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I've. added then the original copy from the book by Stephen hawking. May it breaked a rule so sorry for that and thanks for your suggestions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39Debangshu (talk • contribs) 09:58, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Nick Vujicic

Hi, Materialscientist. The previous protection was also three months. The same exact type of vandalism has persisted throughout this year on it... - Hoops gza (talk) 04:43, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

A reply would be appreciated. - Hoops gza (talk) 01:28, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Wrong, previous was not 3 month. Sprotection is not exact science and every admin has their own philosophy. I tend to issue long sprotection for FA/GAs or other well-developed articles with little chance for significant improvement; maybe also vandal magnets. But. There are zillions of articles that desperately need expansion, and are regularly updated/expanded by anons or new users. I hesitate sprotecting those. Nick Vujicic is in the 2/3 group. Materialscientist (talk) 01:46, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

2 June 2014 to 2 September 2014 is three months. I don't care what you do with the page at this point, but I don't want you to lose credibility in me. - Hoops gza (talk) 02:02, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

So, I fixed page about "kwoon" because it's wrong, I live in Beijing China, and speak Chinese, the character 馆 does not mean martial arts school, whoever wrote the article initially was seriously misinformed, I tried to correct the error, martial arts school is 武馆 wuguan, not 馆 guan, if you think I'm wrong feel free to take it upon yourself to learn Chinese — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.199.24.110 (talk) 11:55, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

also, if this is just because of my IP address it's because I'm using a VPN to get around Chinese web censorship — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.186.30.27 (talk) 12:01, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Citation for my recently removed addition to an entry.

I forgot to add the link to the material from which I derived the information that I added to the entry. Here is the link. I'll add the entry again, this time with the citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.223.155 (talk) 18:14, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Need page move correction

An editor "Alanelpaso" seems to have made a good-intentioned page move/page creation that has messed with the page history. The original Page was The Motels. It has a long creation history. He moved it to The Motels Discography so it now has the history. He then deleted "The Motels" content and left only the discography content. he then re-created The Motels with the original content (minus the discography. LOL, I hope you can follow that. I need the new "The Motels" article deleted and I then need the "The Motels Discography" moved back to "The Motels". Then we can delete the changes he made and maybe create a new discography article. I hope I'm clear what he did. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:53, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Quickfixed, might need correction. Materialscientist (talk) 00:11, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not sure it needs a separate discography article, things get updated more when they are all together, but that's a minor issue that can be talked about now that you fixed things. Again thanks and happy black Friday. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:21, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

You have removed my reasonable and polite comment from your talk page, reverted my edits, bullied me with threats of an edit block, and misrepresented my views. Where do you get off pushing people around like this? What gives you the authority to determine which reasoning is valid, and which is invalid, solely based on your own whims? Spencergreenwood (talk) 10:06, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Psst, wanna buy a genuine fake famous brand wristwatch?

The would-be seller is eagerer than you might imagine. I've just now snuffed his double. Prepare for whack-a-mole. -- Hoary (talk) 13:50, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Industrious! -- Hoary (talk) 23:21, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, please keep posting if new socks are found (don't have to), I'll run CU on them shortly. Materialscientist (talk) 23:42, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

confused

this is a reply to the message you left me: That's horrible. Was what I added controversial? Couldn't you just add citation needed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.15.9.100 (talk) 14:05, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Ohh....

i dont get it man...whats the test Sorry I meant to edit the sentence below it.... Thanks for letting me know!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.58.128.139 (talk) 19:28, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Neil Pritchards

Neil Prithards is an alias, alter-ego personality created in 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dothan Gonah (talk • contribs) 07:06, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi - re the edit I made - I changed 'prostrate cancer' (which is incorrect) to 'prostate cancer'. You can leave it as 'prostrate' if you like, but the two words mean completely different things ('prostrate' means 'lying down' whereas a man's prostate gland is part of his reproductive system). You most definitely can't get 'prostrate cancer'. A quick dictionary check will confirm. 80.189.209.194 (talk) 15:23, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For blocking an IP vandal. Bearian (talk) 21:30, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Change on Misplaced Pages link building

