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November 17

Copyright question

Dear Editors: This Afc submission: Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Ollie A. Randall is copied from HERE, but there is a note under the copyright declaration that appears to allow reproduction, provided that credit is given. Is a citation enough credit? The text would have to be edited to remove POV; would that be acceptable? It seems to me that it would have to be kept the same or not used. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

The statement on that site: "Please credit the University of Minnesota Libraries if you copy or reproduce material from this page." is not exactly an explicit grant of a free license. (For one thing it doesn't clearly grant permission to modify the quoted content.) I wouldn't accept it unless an email were sent to the contact address and an explicit permission response was received and filed with OTRS. I think it would be far easier to rewrite the content using the page as a source. But you could ask at Misplaced Pages:Copyright problems if you wish. DES 03:28, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

secondary or tertiary sources

If i interview an author and then publish the interview, when i summarize the interview would the summarization of the interview be secondary or a tertiary source? i am having trouble with my references. everything is cited and i have permission from the author to write about them on wikipedia and share their biography. "This article relies on references to primary sources. Please add references to secondary or tertiary sources. (November 2013)" Tyffani_Clark_Kemp thank you for any help! -- -- MrJoseOtero (talk) 03:01, 17 November 2013‎ (UTC)

Firstly no need to use {{helpme}} on the help desk, DES 03:06, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

(e/c)@MrJoseOtero. Well your premise is based on an non-starter. You and your website are not a reliably published source and so whether you call it primary or secondary or tertiary, its not an acceptable source for Misplaced Pages content. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:12, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Secondly, You should only cite your own work if it is published under independant editorial control, such as in a peer-reviewed journal, or in a magazine with strict editorial policies and a reputation for fact checkinmg, or if it is a book published by a major publisher, or the like. See WP:SELFCITE DES 03:15, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Thirdly, an interview with the subject of an article is mostly considered to be a primary source, as much of the content is provided by the person being interviewed. Only the interviewer's questions or comments might be a secondary source, and then only if it is so published as to be a reliable source. DES 03:15, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Fourthly and finally, you should seek out independent secondary reliable sources which discuss the subject in some detail. If the subject is notable, you should be able to find them. DES 03:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

In an interview there are two types of information. Usually, what the interviewer has published is a secondary source, and what the interviewee has said is a primary source. However, if the interviewer is also the person making the Misplaced Pages article, then this would be original research (not allowed), particularly if the interview is not published in a reliable publication which is overseen by an editor/fact checker as explained above. —Anne Delong (talk) 03:13, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

If the interveiw were to be published by a reliable source, it is not original research even if the interviewer is also the wikipedia editor. But if it was published on a website run by the interviewer, it shouldn't normally be used at all, not even as a primary source, under WP:SELFPUB. DES 03:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

The statements made by the person interviewed is not independent of the person, so it has limited usage in a Misplaced Pages biography of that person. The statements by the interviewer are independent, but if you are the interviewer and are also trying to post a summary of them in Misplaced Pages, then that runs against WP:COI. if you are trying to write a Misplaced Pages Biography about the author Tyffani Clark Kemp, then the work she has produced is not independent of Tyffani Clark Kemp and cannot be used as a source for a Misplaced Pages biography on her. -- Jreferee (talk) 07:28, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Jreferee is quite correct that statemetns made by the subject of an article are not independent, but it is not correct that such sources "cannot be used" here. Indeed sometimes it is vital to cite non-independent sources to clearly document the views and statements of the subject. (see WP:PRIMARY and WP:SELFPUB for the uses and limitations non the uses of such sources.) However, such sources cannot be the sole sources for an article, particularly a biography. They do nothing to help establish notability. There must be sufficient sources that ARE independent (and reliable to establish notability, and the view(s) that others have taken of the subject. Moreover, an interview in which the interviewer is also the drafter of the article is already quite dubious -- if it is not published by a reliable publication, independent of both source and interviewer, with a reputation for editorial oversight, then i would say it has no place here at all. DES 14:29, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

• The interview in toto is primary. But here it does not appear to be from a WP:Verifiable, WP:Reliable Source. A straight summary that merely relates the content of the interview is also primary. Analysis, opinion, commentary upon, and conclusions made by the summarizer would be secondary but here appear to not be from a WP:Verifiable, WP:Reliable Source and maybe WP:OR. Alanscottwalker (talk) 14:51, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Using mobile version of Misplaced Pages query

Hello,

Straight up, I hope that this is the correct area to post this query, if not, I apologise and appreciate redirection.

Okay, I mainly use the mobile version of Misplaced Pages and find that if I click on a link that provides more details about a topic that when I go forward between the more detailed page and back to the main page, that the main page contracts the sub-category that I was looking at. This is frustrating as I have to re-expand the sub-category.

Having read the above paragraph, I can appreciate that this explanation is quite confusing, so I will provide example as below of the issue:

Main page - Grenada

Sub-category : History

Link within s-c : History of Grenada

Now, if I use the back button to return to the sub-category page, the section 'History' has contracted, rather than staying expanded (which I believe happens with the desktop version).

Thank you

Nick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sera2775 (talk • contribs) 03:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Nick. If I understand correctly, what you are talking about is that when you have opened a section on a page, then click a wikilink to go to another page, and then use the back button on your phone to return to the original page, the section is no longer open. Is that right? (I was confused by your mention of categories: these are something else on Misplaced Pages, but don't normally show on the mobile version).

If that's it, I see your problem, but I doubt there's much can be done about it. (It doesn't arise on the desktop version, because sections are not opened and closed in that way.) The app doesn't know whether or not you are going to return to a page, so it would have to keep a record of what section you opened in every page you visited, which would be quite a burden on its memory. I may be wrong though, as I am not familiar with how the app is coded. The best place to ask is on the Village pump, technical page. --ColinFine (talk) 12:28, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

• Can Misplaced Pages be edited by mobile users? Last I tried it was impossible to log in through a mobile device. Even reading on a mobile is a problem for me because categories do not show up. XOttawahitech (talk)

List not under header

I have created a list of skyscrapers using referenced information. I created a new header to place the list under, however the list I have created has skipped my header and gone beneath a header underneath the one I created. Any help thanks?

