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Older discussion (2004)
"PK" is a slang term used among Christians and heard by others. If they do not know what a PK is, it will not be found in the dictionary or in the encyclopedia.
There are terms such as "Xian" meaning Christian on this site. "PK" is another one of those slang terms that is used by sone and not everybody knows. Therefore, they may come here looking for a definition.
This is where I found "Xian."
- KagomeShuko, can you sign (~~~~) your edits on talk pages, thanks Mike ~ mlk 06:51, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC) ~
Does anyone else it would be great if "Pastor's Kid" was a wikipedia category/list? Off the top of my head there's Condaleeza Rice, John Ashcroft, Britney Spears... and way more.
-Genesis Winter
Article only portrays two stereotypes (2007)
This article only portrays two stereotypes, the "rebellious teen" and the "holier than thou". It doesn't really discuss the problems and resentments that can build up. The pressure on the kids to have exemplary behavior and not cause trouble for the father, combined with the father who is very busy, but seems to have unlimited time for everybody else but the family. This profession is a difficult one to balance the demands of the job and the family, the fathers often come home emotionally drained by continuous contact with people and their problems, to collapse at home, with the family feeling pressure not to add their own problems to the burdens already on the father. Perhaps a third stereotype that also has some truth would be the kids that feel pressure to always be perfect, friendly and happy, and that have learned to repress their own feelings and sense of abandonment.--Silverback 09:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
This third stereotype is probably the most widespread amongst the many PKs I grew up with. PKs that were all happy, friendly, polite, the perfect children as far as the outside world was concerned. Seeing how we grew up, and the many that have had unhappy lives makes you wonder just how many of those perfect children were deeply troubled underneath. Our feelings were not the important ones, PKs were there to serve the parish, trained not to mind when parents had no time for them. This sense of abandonment and of being unlovable as a result of not having attention lavished on one must surely have a big effect on adult relationships. The scars run deep, but one feels they must always be hidden. How many attract partners and then feel beholden to stay with them because of that sense of duty implanted as a child? Surely a fascinating subject for psychological studies.
Scrundle 11:29, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
General discussion and AfD (2011)
New to editing on WikiPedia so if I screw up protocol or something, just let me know.
Silverback and Scrundle have it. As a PK myself, I can attest to this third stereotype... I was actually quite disappointed to see the phenomenon so poorly represented in this article. (I would love to edit it, but as I said, I'm a bit nervous about breaching WikiPedia protocol for editing, bibliography and so on.) We weren't an unhappy family as a whole, but there was a growing sense of resentment over things like, for example, never being able to go fishing with my dad because he was too busy with counseling appointments. As a family we were all involved in the ministry, so it wasn't like Dad was the only one engaged in things, but it all left very little time for us to be family and do crazy things like take vacations.
There's more to the story than just 3 stereotypes, though. Scrundle hit on part of it. Having been indoctrinated to be both of service to a community and to keep our issues on the down-low, we often end up in relationships that aren't ideal and have issues getting out of them. Communication issues abound due to the "seen and not heard" aspect of our childhoods. Many of us will work to exhaustion to "fix" these relationships (and even partners), mirroring our parents' role as marriage and family counsellors. Anecdotally, we have a predisposition to codependence due to our need to be loved and willingness to kill ourselves to maintain a relationship.
The problem is that I don't know of any works that express these things, so the bibliography would be a bit short and I know that personal observations and experience aren't considered to meet the standards of WikiPedia.
--ArmchairDeity (talk) 15:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I would like to have such information added to the article. I'm sure there are other than the three stereotypes. Unfortunately, I have not had the time to edit wikipedia articles or research such things. However, I've heard there are many books about "PKs." I am not sure what wikipedia's standards are at the moment, though I do know about not allowing personal observation and experience only. Stein Auf! KagomeShuko (talk) 03:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)