Hi I am Hnancy! Thanks for your recommendation. I am currently editing the link building wikipedia page as it is my homework that I have to make edits towards the current page.I've searched a lot of resources of link building and I will try to edit it step by step. I am new to wikipedia editing and I am just exploring how to add stuff and citation on the page. I didn't realize people will respond and revert my changes so quickly. I hope you could give me some tolerance and I will try my best editing the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hnancy (talk • contribs) 00:58, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Athena Kolbe/Jennifer Balistra

Athena Kolbe actually does go by the name Jennifer Balistra, as well. It is important to connect the two in the research and work with ETS, a school in Haiti. (Enstiti Travay Sosyal ak Syans Sosyal (ETS) - Institute of Social Work and Social Science) Part of Kolbe's narrative includes information that she was born in Israel and served as a medic in the Israeli armed forces. She uses this information as she guides certain aspects of the school and the social work teaching in the school for native Haitians.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/enstiti-travay-sosyal-ak-syans-sosyal-ets---institute-of-social-work-and-social-science Note the authors: http://enstititravaysosyal.blogspot.com/2014_02_01_archive.html http://enstititravaysosyal.blogspot.com/2014/05/sc100-introduction-to-sociology.html

Please check with me before reverting edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenniferbalistra (talk • contribs) 02:04, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Mohamed El-Hachimi

Please find below one of the numerous official sources http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article/2014/12/02/comment-un-athlete-dope-recidiviste-a-finalement-ete-relaxe_4532314_3242.html http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=11396&page=92 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.45.249.153 (talk) 09:57, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

/16 rangeblock

Thanks for that. It's heavy, but it has needed doing for a while. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:59, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Changes on article about the clarinete

Hello, Sir

I understand what you are talking about, and I did me best to find a source, but there are so limited informations and I did not find any of them. But, I have study archaeology and art history, and I now that oral history is a fundamental part of folklore. That's why I provided only some information about how clarinete is involved in the folkore and tradition of South Albania. The clarinete has become a crucial instrument in Albanian folklore. For these reasons I added those information. I still believe that information that I have posted are necessary because it is part of the history of this instrument and the way that people use it. I am still looking for the sources.

Kultura Arberore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kultura Arberore (talk • contribs) 15:03, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Cabbage & hypothyroidism

Materialscientist: as a past editor of the Cabbage article, could you provide input on the Talk page debate and article revisions for hypothyroidism under WP:PRIMARY and WP:MEDRS please? Appreciate your point of view, with thanks. --Zefr (talk) 04:14, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

revdel

this dif was a copyvio from p 132 of this book. Can you delete it from the history? Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 11:25, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

For blocking yet another proxy being used by this editor - do we know who he is? Dougweller (talk) 10:43, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

CU gives no clue at the moment. Materialscientist (talk) 10:53, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Busy isn't he? Thanks again. Always useful to shut down proxies, so at least he's being helpful in that respect! Dougweller (talk) 13:05, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Help needed on Commons

Hi MS. Commons isn't my usual stomping ground, but I could use some admin help over there - woudl you mind taking a look at this list of uploads? I'm pretty sure they are all non-free copyvios and in need of deletion - I'm currently dealing with this user's repeated copyvios on en-wiki, but I lack the admin pants on Commons... Yunshui _水 11:49, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Everything looks like c:COM:NETCOPYRIGHT. — Revi 11:55, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

@Yunshui: All nuked, uploader blocked. — Revi 11:58, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic; thanks Revi. Yunshui _水 13:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Actually, you amy want to have a look at Commons user AliAkar, whom I've just noticed... don't know if you have a sockpuppetry policy over there, but it looks an awful lot like the same fella. Yunshui _水 13:16, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I've now concluded, after spending a bit of time trying to construct an SPI over here for these two editors, that they probably aren't the same person - they generally edit in different areas, and their editing styles are noticably dissimilar. You still may want to examin AliAkar's Commons uploads as they look to be copyvios from the same sources as Saeegh's. Yunshui _水 13:35, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Woggytus (talk · contribs)

Deserves a talk page block. MadGuy7023 (talk) 12:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello materialscientist

I wanted to thankyou for giving me the knowledge on about editing wikipedia and what you need to do when you do edit an artical because as you can see that was my first page i ever edited and i am not experienced.Thanks for the advice instead of just deleting my info and continue with the good work of making sure wikipedia is as reliable as possible. Regards,Christian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris47368 (talk • contribs) 23:31, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Old Edit; Punt E Mes

Hi, I tried to correct the entry and you reverted it back in March 2014. I'm unsure why you want to leave up an inaccurate entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.103.227.186 (talk) 23:53, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

User talk:부당이득

You probably want to block his talkpage access ... — Revi 03:21, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting. Now there is no use to revoke talk page access - those guys are active on their talk only right after block, they abandon the account very soon. Materialscientist (talk) 03:39, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, maybe can you add his patterns used on his talkpage (not article...) to Special:Abusefilter/648? Thanks. — Revi 03:42, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Rare case that he came back with same username. — Revi 06:23, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry.