List of cities with the most skyscrapers

My header is "List of cities by number of completed skyscrapers" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Logicgold (talk • contribs) 05:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

I revised how the table was closed, from using "|-}" to using "|}". The List of cities with the most skyscrapers page advertises the site skyscrapercenter.com by using it as its main source. Just like people contributing to Misplaced Pages, skyscrapercenter.com site seems to get information from its users. A difference is that Skyscraper Source Media figured out a way to sell publishing rights for the use of its materials, -- Jreferee (talk) 07:13, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

print size

Any way to enlarge print on site?```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:9FC0:37:1DCF:7ED6:DFB9:F641 (talk) 12:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello. This is a function of your browser, not of Misplaced Pages. Most browser let you increase the font size by pressing Ctrl and + together, or by rolling the mouse wheel while you hold down Ctrl. --ColinFine (talk) 12:32, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

new article on James Le Jeune Irish Artist

I have written an article about James Le Jeune and I am not sure it is in the right place for someone to review and give me feedback, please can someone help me with this Enuejel (talk) 13:51, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

It's at User:Enuejel/James George Le Jeune. All I can do for now.... Dismas| 14:25, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

I have (in this edit) made the format more standard, and added a number of wiki links. But any reviewer would say the primary problem is that no references are cited. See referencing for beginners and you might want to read Your first article. DES 14:46, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Your first article effort is very good. You appear to have complied of individual sentence summaries of reliable sources that are independent of the topic and put them in context via chronologically ordering the information. Advise, when you write a sentence, it is much easier to add a source at the end of it at that time to show others where it came from rather than trying to figure out where it came from later on. I updated the page. A few more references and I think it will be ready to be moved to article space today. You also will want to nominate the article at Template talk:Did you know so that it is linked from Misplaced Pages's Main Page. Keep up the good work. -- Jreferee (talk) 16:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes it does look good, particularly for a first effort. However there is only one source currently cited, and that is linked to only a snippet view in Google books which shows only a single paragraph, so it is hard to tell whether the rest is in fact "individual sentence summaries of reliable sources that are independent of the topic" or not. I hope it is. Add several additional references, supporting the main points of the article, and I would agree that it is ready to go. DES 17:58, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I got a message that I haven't nominated this article properly, I can't seem to work it out, can someone do it for me, sorry but I am a bit flummoxed by the site. Am finding it difficult to leave a message on the DYK page! I do have a close connection but I have tried to be totally neutral, I feel he is well over due a page here. Thank you for all your help with it, much better then I could have ever done.

economy

who can we protect the inflation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.189.229.172 (talk) 14:41, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Misplaced Pages itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. DES 14:48, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Looks like a WP:HOMEWORK question to me.--ukexpat (talk) 15:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Username (not) taken

Hello Misplaced Pages Community, I just registered and wanted to use "Lommes" as my username, as it is my surname and twitter handle. However, the registration form says "Account creation error Cannot create account: the requested username is already taken in the unified login system". So I thought someone else has already taken the account. Point is, that does not seem to be the case. I checked all the 16 wikis on Wikimedia.org and all of them give me the same message "User account "Lommes" is not registered." What am i missing, and how can I get the "Lommes" username. Best, Daniel Lommes — Preceding unsigned comment added by DLommes (talk • contribs) 16:25, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

The unified login system includes all the hundreds of different language versions of Misplaced Pages, as well as the many language-specific versions of Wiktionary, as well as wikiquote, wikidata, wikimedia commons and many others. (see ). Let me see what I can find out. DES 18:01, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

DLommes, according to this report that name was active on the German-language Misplaced Pages, making only 2 edits, the last one in 2007. this might qualify for Usurpation although usually that is only for unused accounts with NO edits at all, and usually is only done for somewhat established editors, as you can read on the page I linked. I suggest that you settle for "DLommes". DES 18:14, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

de:Spezial:Beiträge/Lommes shows the two edits were to a talk page and not an article. I don't know how strict they are but you can try making a usurpation request at de:Misplaced Pages:Benutzernamen ändern/Benutzernamens-Übernahme. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:00, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

What is the size limit on wiki-pages?

I am just curious to find out what the maximum page length (in bytes) is on wikipedia, and is there a place that gathers statistics and displays the longest ones? Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 17:34, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure there is an exact limit defined - usually people get fed up with the length of time taken to load a page , or are timed out when trying to edit it. As for the longest pages, please see Special:Longpages Arjayay (talk) 17:43, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Special:LongPages lists the longest articles in Misplaced Pages. (Note: That is only *articles* i.e., pages in ns0, not other namespaces.) So right now, the longest article in English Misplaced Pages is List of United States counties and county equivalents (0.59 MB). As for the maximum page size, it is controlled by $wgMaxArticleSize. It is set to 2000 in English Misplaced Pages. . So 1.95312 MB is the maximum technically possible size of an article. Regards, --Glaisher 17:47, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Clarification of the article which splits it into two -- how to?

Presently wiki has an article Transient electromagnetics, (also time-domain electromagnetics / TDEM), which must be corrected. The wiki search "time-domain electromagnetics" refers exclusively to this article, giving the user a wrong belief that it covers all the meaning of the term. In fact, the search must be directed to an ambiguity-resolving page with two entries:

• Time-domain electromagnetics (one of two general ansätze for the description of electromagnetic wave motion)
• Time-domain electromagnetics (geophysical exploration technique)

The first article is absent in wiki, and I am going to write it as soon as the structure will be established (there are a lot of trustable academic sources see, e.g., http://www.amazon.co.uk/Domain-Electromagnetics-Academic-Press-Engineering/dp/0125801904 ). The second article is what we have now as a source for both Transient electromagnetics and time-domain electromagnetics. I do believe that such clarification will not prejudice the significance of this existing article.

