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Please explain to me what you mean by this edit summary. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 23:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I was about to ask the same question and am not sure how to respond to it. See Misplaced Pages:Civility, really. —Eternal Equinox | talk 23:22, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

In case you do not realize, that sort of behaviour isn't tolerated on Misplaced Pages. Do not tell someone "Shoo!" when they try to work something out with you. That is unacceptable. This would be real juicy evidence if a RFC is to be run. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 20:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Just to let you know. I have no problem blocking you. Do not tell me "shoo" when I try to talk to you. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 21:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Blocking for saying 'shoo'? I am sure that's not even remotely justifiable according to any policy. Giano's edit summary was aimed at someone else entirely, anyway, and I can't honestly see how it could be construed as uncivil even if you didn't realise that. Worldtraveller 21:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
You'd block someone for saying "shoo"? We don't block for WP:CIVIL violations, unless if they become disruptive to Misplaced Pages, or take the form of harrassment. Open up an RFC or something if you find this level of incivilty unacceptable -- bearing in mind Giano's just asking someone to leave them alone on his talk page -- but don't try to intimidate with block threats. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:21, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
In case you didnt realise, his comment was not aimed at someone else, it was aimed at E.E for some reason that I am unable to get into now. Anyway, by calling EE that, and telling him "shoo" when he tries to work it out with him, Giano is violating the personal attacks policy (read the examples). And when an administartor steps in to querry, he tells me "shoo", linking to some poision or insecticide article (which I find extremely offensive). That is a very valid reason to block →but that is if he does it again.Oran e (t) (c) (e) 21:29, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • You are an an administrator?! - Well you and "Eternal" know perfectly well what I meant, now go away, and stop being tedious. Shoo! Giano | talk 21:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I just read the examples on WP:NPA. I guess I could agree that calling EE "hollow" could be construed as a mild personal attack... maybe. But "shoo" isn't a personal attack, and that's what you've been complaining about. There's no policy that requires Giano to work anything out with EE, by the way. Even if the "hollow" comment and the "shoo" were a personal attack, you are way out of line with the block threats. I quote from WP:NPA: 'In extreme cases, an attacker may be blocked under the "disruption" clause of the blocking policy, though the practice is almost always controversial.' This is not even close to an extreme case - and if you are truly "extremely offended" by "shoo", I suggest to you that you may be too thin-skinned to be trusted with the admin tools. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Excuse me? Because a person is offended when someone calls him poison/insecticide and tells him to "shoo" like he is an animal, that means that he is an incompetent administrator? What a narrow-minded and downright distorted view of the world you must have. I got my promotion because I work hard, I'm respectful and responsible (well at least the 80+ people who supported me thought so). You say I am way out of line, but you have said nothing to Giano who repeatedly asserts that Hollow (who I've heard had done some very horrible things) is E.E, and when the EE tries to work it out, he tells him "shoo" like he dismissing someone of lesser importance. And, being an Advocate and Admin, I simply try to tell him that he is making a personal attact, and he acts this way (which is encouraged by you comments towards me). "calvary...lurking around the corner?" so this is a friendship thing? In any case, I dont care. I have every right to tell him that, and if you are anyone else have any concerns about my actions, you know who to report to. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 18:02, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

What I find most interesting is that Giano had the intention of calling me "hollow", when, as noted by Worldtraveller, it was clearly aimed at Hollow Wilerding. I ask of you to refrain from making such statements in the future because I am not connected to Miss Wilerding in any way with the exception of volunteering at the library she used to terrorize before becoming indefinitely banned. Also, I would appreciate it if you did not bold two of your oppose votes here because if you are attempting to showcase additional objections, you are being decisive and unfair. However, if this was not your intention, then I apologize. From here on out, please don't compare me to HW: I dislike it. —Eternal Equinox | talk 01:02, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I dare say you do. Goodness me that library is a busy place, isn't it? All you volunteers beaverng away writing Misplaced Pages, is there any room on the computers for the public? - do the volunteers ever have time to stack a shelf - or have they volunteered for something else? Must be a very badly managed place indeed. Someone in authority is showing lack of supervision and should be dismissed for incompetence, and as for allowing that nasty old Hollow Wilerding to terrorise the place. It must have been dreadful for you all. You have my sympathy. However, what a coincidence that you should all be there together, I had no idea Canada was such a small parochial place - does the country have another library or is that the only one? I'm completely riveted - is there a charity one can donate to, providing Canada with a better library service? Do let me know I'm poised over my cheque book. Giano | talk 17:26, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
    • LOL! That's really funny! Maybe we can send the Habitat for Humanity volunteers to Toronto when they're done in New Orleans to build another public library. HeyNow10029 04:54, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