I didn't mean to be a dick. I shouldn't have caused you trouble. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.113.89.80 (talk) 23:39, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

I am new to this and wanted to do something easy. Bummer to do a mistake on first try. Thanks for correcting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magbj (talk • contribs) 04:05, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

224 as an interesting number

I found a legitimate source about 224. I added it. You deleted it as vandalism or a test; it was neither. Thank you for self-reverting your warning. Although, since it was otherwise a deletion of sourced content without an explanation, it could now be re-added, instead I brought it to the talk page. Feel free to participate at the article talk page, if you wish. Thanks again. Nick Levinson (talk) 21:39, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Fazza (Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid)

Hiya - Saw you revert an unsourced addition on the Sheikh Mohammed article a couple of times , the claim that his son Hamdan is also known as Fazza. It's true, actually, FWIW - www.fazza.ae refers. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:29, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Cetacean Taxonomy

Hi,

As a part of the Society for Marine Mammalogy Education Committees initiatives, I have been correcting outdated taxonomy of the cetaceans. Based on current research from the last 10 years, the cetaceans genetically and morphologically fall firmly within the Artiodactyla (even-toed ungulates). The term Cetartiodactyla reflects the idea that whales evolved within the ungulates. The term was coined by merging the name for the two orders, Cetacea and Artiodactyla, into a single word. Under this definition, the closest living land relative of the whales and dolphins is thought to be the hippopotamus. Use of Order Cetartiodactyla, instead of Cetacea with Suborders Odontoceti and Myticeti, is favored by most evolutionary mammalogists working with molecular data and is supported the IUCN Cetacean Specialist Group and by Taxonomy Committee of the Society for Marine Mammalogy, the the largest international association of marine mammal scientists in the world.

This is a major shift in editing Wikiepdia for this change in taxonomy, but its well grounded in at least 10 years of research. I have made this clear and referenced the research on the Marine Mammal page and granted the fact that there is some opposition for stability, but felt there isnt the need to justify it each time on each species page - so I just changed the boxes. I noticed you had corrected it back to Cetacea on a few pages. How can I convince you not to do so in the future?

Thanks ShaneGero (talk) 08:37, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

1. Geisler, Jonathan H.; Uden, Mark D. (2005). "Phylogenetic Relationships of Extinct Cetartiodactyls: Results of Simultaneous Analyses of Molecular, Morphological, and Stratigraphic Data". Journal of Mammalian Evolution. 12 (1–2): 145–160.
2. Graur, D.; Higgins, G. (1994). "Molecular evidence for the inclusion of cetaceans within the order Artiodactyla" (PDF). Molecular Biology and Evolution. 11: 357–364.
3. Agnarsson, I.; May-Collado, LJ. (2008). "The phylogeny of Cetartiodactyla: the importance of dense taxon sampling, missing data, and the remarkable promise of cytochrome b to provide reliable species-level phylogenies". Mol Phylogenet Evol. 48 (3): 964–985.
4. Price, SA.; Bininda-Emonds, OR.; Gittleman, JL. (2005). "A complete phylogeny of the whales, dolphins and even-toed hoofed mammals - Cetartiodactyla". Biol Rev Camb Philos Soc. 80 (3): 445–473.
5. Montgelard, C.; Catzeflis, FM.; Douzery, E. (1997). "Phylogenetic relationships of artiodactyls and cetaceans as deduced from the comparison of cytochrome b and 12S RNA mitochondrial sequences". Molecular Biology and Evolution. 14: 550–559.
6. Spaulding, M.; O'Leary, MA.; Gatesy, J. (2009). "Relationships of Cetacea -Artiodactyla- Among Mammals: Increased Taxon Sampling Alters Interpretations of Key Fossils and Character Evolution". PLOS ONE. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0007062.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)
7. http://www.iucn-csg.org/index.php/taxonomy/
8. http://www.marinemammalscience.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=758&Itemid=340

James Clerk Maxwell

Please see: Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)

How should we show the nationality of a person in WP?