I did not understand how such changes can be made. Can someone enlighten me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajsmirnov (talk • contribs) 18:04, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Simply create the new page, with proper references, at a proper title. Misplaced Pages does not normally create disambiguation pages when there are only articles for two meanings of a term. Instead a Hatnote often using {{about}} or {{for}} is placed at the top of each page. But you need not worry over-much about that, other editors can and will add such notes if you get the article live. You can add a note on the talk page of each article about the connection between them. DES 18:24, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

list of water plants

Hello crew,

I guess it will be a great idea to add up a list of water plants, this should help sudents n teachers.. i was unable to find one for teaching purposes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.21.236.90 (talk) 18:55, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Maybe a category would be better than a list. Mlpearc (open channel) 19:11, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

As in Category:Aquatic plants? - Arjayay (talk) 19:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Revert submission

Can you revert the submission of a sandbox article?Julius Eugen (talk) 20:47, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, just click the "View history" tab and then the "undo" link at the edit where you submitted the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:52, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Great. Thanks.Julius Eugen (talk) 21:10, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Printing Pages Of Data Found Online

I have found information on the Islands of the Republic of the Philippines I would like to make copies of, but haven't found how to print the information which is extensive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainorr (talk • contribs) 23:39, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Are you asking about printing from Misplaced Pages, which is primarily a web browser question, or about printing from another source? If you have having difficulty in printing from Misplaced Pages and are following the standard procedures with your web browser, then we would want to know what web browser you are using, and whether you have refreshed your cache. If you are asking how to print from some other source, then this is not a Misplaced Pages question, but you might be able to get an answer at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Computing. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

November 18

Moles

I Searched "Mole & Avogador's Number". In the first article appeared the folowing:

The mole is widely used in chemistry instead of units of mass or volume as a convenient way to express amounts of reactants or of products of chemical reactions. For example, the chemical equation 2 H2 + O2 → 2 H2O implies that 2 mol of dihydrogen (H2) and 1 mol of dioxygen (O2) react to form 2 mol of water (H2O). The mole may also be used to express the number of atoms, ions, or other elementary entities in a given sample of any substance. The concentration of a solution is commonly expressed by its molarity, defined as the number of moles of the dissolved substance per litre of solution.

1. It would only be one mole of "dihydrogen" (H2)since the molecule already is )H2)or it would take two moes of Hydrogen and the one mole of Oxygen as stated. However the Oxygen would be in the form O2 so it would take one mole of oxygen (Ow) and two moles of hydrogen (H2).

Enough said! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TjhBoB (talk • contribs) 00:03, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

This page is for askign questions about how to use Misplaced Pages. I suggest you try Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Science. DES 00:11, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Is the question whether the article is correct? The article is correct as stated. 2 moles of molecular hydrogen and 1 mole of molecular oxygen yield two moles of water. If you have any further questions, as noted, you can go to Misplaced Pages: Reference desk/Science. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:26, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

With the proper formatting in Mole (unit) it says: "For example, the chemical equation 2 H₂ + O₂ → 2 H₂O implies that 2 mol of dihydrogen (H₂) and 1 mol of dioxygen (O₂) react to form 2 mol of water (H₂O)."

This is correct. It sounds like you have overlooked that two and not one mol of water is formed. Fractions are usually disallowed in such equations but if we allowed it then we could instead write "H₂ + ½ O₂ → H₂O implies that 1 mol of dihydrogen (H₂) and half a mol of dioxygen (O₂) react to form 1 mol of water (H₂O)." I guess this is the version you have in mind. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Disable Viet Nam Veteran

Are we as veterans, cannot ask anything of people that needs help,unless they S.S. benefits would be taken away? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whenipassby247 (talk • contribs) 00:49, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean? Is this a Misplaced Pages related question? --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 00:51, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

How to insert a picture?

I have completed article about West Siberian Laika and would like to add some pictures to illustrate. The pictures are my own and I do not need to ask for permission to publish them. I have many pictures of my own dogs and puppies. I also have a few pictures supplied by my close friends and I have their consent, if I need to use them. Ufimych (talk) 02:03, 18 November 2013 (UTC)Vladimir Beregovoy

See Misplaced Pages:Image tutorial. Dismas| 02:07, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Air Vice-Marshal Brian Lewis Robinson RAF Ret'd

I would like to enquire why my name is not to be found among the list of RAF Air Marshals starting with the letter "R" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.42.116.14 (talk) 02:24, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Are you referring to our List of Royal Air Force air chief marshals? As I understand it (RAF ranks aren't my speciality, and I'm relying on our article on the subject), an Air Vice-Marshal is a lower rank, and wouldn't be included. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

If you refer to Category:Royal Air Force air marshals then Misplaced Pages calls that a category and not a list. Categories can only contain Misplaced Pages pages and there is currently no biography about you. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:53, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

A specific third party link syntax incompatable with wiki markup language

Greetings: A third party site (USGS) allows link saving with various display parameters imbeded. This can be executed by pasting into the browser bar but when put into a wikipedia external link the presense of double opening brackets breaks the link. Writing the link contents as a nowiki block within the single outer brackets causes no link to be generated.

(The following <nowiki> </nowiki> inside of single brackets - note that no link is generated)

In late 2013 a means of saving a link "bookmark" was instituted. One such bookmark for this general area may be selected here to show regional earthquakes of all magnitudes for the most recent seven days:%2C]%2C%22overlays%22%3A{%22plates%22%3Atrue%2C%22faults%22%3Atrue}%2C%22viewModes%22%3A{%22map%22%3Atrue%2C%22list%22%3Afalse%2C%22settings%22%3Atrue%2C%22help%22%3Afalse}}]

(Note that if the following link is selected and pasted into the browser's link bar the correct http code is executed by the site - you will get a seismic map presentation)

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#{%22feed%22%3A%227day_all%22%2C%22search%22%3Anull%2C%22sort%22%3A%22newest%22%2C%22basemap%22%3A%22grayscale%22%2C%22autoUpdate%22%3Atrue%2C%22restrictListToMap%22%3Atrue%2C%22timeZone%22%3A%22local%22%2C%22mapposition%22%3A%2C]%2C%22overlays%22%3A{%22plates%22%3Atrue%2C%22faults%22%3Atrue}%2C%22viewModes%22%3A{%22map%22%3Atrue%2C%22list%22%3Afalse%2C%22settings%22%3Atrue%2C%22help%22%3Afalse}}

A workaround is needed for this to be useable within a specific article. If no workaround is possible the parsing engine may need work.

