me dropping in here FT (and Giacomo), but I commend your civil reply here to Giano, who to my mind worded his comments to you here and on WP:AN more harshly than was necessary (though I do agree with the gist of his concerns). I also wanted to point out that I don't think most people were saying you "should retire account in a black mark over it," meaning, I assume, that you should retire it because you "can never again be in good standing." I think some, including me and also Durova, were saying you should move on to another account if you were still concerned about harassment stemming from the last incident. If that's not a major worry for you at this point I would strongly encourage you to continue editing as FlyingToaster, and this is what most others said as well. Only a couple people seemed to be saying you needed to start over with a new account because this one was sullied, and I think that was bad advice. The key messages I would take away from the AN thread if I were you (and obviously you don't need to listen to me) would be as follows: 1) An RfA would be necessary if you want to regain adminship, and the AN thread did rub some people the wrong way; 2) People definitely still want you to stay here as a contributor and encourage you to get back into the mix; 3) That should start with cleaning up any copyright problems on articles you created or expanded; 4) After x amount of time making good contributions and demonstrating that past problems have been remedied a number of people would be willing to consider supporting you again at RfA. Obviously there are some who will never be willing to offer support and will essentially oppose automatically, but a large number of others will be willing to give you a second chance. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 18:51, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

FT. I concur with BigTimePeace. There are a number of users who are deeply upset by off wiki discussions that then have ramifications on wiki, but that doesn't mean that all IRC users are contentious any more than everyone who posts at WR is. Until the copyvio business you were supported at RFA by a large enough majority to constitute consensus. Fix the copyvio stuff and you could make admin yet, but I'd suggest forgetting about RFA for a few months. As for Giano, you've offered an olive branch, no need to interact with him again if you don't want to. ϢereSpielChequers 22:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, WereSpielChequers. I have no intention of contacting Giano again. FlyingToaster 23:16, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/FlyingToaster

To facilitate the review of your contributions for copyright problems, a contributor copyright investigation has been opened in your name. See Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/FlyingToaster. MER-C 03:18, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Hope to see you

Just wanted you to know I read you message on your User page and from time to time I feel the same way, I hope to never see that dreaded "Last Straw". No matter what kind of people are here it's still a great place. Have a great day, hope to see you back ! Mlpearc MESSAGE 13:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Your draft of Irish School of Ecumenics

After reviewing the source article that came due to close today on WP:CP, I also noted that your userspace draft began as a direct copy of your infringing article. Your rewrite, in particular in its step-by-step approach, constitutes an unauthorized Derivative work of the original and remains a copyvio. On top of that, even in its draft state, the parts you had rewritten remain a close paraphrase of the sources.

The way you're going about this is, unfortunately, a surefire method to produce more of the same issues. To minimize the risks of perpetuating the problems, I've found it helps to start with acting as if copying and pasting did not exist in the first place. Reading your sources, then walk away doing something completely different for an hour or two, then summing these up in a new article is an approach that tends to produce text that is much more your own, and avoids turns of phrases or overall structure borrowed from the source. That being said, it becomes increasingly difficult to do so with every attempt.

I understand that this is disheartening. Alas, once an article has been identified as posing a copyright issue, there is little room left to produce borderline replacement text. The new effort has to be in the clear, and this was clearly not the case here. We do however appreciate the effort provided and are willing to help you with the cleanup effort to produce such in-the-clear content. MLauba (talk) 10:39, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

That really is the only way. I'm old enough to remember when the admonishment "do not write essays with scissors and paste" was meant literally - modern tools have only made it worse. The only way to avoid creating a derivative work is to treat all sources as if they are in library books, and you are making notes. Structure the article how you want to get the information across, then fit your notes into that structure without looking back at the source text (as if the book is still in the library). Only go back over the sources after you have done this, to make sure you haven't missed or misinterpreted, or incorrectly ascribed. Rewriting paragraph/section by paragraph/section is guaranteed to produce problems.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Morgan "Bill" Evans

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Argeseanu Gheorghe2.jpg

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Grrr...

Damn, I just can't stop checking if you came back. --Sushiflinger (Goldblattster) (talk!) 01:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Harry Q. Bovik

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Still thinking of you

Will she come back? You may not, and that's okay. I hope you are doing well and being good. TheSavageNorwegian 02:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)