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Cuba

OK. I would note, however, that while meat-puppetry is frowned upon per se (and the bulk of pro-Cuban regime editors are certainly de facto meat-puppets to a large extent as well), the material in question should be judged on its own merits. (If it's garbage, by all means kick it.) I was triggered to revert by lack of a comment explanation.--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 06:23, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Meatpuppetry was just one of the issues, although that's what started the ANI thread. Also flagged were concerns about WP:COI, WP:WEIGHT, WP:SPAM and in some cases (though not in this article) WP:MOS. Commented a couple times was that most country articles already had a "Human rights" section, and this section addition resulted in undue weight to this one particular human rights issue. The material has value, but likely would be a better fit in the "Human rights in (country name)" articles, such as Human rights in Cuba, although the mentions would need to be integrated into those articles and not blindly copy/pasted as was done in several country articles. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 07:09, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

HAPPY HOLIDAYS

		Happy holidays.
		Best wishes for joy and happiness. Раціональне анархіст Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 01:37, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

And a merry New Year!--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 21:13, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

thanks for the notice

I blanked the page on the O'Hare case, I always prepare just in case the report is verified, I had no clue they (Google) did that, thanks again for telling me, --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:40, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Flutist and TOC

As I mentioned in my edit summary, the reason to move the TOC is accessibility reasons for users of screen readers (aka blind). This is also done per WP:TOC and WP:LEAD.

If the TOC is after the first section heading, the TOC becomes invisible to those using screen readers. Also, if there is any text between the TOC and the first section heading, the text become invisible. I understand the frustration with the white space, it is common issue. But, it is more important that everybody can read the text. Bgwhite (talk) 06:11, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I've created a section on the MOS/lead TP to search for solutions.--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 06:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Talk:Flutist

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Talk:Flautist was copy/pasted rather than moved. move reverted, so now this duplicates Talk:Flautist

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You can't move a TP to a page that already exists. ...I also suspect that an AfD is the wrong way to deal with this.--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 22:53, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Nobody want's to move it and there is no AfD for it. I just redirected it to the correct talk page. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 22:58, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion -- this notice was automatic. It seemed most appropriate to me to delete the talk page given the large amount of duplicated text which looks odd in the history (none of it should be preserved), but there's not much harm in just restoring the redirect. Nobody's proposing to delete any of the articles on flutists. See my response to your merge/rename combo at Talk:Flautist. --— Rhododendrites \\ 23:00, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Раціональне анархіст, the talk page could have been easily moved by an admin. However, the article has been at flautist for 9 years, so a proper Misplaced Pages:Requested moves should be done. Whatever else do not make a "copy and paste" move, see Misplaced Pages:Copying within Misplaced Pages. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 23:09, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

A couple suggestions

AFD is not a vote: do not carry votes without providing a rationale based on our policies/guidelines, otherwise they will be ignored in the close
The same with similar comments. Read WP:Not notable. You have to explain WHY the subject fails (or meet) our notability requirements.
, Guidelines' criteria are not mutually exclusive. Failing one criterium does not mean failing all the criteria, and very rarely people meet ALL the criteria of a guideline.
Please read Misplaced Pages:Speedy keep. A close for "speedy keep" requires no votes from deletion from other participants.
Do not redirect articles nominated at AfD. It is considered disruptive. Even if te consensus at AfD is to redirect, wait the close.
Remember to notify the article's creator in their talk page when you nominate an article for deletion.

My best, Cavarrone 07:29, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointers; I've notified HenryLi (who has about forty other Hong Kong notability AfDs).--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 07:43, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Lars Walker

I've been bitten on this sort of thing myself -- for instance, I wrote the article on Baen author Ryk E. Spoor, and here's its AfD. If you can't show better notability sources for Walker than "a mention on the Baen.com page for his books" and "a mention on the site that publishes his column", I don't think the article on him will survive -- and from there, I don't think we could use it to support the Throne of Bones article.

Sorry. DS (talk) 21:47, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

It's really a deplorable state of affairs, isn't it? Misplaced Pages is being buried under an avalanche of plasticine pornstars who survive their AfDs because the direct-to-payweb smut industry has figured out how to game Misplaced Pages's rules by ensuring that everyone on and off the mattress is festooned with multiple "notable" <snort> awards. Meanwhile, writers of actual merit are ganked in broad daylight.

However, dogged persistence helps. (You wouldn't happen to have saved a copy of the Ryk page, would you? If I can find something, we could recreate it.)--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 03:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't need to save a copy. I'm an admin: I can access deleted content. If you can find other material to support that Ryk - or Lars - is notable, then go ahead, I'll restore. I'm always willing to retract deletion requests or restore pages in the face of proper sources. But I didn't find anything for Ryk (whose work I like), I didn't find anything for Lars (whose work I haven't read), and I didn't find anything for AToB. DS (talk) 04:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I found an independent review of a Lars novel, but cannot include it due to examiner being placed on the spamblock list five years ago. (I've created a discussion entry about that here.)--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 05:08, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Lars Walker for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Lars Walker is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in th discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Huon (talk) 02:20, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, it certainly didn't take them long. DragonflySixtyseven, I'm hoping you'll weigh in. Perhaps we can use the AfD discussion as a catalyst for improving the notability guidelines and/or resurrecting Ryk E. Spoor.--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 13:31, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

NO retaliatory actions!

Do not seek revenge against the deletion of Walker starting a bunch of AfD against random pornographic topics. This behaviour is considered disruptive and the only result you'll achieve will be to be blocked or banned. Read Misplaced Pages:Do not disrupt Misplaced Pages to illustrate a point. The previous deletion nominator of Brittney Skye engaged in this sort of behaviour and less than two weeks ago he was indefinitely banned from WP. Cavarrone 07:35, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate your warning and know it looks like sour-grapes, but the Lars Walker AfD episode (it has not been deleted as of yet, though I expect it to shortly given the prevailing sentiment) has simply made me more interested in AfDs (you'll note a lot of activity by me today, with only a portion of it related to pornography articles).--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 07:51, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

ebola/west africa

If you look under "WHO quote" on this talk page (third subject from top) I argued more or less the same, I gave an exhaustive explanation of Spanish influenza and Bubonic plague in contrast to the current outbreak, so I agree with you, having said that let's talk it out, there is no point in an edit war between anyone--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:00, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Technically speaking, I've only had one "revert" today (the first cut was just the elimination)...but I won't press the issue. But I certainly wouldn't mind seeing you zork it out if it comes back. I think as long as we tag-team sparingly within the rules, it shouldn't be difficult to firm up consensus.--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 15:11, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

ISIL

I expect you may be very interested in this discussion and the links off of it. Cheers Legacypac (talk) 09:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take a look at it.--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 09:20, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Porn AFDs

morning, just a word to the wise. You really need to include reference to checking sources and PORNBIO when you list stuff. It's going to struggle otherwise as the proporn crowd will attack you for being lazy or not doing due diligence as that's easier then defending the subject. Spartaz 10:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)