Thank you,

- Leonard G. (talk) 07:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

like this? Maproom (talk) 07:51, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I should explain. The trick is to go through the url, replacing problematic characters with their encodings. In the above, I replaced all { } by %5B %5D %7B %7D respectively. Maybe I didn't need to replace all of them – but what I did worked. The page it leads to is fascinating. It's a scrollable and zoomable map of the world, with every earthquake in the last week shown, its size and colour indicating its magnitude and recentness. And it automatically updates once a minute. Maproom (talk) 12:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Using photographs from the English edition of Misplaced Pages on articles translated to other languages.

I just translated an article from the English Misplaced Pages. I would like to use a couple of images that are "decorating" the english article in the translated one. The images are tagged as "fair use" and do not appear in Wikimedia Commons. Could I still use them since they would be used in the exact same article, but in a different language?PapirosLarous (talk) 07:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Different Wikipedias have different rules about this. I suggest you ask in the help desk (or whatever they call it) of whichever language Misplaced Pages your translated article is for. Maproom (talk) 07:34, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Many other projects do not accept fair use images, because the rules governing them are very specific to US copyright law, and are very different if they exist at all in the copyright law of most other countries. That is part of the reason why they are not accepted on Commons. DES 15:48, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

If the rules of that other Misplaced Pages allow them, you will still need to upload them to that Misplaced Pages: there is no way for one Misplaced Pages to use an image from another one. --ColinFine (talk) 22:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Mike Perlis update on his career

I worked with Mike Perlis at Runners World-Rodale press. He left there in 1985, and worked from 1985 to 1989 at IDG Peterborough, NH. I then worked with Mike in 1989, until he left for Playboy Media Group in 1989.

Larry Eder, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.232.169.6 (talk) 08:07, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I note you had already added this information to Mike Perlis before posting here. However, you have not cited any Reliable sources to corroborate the information. Misplaced Pages aims to have information cited in a reliable independent source that can be checked by any editor, at any time (which excludes your memory). If you worked with Perlis, you probably know where such information might have been published - can you find such a reference?
PS I've also sorted out your empty reference error - Arjayay (talk) 09:20, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

If Perlis left Runners World's in 1985, then how did Runners World replace Perlis as publisher of Runners World's in 1987? -- Jreferee (talk) 16:48, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Translation through google translate

Hi! I am trying to make a translation of the article, which is in Polish. English version is very short and needs to be expanded. I figure out that it is possible to make simple translation through google translate, then correct it and here we go...but hmm, all I can do is I am coming to the translation page then I have no idea what to do, somehow I need to confirm that article...but how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.173.162.130 (talk) 09:55, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

The guidance you need is at Misplaced Pages:Translation. Make sure that you include references to support the content of your English version. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:46, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Please do not just paste a google translation unless you are vey confident in your ability to tidy it up afterwards, and intend to actually do so. Cleaning up a poor translation is an extremely difficult task (take a look at a few articles in Category:Misplaced Pages articles needing cleanup after translation and you'll see what I mean). A much better way is to expand an article a little bit at a time and tidy it as you go--Jac16888 13:14, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Another method would be to first clean up the Google text, in a word processor or in your sandbox, before pasting it into the English article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:40, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

INFORMATION NOT ACCURATE ABOUT NIGERIA NATIONWIDE LEAGUE

Dear Misplaced Pages, I am happy to read an article on Nigeria Nationwide League, but please the information on that article is not accurate and needed to be updated, if you can confirm to read my message I will be glad to give you detailed information about the League as the Executive Secretary of the league. Thank you

Olushola Ogunnowo Executive Secretary Nigeria Nation-Wide League Nigeria Football Federation Wuse, zone 7 Abuja <phone number redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.190.4.173 (talk) 11:17, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

The place to suggest changes is at Talk:Nigeria Nationwide League. Make sure that you provide links to reliable sources independent of your organisation to verify the changes which you propose. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:40, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

how do I add pics to an article?

how do I add pics to my articl? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ewalkerm (talk • contribs) 13:13, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Image tutorial. Dismas| 13:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Republic of Ireland

Why does wikipedia think it can decide the name of a sovereign state above the head of that state. AFAIK republic of Ireland is a football team and nothing else. Is the purpose of wikipedia to be an accurate collection of facts or is it to present its take on reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.55.105.16 (talk) 14:31, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages does not attempt or pretend to decide what the name of a sovereign state is, it merely decides (or more accurately some of its editors decide) how to title it's articles. The article entitled Republic of Ireland starts "Ireland, also known as the Republic of Ireland (Irish: Poblacht na hÉireann), is a sovereign state in Europe..." The article Ireland is about the entire land body, including Northern Ireland. (it starts "Ireland ... is an island to the north-west of continental Europe.") We can not have two articles with the same title, so we must call this one something. Also, my understanding is that "Poblacht na hÉireann" translates approximately as "Republic of Ireland". If, after all that, you think that the article name should be changed, please discuss the matter at Talk:Republic of Ireland, which is the page for suggesting changes in that article. DES 14:45, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Republic of Ireland would usually be the place to discuss the name but in this case it has already been discussed extensively and the page has the box Template:IECOLL-talk which says where to discuss it. See also the "Frequently Asked Questions" box at Talk:Republic of Ireland which only has one question: "Why isn't this article titled Ireland?" PrimeHunter (talk) 15:09, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Editing a German wiki page

I've been asked to update a German page:

de:Sicpa

I've made the edits but can't seem to put the changes live. It says I have 'unmarked changes' or 'unsighted changes' and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. My German is pretty non-existent.

There seems to be a slightly different way of working on the Germn Wiki site to the UK and I can't work it out.

Any help gratefully received.