This was kicked off by a continuing dispute at the JCM article.

Thanks FF-UK (talk) 16:13, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Sir John Vane

Dear Materialscientist. Would you please be so kind as to let me know why you posted the photographs on Sir John Vane's page? Especially the one of him with Moncada? I am interested to learn why you posted these photographs this year - ten years after JRV's death? I would appreciate an answer, please, thank you. Also to know if you know or worked with either scientist? Thank you for your kind response. Regards, Kikkin6

Maybe Give It A Second Look Please

Hello Materialscientist,

I appreciate you letting me know of this matter.

The reason I am asking for a second look is because after perusing the guidelines I feel that my contribution follows these guidelines.

I'm trying to figure out if this was an issue between adding a source altogether or because it was some formatting issue.

As you can also clearly see, - the page that was replaced as a source went to a blank white page, which violates the guidelines. - the site added has the pertinent information that relates directly to the topic

Thank you for your time and work to maintain the integrity of Misplaced Pages. Ericbaumann321 (talk) 22:26, 8 December 2014 (UTC) Eric

Reason for Finland edit.

Hi, Apologies for any offence caused by my edit on your excellent piece on Finland. It's the first time I've edited anything on this site, and only did so because I was concerned about the claim that Finland was the 'first country in the world to grant universal suffrage'. New Zealand people are very proud that universal suffrage passed into law in 1893, 10 years early than Finland and this can be verified via numerous official sources. Once again, no offence intended:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Catlg (talk • contribs) 22:30, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Nuclearram

Please see my reply at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Nuclearram. I never requested CU and the IP isn't stale... now he's hopped an IP to revert again Thanks. lTopGunl (talk) 04:12, 9 December 2014 (UTC)Template:Z48

removing my link

Thank you for removing my link, I understand it linked to an ok page but maybe not one which was too relevant. I was disappointed to see that you removed my bit on jellyfish collagen. I will have a think before re-writing that bit as I have a decent understanding of it. My company is a start-up working with it so I have some papers I will dig up and reference for any sections I write. Norbzzz (talk) 10:03, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

chris blackwell

I'm an acquaintance, family member teaches at school his child goes to, i met Mary while she was alive and his curent partner is family member's in-law ...however there is an interview about blackwell online you can google making reference to partner and son whom the article amusingly states looks like Harry Potter — Preceding unsigned comment added by OnlineJam (talk • contribs) 10:50, 9 December 2014 (UTC) for eg

http://www.maryellenmark.com/text/magazines/rolling%20stone/920S-000-046.html

'the woman in LA' is not 'former' but current :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by OnlineJam (talk • contribs) 11:03, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

martine

family member was her co worker at BWIA :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by OnlineJam (talk • contribs) 10:51, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Dear Materialscientist,

I removed the links on the Camp Stone wikipedia page because as the director-in-training, I was advised by the Board of Trustees as well as the Directors of the institution to update the page including removing information that could compromise the safety of our institution. It is our desire on our Misplaced Pages page to not have cross references to the items that you put back onto the page. Please advise as soon as possible, as I would like to remove the information you put back. Thank you for your understanding.

As a separate matter, who are you and what is your connection to Camp Stone, and who originally authorized you to edit information on our page? The current administration does not remember directing anyone to edit content on our page.

Sincerely, Yakov Fleischmann

Yakfleisch (talk) 12:44, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Heteroglossia

I translated heteroglossia text to lithuanian language, and i don't understant whats wrong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gintarestep (talk • contribs) 13:42, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia genealogy project

Just wondering if you have any thoughts re: the idea of WMF hosting a genealogy project. If so, feel free to contribute to this discussion. And apologies if I have made this request before. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:04, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for fixing the Rincon Valley Union page - I'm a teacher in the district and was teaching my students that Misplaced Pages is edited by users around the globe and so may not always be completely factual or unbiased. I told them that there is a moderator who edits the pages and checks the information, but that they should use the resources at the bottom of the page to fact-check.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.129.224.25 (talk) 19:41, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Superconductivity

Firstly, thanks for listening. I appreciate that you are doing this.