MMM. Giano, you are so dark. lol. Boy, you can know when someone has had a bad childhood. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 17:33, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Oh Orane! surely not you too, cramped up in that dreadful library - fighting over the computers. What can we in the privileged South do to help? - Can we send old computers, old paperbacks we have finished with - just say the word. Improving the Canadian Library Service will become my cause celebre. Giano | talk 17:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
No! That's your comeback? Really? I'm very disappointed. mmm, I see you have a lot to learn. I would school you, but 1)I have a reputation to uphold, 2)I will not have a back and forth personal attack game with you — Im above that, and 3)I have school work to do. Your future posts will be ignored. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 18:07, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Orane I've just had a look at your page and see you are 18 and "look 16". I would not have been so scathing to you if I had known of your youth. Most of the people (with the odd exception) who post on this page are considerably older and thus more experienced in the silly foibles of human nature. You have a touching naivety and trust - which is charming in one of your age, and I don't want to be the one to disillusion you. However, the world is a nasty place full of people who are not always what they seem. Now get on with your school work, have a nice life, and have fun with kids your own age. Giano | talk 18:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Thank you. I should apologise for my part in the incident, as I'm not entirely innocent. I know that it was a stretch to threaten a block, and I do apologise (I may have been an admin for 5 mths, but I'm still "learning"). See you around. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 19:53, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
No problem! Enjoy being young while you are! - It's a fleeting experience , believe me! Giano | talk 20:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Giano, you'd best refrain from making derogatory statements towards Canadians — I'll register your above post following my most recent as a personal attack. Do not call somebody out for something you are 100% not aware of; I don't use a public computer but instead one of the catalogue monitors. The library chain is one of ten and is separate from the Toronto Public Library. If you further your negative remarks, I'm afraid that I'll have to leave a message at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard. —Eternal Equinox | talk 22:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

The nerve of you Giano. To call someone out for using a public computer when they clearly use a catalogue monitor. And to run to the assumption that there is only one library in Canada when there are clearly ten!! How DARE you! Some people have no shame! I hope they throw the book at you! lol. HeyNow10029 04:58, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Eternal, (may I call you Eternal?) this is terrible - I've just realised you thought I was making a personal attack - a dreadful accusation. Perish the thought. My edit summary meant I thought you altering my edit was a little hollow (i.e. meaningless) look I used a non-capitalised "h", and most certainly not a capital "H" as in Hollow. More importantly, what on earth could possibly make me think you are Hollow Wilerding?
I love the Canadian people, but sadly most of my knowledge is only gained from your horrendous experiences. I've never been a library volunteer (in fact as a student I never volunteered for anything preferring to idle my life away playing football, boxing, lying in bed, and various other youthful and unhealthy pursuits) So I regard you as an example of a model student - a subject of aspiration. I have no idea what a "catalogue monitor" is (Aged 7, I was briefly a "Chalk Monitor" at school, until I was sacked for incompetence - is that similar?) but the fact the volunteers all use them to write Misplaced Pages is further example of the wisdom, tolerance and luxury of the Canadian Library System. (Knowing it has ten branches, I've revised my opinion) in fact I've linked it - in the hope you will write your next article on it. Are there very many other volunteers there like you? - That would be a blessing indeed. That a young man aged just 21, chooses to forgo the depravities and temptations of student life to be a Library Volunteer gives me hope for the human race.
I am concerned though about you - are you saying although you were not in the same library building precisely as the terrible Hollow - she still terrorised you and all ten libraries - it's just too awful to contemplate. I hope the Canadian Library Service paid for you all to have some trauma counselling afterwards - these things can manifest themselves years later in various forms - my Great Aunt Annunziata used to throw herself, her rosary, and her dog into a wardrobe every time a Pam-Am plane flew over Palermo for years after the war ended - it was difficult for her when the tourist era began. I grew up in the days of the Mafiosi but even those wicked men allowed Library Volunteers, upstanding young men like yourself, and "catalogue monitors" to go unmolested. Trauma and being terrorised by a woman, can have terrible side effects - as you say on your talk page, you have your love life to consider. So you make sure you have some counselling.
Hollow was a terrible woman, a positive Banshee, she terrorised us here too (of course you weren't here then were you?) she used to threaten to report people or take legal action every time she was crossed. (IMO) She should have been permanently banned from the FAC page for her behaviour. Vote stacking, insults and threats - Oh it was a terrible time. Respected and long standing editors were desperately unhappy, not me of course - I know just how to deal with people like that. If only we were all as wise here as the Canadian Library Service who have banned her for ever. Don't you agree?
Anyhow Eternal, I'd like to pay you a complement, I just love your name. I love all names with a galactic air for example Solar Serenity, Eternal Equinox they are evocative names indeed. One thinks of the night sky over Winnipeg, or wherever your library is. I'm thinking of having a sock called Luna Eclipse what do you think of that? Finally, there is no need to link my name at the beginning of every message on this page. I never forget who I am. Best wishes Giano | talk 11:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
O Gia O Luna Sea, uh-oh, no, some Japanese popsters have taken that one, O Serenissimo, I don't know why I happened to pop over to your page, but I did. What a laugh. Clearly you're having way too much fun, and I say: Keep it up! (If "shoo" really is outlawed, for the next defensive weapon in your arsenal try "Begone!") -- Hoary 11:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Scaramouche! Scaramouche! Will you do the fandango? -- ALoan (Talk) 13:37, 10 March 2006 (UTC)