Iain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iainplunkett (talk • contribs) 14:40, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

This page is about help with using the English-language Misplaced Pages, so we can't always be of much help with other language versions of Misplaced Pages. They are separate projects. However, there is a feature, known as "pending changes" on the English language version, which can be activated for particular pages. When it is active, new edits from unregistered users and, I think, users who are registered but not autoconfirmed, are held in a pending status until another editor accepts them. This is designed as an anti-vandalism tool. The en wikipedia makes very little use of this feature. I believe that the de Misplaced Pages makes more use of it, and it sounds to me as if this is what you encountered. DES 14:51, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you have done nothing wrong. Your edit was saved but hasn't been reviewed yet. This means unregistered users and some registered users will not see the edit at the normal article view https://de.wikipedia.org/Sicpa until a German editor reviews it and either accepts or rejects it. I cannot say when this will happen. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:00, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks guys. Can I ask a quick follow-up question. Is this simply a matter of time or is there anything I can do to alert someone that I've made changes? Cheers. Iain.iainplunkett (talk) 15:04, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

It's automatically added to a list where interested German editors can find it, but there are lots of pending changes. If I read the logs correctly then the oldest are 12 days but only a few are above 9 days and may have been skipped by some editors due to complications. I don't know their practices but some editors probably work through the list from the oldest, while others may unpredictably come by a random pending change and review it before a chronological editor gets there. Unless your change is critical like removing serious vandalism, defamation or copyright violations, you are just expected to wait. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:24, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I think that any time that an editor with the right to approve such changes views or edits or looks at the page history of the page, that editor will be prompted to consider reviewing and approving or declining the changes. Such an editor could ignore the prompt, but I suspect most would approve routine changes, well, routinely. DES 15:26, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

in the midst of editing an article and cannot seem to locate it to work on it.

hi, I was in the midst of creating an article, I opted to see preview. Now I want to edit it and cannot seem to get back to the article, how can I find it. I had not saved it because I was still editing it. Thanks, Cindy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cterzian (talk • contribs) 10:48, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid if you didn't save, it is not saved on Misplaced Pages. When you preview, a view of what the page would look like if saved is shown at the top, and the editing box is at the bottom. If that page is still displayed in your browser, scroll down and the edit box may well still be there. if it isn't you may be able to use browser navigation to return to the preview, and your browser may still have your text in memory. Good luck. DES 15:55, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

While you are getting used to things, it may help to work on drafts in your sandbox and just save frequently. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:01, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

What's a respectable period of time between requesting page moves?

There was a page move requested over at Sega v. Accolade recently, which was closed on November 13th as no consensus. Then it was re-requested on November 15th. There appears to be some background between editors regarding the motives for such a request being raised again, but I'm curious as I can't find any reference in the page move articles that suggests how long a gap should be before moves are sensibly requested again. For the record, (as I state on the page) I was non-commital on the initial move, but am against it on the re-request as I feel that it's inappropriately soon, and smacks of "keep requesting until we get a desired outcome".

Although not required (this ain't ANI) I will inform the editors via the talk page that I've brought this up here. Chaheel Riens (talk) 17:58, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

There is no formal policy, but making repeated requests when there is no reasonable chance of consensus having changed is disruption. The appropriate response is (1) first let the editor who does it know, via a polite talk page message, that you consider it disruptive, (2) if it continues, let the editor know, via a polite but firm talk page message, that continuing the activity will force you to file a report at ANI, (3) if it still continues, file a report at ANI asking for administrative action. Avoid being rude or showing emotion, and don't make your messages any longer than they need to be, and don't let yourself get sucked into unproductive arguments. Looie496 (talk) 18:51, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't the one who proposed it, but I believe that since the closer of the first proposal ignored my !vote pretty much, that it felt there may have been a chance for consensus. Though I was surprised at the sudden re-proposal as well, and I'm glad you've checked up on how appropriate it is or isn't, Caheel. This does relax that lingering question I had in my mind if it was okay for the proposer (who wasn't the original proposer either), to bring it up again after only a couple days.--SexyKick 19:06, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

One question: I have made a lot of move requests on many titles. Particularly on Talk:United States v. Microsoft Corp., was I disruptive for re-proposing the renaming? George Ho (talk) 20:55, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

That's out of scope of my original question. I want to know whether there is a process or state of grace between the original proposal, and the re-raising of it. Chaheel Riens (talk) 22:35, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

deleted page

we need to fix a deleted page. my husband had a page someone put up without permission. how do we fix it if we are not the original log in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.10.8.155 (talk) 18:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

The permission of the subject of an article is not required. You probably need to read Misplaced Pages's guidance on conflict of interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:23, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

If the page has been deleted, no one but administrators can see it, so "fixing" a deleted article is pretty pointless. (If it contained some REALLY bad personal stuff or your personal address/phone, it might qualify for WP:OVERSIGHT so that even admins cannot see it. Follow the instructions there.) -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:41, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Please do not go around blanking entire sections, like you did at Yoni Sarden, or you will find yourself blocked. - Arjayay (talk) 18:45, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

The deleted page referred to by the OP may have been Marcellus "Handz Down" Dawson? - David Biddulph (talk) 18:56, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

If that is the articel, it was deleted through Proposed deletion on the grounds of lack of established notability and poor sources, and the article text looks as if it would require significant improvement to remain as an active article. Anyone who want to improve a PRODed article can ask at WP:REFUND and it will usually be granted. DES 19:36, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

November 19

alpha with spiritus lenis?

Where can I find the greek letter alpha with spiritus lenis please? Special characters do not contain this combined sign... Thanx! HilmarHansWerner (talk) 02:00, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Selecting "Greek" in the drop-down box below the edit box gives various characters including ἀ and ἁ. They can also be made with ἀ and ἁ, or by copy-pasting them from somewhere. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:19, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

thank you, but a) with "drop down box below the edit box" you seem to mean the drop down menu below "special characters"; there I can NOT find the desired sign... b) there seems to be a problem if you work on an android tablet: I can see only boxes here where you entered your letters... in the edit-mode; in the normal view-mode I see nothing... c) can you please say where you found the code for the signs you gave?! and how do I implement the code so that I see the desired combined (!) sign (alpha with the spiritus above it) in the normal mode? thanks! HilmarHansWerner (talk) 14:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what Android users see but I wouldn't be surprised if they often have a more limited character set than typical PC users. If a character isn't in a character set then a program has to either ignore it or display something else, for example a box. I'm talking about below and not above the edit box. In a PC browser I see MediaWiki:Edittools below the edit box. That's where I select "Greek". I use the external site http://rishida.net/tools/conversion/ for character conversions. If I copy-paste ἀ to the "Characters" field and click "Convert" then "Decimal NCRs" shows ἀ. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:36, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

thanks a lot indeed! I'm now working with my PC and - low and behold - I can see the alphas... poor android... and now I also found where you toogle to "greek", i.e. in the drop down box that reads initially "insert"... and indeed: the character-set shown there on android is much more limited than on a PC. and the unicode-converter is a useful thing! :-) --HilmarHansWerner (talk) 21:06, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Changing/Updating page name

I am editing a page in which the organism named in the page name has been changed. In Edit mode I cannot change the main heading name.