Secondly, I would like to ask you why you did remove the contribution of me (ok, my ip) from that page. True, the paper has yet to be confirmed, but the same thing goes with the 'HgBa2Ca2Cu3O8' part above. I would like to hear your thoughts on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattashii (talk • contribs) 01:53, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, true, but the part above was published in Nature 20 years ago and is sort of accepted by the community. Meanwhile, your addition is a recent unpublished result (posted on 1 December 2014 on arXiv, which is not peer reviewed). Eremets is known as a good experimentalist, but high-pressure superconductivity experiments are never easy. (We are talking about pressures well above 100 GPa here.) Materialscientist (talk) 02:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

JATO

   Hi. I (my IP) recently edited a section of the Wiki page on JATO rockets. I did this simply to clean up the grammar errors and sentence structure in that section. Improper grammar and messy sentence structure can cause difficulty in reading and comprehending an article. In addition, it causes the author to appear less intelligent, therefore less trustworthy on the subject.

   I feel that my editing of the article made an improvement, and I am unaware of any violation of conduct. I urge you to rethink your reversion of my edit.

--LAN mine (talk) 11:26, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	You are one of the people that I have on my watchlist and turn to whenever I run into problems. Just want to say thanks and happy holiday! TerryAlex (talk) 21:46, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

A bit specific

this made me "lol" what's happened here with this block?

21:40, 10 December 2014 Materialscientist (Talk | contribs) blocked 198.109.121.2 (Talk) with an expiry time of 3 years, 6 hours, 32 minutes and 24 seconds (anonymous users only, account creation disabled)

GimliDotNet 22:14, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

It's simple - we put a block length at 3 years or 1 month or etc., and then Wikimedia software recalculates it into its own time units resulting in those funny messages, which vary because one months today is not the same as one month tomorrow :-). Materialscientist (talk) 22:18, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Question

is this were I can talk with you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20opme (talk • contribs)

My user page

Please unprotect If you want to leave it edit protected that's fine but I'm trying to archive my talk page and I can't move it. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:43, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Cow cleaner 5000 is still around, but his activity is low these weeks. Thus I would leave edit protection and lift move protection, if this is Ok with you (please confirm). Edit protection can be lifted too, but I'd keep it if possible. Materialscientist (talk) 03:53, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

South Africa Edit

Why do you think my editing is "vandalism?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by KoosDelaRey (talk • contribs) 05:09, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Paul Chryst

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12018668/wisconsin-badgers-hire-pittsburgh-head-coach-paul-chryst — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.210.4.69 (talk) 06:56, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

re herald hop

the herald strain now only exists at the national hop inventory(as a cultivar description and a few seeds), it was grown by a client farm of Charles farams, it has been grubbed, ie it is no longer grown. I used herald hops in a beer of mine(I am a commercial brewer and part owner of Liverpool organic brewery) the information was given to me by paul Corbett md of Charles farams when I was told the strain no longer exists here is a link to the current relevant hop list as you can see there is no mention of herald as it has gone the way of the dodo

im extremely sorry if you cannot see the relevance of my post — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.20.217 (talk) 07:47, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Amy Pascal birthdate

I wasn't sure how to cite the source, but here it is, please put her birthdate back. <ref><ref>http://variety.com/2007/film/news/amy-pascal-timeline-1117971486/ ~~~~robinpeggy {{subst:Unsigned|1=Robinpeggy|2=14:18, 12 December 2014 (UTC)}} {{subst:db-csd-notice-custom|1=File:Cluster.jpg|2=fpcfail}} ~~~~

if you wish to go personal then do it with someone else.

If you wish to go personal and childish please do so with someone else. This measurement is not up and down but length.~~~~ {{subst:UnsignedIP|1=66.74.176.59|2=08:17, 13 December 2014 (UTC)}}

Never

feel that you should ever address me with the comment to "behave". I am not your child; you do not pay my bills. And for you to act in such a way is disrespectful and treats others in a childish manner. I would think that someone who feels that they are in command of polite language to have learned the difference of being rude. No need to respond even if it is just an apology.~~~~ {{subst:UnsignedIP|1=66.74.176.59|2=08:43, 13 December 2014 (UTC)}}

1. http://www.charlesfaram.co.uk/hop-varieties/page/2/