The case in point: The organism Ommatoiulus moreletii has had a slight name change (to conform to rules of Zoological Nomenclature). The correct specific name is now moreleti (one 'i' has been dropped). How can I change this,please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pelidnoptera (talk • contribs) 02:00, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

You have to move the page. See Misplaced Pages:Moving a page. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

 Done, page moved to Ommatoiulus moreleti.--ukexpat (talk) 15:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Husband lives after being diagnosed with Acinar Cell Carcinoma of the Pancreas

Hi there, My husband at 37years was diagnosed with Acinar Cell Carcinoma of the Pancreas. On the 3/11/2013 he turned 60years. This tumor had evaded the duodenum and small bowel and encapsulated the main Aorta and two suspect places in the liver. He refuses Chemo and Radiation at the time. At the time of leaving hospital was given a 5% chance of living 1year and 1% chance of living 5years. Told we would have a 1% chance of having any more children. He beat both odds. Just thought this is good news for other patients. He was Looked after by a Team headed by Professor Nathan Gray. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.145.129.131 (talk) 05:10, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, we are indeed very happy for your husband! However, this is not the right place to put it. This page is for queries about editing Misplaced Pages only. Sorry about that. Darylgolden 06:08, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Photo change

Hi How can I change a photograph? I would like to put a much better and more relevant photograph on the PENMYNYDD page! Thank you Angharad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angharadholmes (talk • contribs) 10:11, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Where is the photograph you want to replace it with? And what is its copyright status? Maproom (talk) 10:47, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

If it is a photo that you took, or where you are in contact with the copyright holder, you may upload it as long as the copyright holder agrees to licence it under a suitable licence: see donating copyright materials for details of how to do this. If it is copyright and you are not in contact with the copyright holder (which is the case for most images on the web), then you may not upload it. For details on uploading, see uploading images, and for using the uploaded photo in an article, see picture tutorial. --ColinFine (talk) 14:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Windows

In articles about windows OS such as vista, there is a box near the end showing the 'windows family' but the link to "Windows 9" links to something about NT which is confusing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.13.160 (talk) 10:26, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

The link had been added to the template this morning, without explanation, & the target makes no mention of any "Windows 9", so I've reverted this mornming's change. Thanks for pointing it out. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:48, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Delivery certificate

I sent 3 registered latter vaid s.no. ARU599246439,59924641,59924642 ON DATED 3.10.2013. KINDLY GIVE STATES — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.177.227.52 (talk) 11:21, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Misplaced Pages itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:51, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Creating a New Article

Morning All,

I work on behalf of two large Canadian insurance brands who are referenced several times throughout related Misplaced Pages pages but don't actually have articles of their own. These are both very well known companies but I don't want to create articles for them as my understanding is that it's against guidelines for someone affiliated with a company to create a page. Can I make a request here for someone else to write the article? Is it okay if I do it myself?

Of course it would be entirely non promotional. We could also provide all the facts/information needed in the same format of other non-promotional company pages.

Please let me know what the best way to proceed is.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.179.220 (talk) 15:24, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Generally speaking (and especially at the moment, when paid editing is something of a hot topic among Wikipedians) adding an article about a company you work for or are affiliated with is very strongly discouraged. The best course of action would be to submit the two companies at Requested articles, so that an uninvolved editor can take a look at them and write the appropriate articles. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:36, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

You seem to be aware of policies such as WP:COI etc, so a reasonable way forward is to create an account, state your COI and intent on your userpage, and then suggest/create the article at WP:AFC. Success is not guaranteed, but if the companies are very well known it should be possible. Please keep asking questions as necessary, either here or at WP:TEAHOUSE. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:42, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Reading this might help: Misplaced Pages:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your reply - the companies are definitely very well known! Given that this is strongly discouraged would you recommend that I make the request rather than submit an article for consideration? I imagine Wikipedians enjoy creating content but don't want to put anyone out! How would WP:AFC differ from https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Business_and_economics/Companies in terms of where to submit an article suggestion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.179.220 (talk) 15:58, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

test — Preceding unsigned comment added by Belairdirect-Grey Power (talk • contribs) 16:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I´ll give you my opinion, which is just that. Wikipedians like to create content of our own choosing, so I think going via WP:RA is less likely to accomplish something. Using WP:AFC and actually creating the article for consideration will probably give some result/response quicker. If you write a flowery ad it will not be accepted. Many Wikipedians (with good reason) might frown upon and be suspicious about what you write, but also reluctantly admit that at least in theory, an article created by you can be acceptable for inclusion, so it´s not actually FORBIDDEN that you try (I´m fairly certain I´m right about that). I hope this helps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:05, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I like the statement on your userpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:10, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

However, the user name does not comply with the relevant policy and will probably be blocked.--ukexpat (talk) 19:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Basically, using Requested articles is saying "here is an interesting subject, would someone please write an article on it for me?" while using Articles for Creation says "Here is a draft of an article, would you please look it over and tell me if it is good enough, and perhaps help me improve it?" You see the difference? DES 17:58, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit Law Society of Ireland page

I'm looking for help to improve the quality and balance of the information on the Law Society of Ireland page - Law Society of Ireland I've uploaded suggested content with references on the Talk page for review but have received no feedback in 2 months. Due to COI, as I work for the organisation, I haven't made these changes myself. Some feedback or direction would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. FriendlyuserCP (talk) 16:14, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Advertisement on TV

I felt the need to contact Kmart regarding the recently released TV Christmas ad of "Jingle Balls". I've never been as disgusted or grossed out in my life as when watching this advertisement. You should be ashamed of yourselves for degrading the traditional, well known and loved holiday song. I don't know what you were thinking when you released such a trashy display representing your business. I can only hope that you pull this ad immediately from anymore viewers and an apology to the general public would be highly recommended to restore the stores integrity.

Happy holidays, Kathy Pelletier — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.117.13.192 (talk) 16:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Misplaced Pages itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 - David Biddulph (talk) 16:24, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

New Misplaced Pages critic site

I am setting up a brand new Misplaced Pages critic site and I need permission to use your logos. The critic site will tell the public how Misplaced Pages is unreliable (by demonstrating how easy it is to edit) , link to articles with sexual images, etc. So for these purposes it will be highly appreciated if I could use the appropriate logos. Don't worry, all claims will be backed up with due evidence (plus we will store some screenshots should you decide to delete evidence). So, please allow us to do this...InSANITYreTURN (talk) 17:42, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

This page is for questions about how to use and edit Misplaced Pages – so it's not the right place for your question. I don't know what is the right place. However, this may help. Maproom (talk) 19:52, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

That's the draft policy. The current policy is at: Foundation:Trademark policy.--ukexpat (talk) 21:56, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Red user names

I know that red links are for pages that don't exist; however how is it some users have red user pages or talk pages, how do you disable those? CensoredScribe (talk) 18:50, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, simply speaking, those links are red because their user pages or user talk pages don't exist (yet). The way to "fix" that is by creating their user page or talk page, but I would strongly recommend that you do not create a user's talk page just to turn a red link blue, and definitely do not do it for their user page. If they want a redlinked (i.e. nonexistent) userpage, that's their choice. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:53, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Or theoretically, since users can change the colors (as well as just about anything else) about their sig, they could make their sig so that it has proper links to their existing user page and talk page, but the color of those letters is in red). I don't think there is anything in policy against it, but it would be annoying.Naraht (talk) 18:58, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Mistake on John Huston page

In one place (early life) it says his first marriage lasted one year.

Further down (personal life?) it says it lasted 7 years.

Please pass this along to whoever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.205.27 (talk) 20:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I have changed the personal life section to say "This marriage ended after a year in 1926." PrimeHunter (talk) 20:50, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

This source says on page 38 they divorced in 1938 and this source seems to suggest Huston was 20 at the time of the marriage. So if that is correct the marriage lasted from 1926-1938, which makes 12 years. I can't confirm whether the second source really refers to the time of the marriage, as I can't get the Google Books snippet to scroll further down. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 21:14, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I found many sources saying they married in 1924 or 1925 and divorced in 1926, but now I also find many sources saying they married in 1926 or 1927 and divorced in 1933. The latter sources look more reliable. Your first link says 1933 and not 1938. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:16, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

November 20

Songs of Praise

In the article on the BBC program Songs of Praise there is a section entitled Assailant: The family of murder victim Billy Barclay criticised the programme for allowing his killer Garry Brotherston to appear on the show. On the programme, Brotherston said that he had "found God" while serving 11 years for Barclay's murder, and has now released an album.

This contributes nothing to the article but has been added as a personal attack on Mr Brotherstone. The tragic events of a gang fight 20 years ago really have no bearing on Songs of Praise. Mr Brotherstone served 11 years in prison for his crime which he committed as a teenager. The family of the victim are of course deeply hurt by such events, but the attempt to continually harass Mr Brotherstone should not be pursued through Misplaced Pages — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.192.202 (talk) 00:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

This Help Desk is for questions about how to edit Misplaced Pages. This is a reasonable place to ask how to address a content issue about Songs of Praise. The answer is to discuss it on the article talk page, Talk:Songs of Praise. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:07, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages generally report events that are notable. If you think that this event is not sufficiently notable to be included into the article, you can use the talk page as was mentioned above. In this particular case mentioning this controversy especially in a separate section may not be justified indeed. Ruslik_Zero 03:20, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

As the article was structured when you saw it, with a full stand alone section called "Assailant", it was not appropriate since it definitely gave too much emphasis to a single incident. I have changed the article to have a standard "Reception and impact" section that was missing, and included this incident amongst some of the other content of the same nature. Inclusion of the Brotherstone incident may still may be WP:UNDUE weight, or not, or it might be simply that we need to fill in more on the Reception and Impact since a program going for over 50 years has had more impact than is presently recorded in the article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:45, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

On second review, given the fact that it was sources to the Daily Record tabloid (wow!) removal on that ground alone would be appropriate. And a google news search revealed no other hits so it definitely appears to be an incident of little note, so I have moved it to the talk page pending better coverage. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:21, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Project

Hello, I am working on the article Eratosthenes and I really want to clean up my citations that are placed in the notes section. I want to combine the sources that are used through out the article. As of right now when I cite the citation adds yet another note although I had used the same source earlier. Is there anyway I could be able to make these come together? I need to cite throughout, but I do not want to the bibliography/notes section to be repetitive! Thank youToothFairyJenny (talk) 04:40, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I believe you can use footnotes for that. Cheers! SwisterTwister talk 04:45, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I fixed one of them for you, to give you an example of how to do it. Unfortunately I screwed up on my first attempt, so you will see that it took me two edits to get it right. (Basically the trick is to give a "name" to a reference -- you can then repeat it by giving the same name.) Looie496 (talk) 04:52, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

In the cite menu on the edit window there is a label entitled Named references and has a clipboard. If you click that it you get a drop down of all the named references to make it easier for you. When you are putting in the reference through the template you can provide the name as well. XFEM Skier (talk) 05:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

(e/c)see Misplaced Pages:CITE#Repeated_citations. rather than the <ref> tag at the start of the citation use <ref name="X"> then whenever you want to cite using that source again, rather than the full ref, you just use <ref name="X/"> (note the close slash at the end)-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:38, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Removal of Copyright Warning

I am having difficulty establishing copyright and licensing status for three images: File:General layout of an advanced inflow steam engine.png File:Uniflow Engine Section Details.png File:Constant Diameter Cylinder and Piston.png

Dan Gelbart, author, assigned these diagrams to the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported" and GNU Free Documentation License. This authorization was sent on November 17, 2013 to permissions-en@wikimedia.org

However, a notice on the images states: "This file does not have information on its copyright and licensing status. Unless the copyright and licensing status is provided, the image will be deleted after Wednesday, 27 November 2013. Please remove this template if a correct copyright license tag has been added."

After Gelbart assigned the images to the Creative Commons, I re-uploaded the images, so they may be shown in the Misplaced Pages article Advanced Uniflow Steam Engine. I listed the images as Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported. I do not know how to add a correct copyright license tag. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guy Immega (talk • contribs) 05:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

if the images are on commons, you can just link directly to them, don't bother uploading them to Misplaced Pages. I misread your comment.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:40, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Since the images were previously deleted by Misplaced Pages editor Diannaa, I re-uploaded them after Gelbart assigned copyright to the commons. What do i do now to remove the copyright warning so the images will not be deleted again on 27 Nov? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guy Immega (talk • contribs) 06:21, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

The owner of the copyright will need to follow the process outlined here WP:DONATEIMAGE. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:28, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

The owner of the copyright, Dan Gelbart, DID send a message to permissions-en@wikimedia.org, assigning ownership of the images to the commons! However, Dan Gelbart is not a Misplaced Pages editor and asked me to post the images. Can you please confirm that the copyright issue is settled? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guy Immega (talk • contribs) 14:01, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Where to ask for semi protection of the article?

One article needs to be semi protected urgently as perticular information is being added without reference again and again by different new IPs. Please help. May I request to kindly post the answer to my talk page? Thanks a lot in advance. The page which needs semi protection is this - https://en.wikipedia.org/Bachelor_of_Ayurveda,_Medicine_and_Surgery --Abhijeet Safai (talk) 06:08, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

WP:RFPP. Dismas| 06:10, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Dismas. --Abhijeet Safai (talk) 06:45, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! Dismas| 08:46, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

My user name I need to change

I will not copy from my web site ever, however I would like to have my user name change from Manifest2014 to LaVoria Reese — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manifest2014 (talk • contribs) 06:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:Changing username. TimofKingsland (talk) 06:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

If you still want to change your username once you've read through that you can request a username change at Misplaced Pages:Changing username/Simple by following the instructions there.TimofKingsland (talk) 06:44, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

How do I save...

Hello, when I search for something like...Channing Tatum, how do I save the search or page for later review? I love to look stuff up but am not always able to read it all at one time but don't want to forget about it, can I make it a favorite or save it for later? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LunaFaye13 (talk • contribs) 06:41, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

There are a couple things you could do.

• You could bookmark the article like you would any other web page on the Internet.
• You could create a Misplaced Pages Book. See WP:BOOKS
• You could edit your user page to include a list of favorite articles.

And though some people would possibly suggest adding the article to your watchlist, that's normally just used for keeping track of what changes were made to the articles that you're watching and not generally used as a way to remember all your favorite articles.

Hope this helps, Dismas| 08:52, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

RE: DonDonTheGreat

DonDonTheGreat (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi, I am messaging you in regards to an article that I have posted on an artist that requested for me to add his info, including his bio and his latest album, which I have created a page about him as to add thte next page later. I took information from his facebook which is indentical to his website, but I can assure you that I have full consent from him to do so. I can also send you links, social network links etc. to back up that I myself own full copyright of the said album review/info. Please help me, it would be greatly appreciated, I am new to this and am just getting started, thankyou. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spexx23 DKS (talk • contribs) 09:24, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Your stating here that you have his consent to place the material here is not enough. Misplaced Pages will require proof that the owner of the copyright has released it so that it can be used. And as the material you have copied is anyway unacceptably promotional, it would be better to rewrite it – I have made a start on this. However, you have a bigger problem. The article as it is does nothing to demonstrate that its subject is notable, in Misplaced Pages's sense. Unless someone can change the article so that it demonstrates his notability, it will be deleted. See WP:BIO for guidance on how you might be able to do this. Maproom (talk) 10:21, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Duane Bobick

Reference help requested. I tried to add a reference and ended up deleting the bulk of the text. I couldn't retrieve it. Can someone just return it to its previous txt? Thanks, 96.245.109.57 (talk) 09:36, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Fixed here. Dismas| 09:41, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

article draft

Jennifer Birich (talk) 10:43, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

This is the help desk for Misplaced Pages, It is for asking questions on how to use Misplaced Pages. Do you have a question? GB fan 10:48, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Are you maybe looking for Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation? Dismas| 11:42, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Allan Sharpe

Could someone please give some guidance on the correct citation parameters for reference 13 in this article. I have another six references to the same archive. Many thanks, Gomach (talk) 11:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I added <ref name="lyceum">{{Citation |author=Allen Wright |publication-date=October 31, 1988 |title=Shakespeare sans taste: review of As you like it |publisher= ] |page= |url= http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/sta/search/detaild.cfm?NID=&EID=9427&DID=38133&AID=|accessdate=4 November 2013}}</ref> Also, notes can be placed under a Notes section Template:Notelist and references can be placed under a reference section Template:Reflist. Generally, you don't need to use quotes in references to verify your article sentence post.-- Jreferee (talk) 14:14, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Changing logo

Hi

Do I have to wait 4 days for my account to be confirmed before I can change the new logo of the company, even though it is public (new website) that the current logo (on Misplaced Pages) is old? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.72.98.29 (talk) 11:53, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Alternatively, you can make a request at Misplaced Pages:Files for upload (although editors will sometimes do it if you ask here, provided you can give a URL of where the logo can be found, and which article it relates to).
If you decide to wait, please note that your account also needs to have made 10 edits, and that the edits you have already made as an IP do not count towards either the time, or the number. Arjayay (talk) 12:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

How long does speedy deletion usually take?

I wanted to move the Metrosideros excelsa article to Pōhutukawa (per WP:COMMONNAME), but the redirect at Pōhutukawa prevented me from doing it. I added {{db-move}} to get the page deleted, but that has stopped the redirect from working properly (which has about 55 links to it). I'm not complaining at all, but it's been about 33 hours and I'm just curious how long these things usually take. Thanks. TimofKingsland (talk) 12:48, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Hesperian "moved Pōhutukawa to Metrosideros excelsa: per long-established plant article naming convention" on 4 February 2009‎. The plant article naming convention is at WP:FLORA. Does moving the Metrosideros excelsa article to Pōhutukawa comply with WP:FLORA? -- Jreferee (talk) 13:52, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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