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Adjwilley is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Misplaced Pages around March 2015

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IMPORTANT: A last short needed look

Please see possible "closing arguments" here, . Settling this there, n that way, would end the issues raised in inordinate length earlier. Consider a final persuasive comment, on any matter you wish? Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk)

Seasons Greetings

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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015!!!

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As a WER coordinator

I wonder if you could add Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Nominations to your watchlist. I don't expect you to second nominations (that is what the page is for, although that would nice). Rarely there is a discussion regarding policy. There is one now. Your input would be helpful. Buster Seven Talk 21:46, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks again for your comment on the block. I appreciate that you noted I used the term 'edit' in my summaries. The 6 day (instead of 7) gap occurred because I was looking at the UTC time stamps and my West coast wristwatch. I was being lazy. Later I got a message on my talk page about the gap, but I've developed a habit of largely ignoring some messages. In any event the block was in place for less than an hour. If anyone points to it as an issue, I can point to the comments from Callanecc about how constructively I've acted. Please stay in tune and touch. – S. Rich (talk) 16:26, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Questions for Sherlock Holmes (you)

Holmes,

If I were willing to run the risk of creating multiple socks--an action that shows total disrespect for the community and the project, and would merit an immediate block--why wouldn't I, using "my" IPs, edit pages that fall within my topic ban?

Also, have you ever taken a basic statistics class? The odds that I am one of the IPs, based on the evidence provided, are something on the order of 1 in 5000, based on the number of other users who fit the profile of the IPs to the same extent that I do. Steeletrap (talk) 21:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh, dear. God old Sherlock. I wonder if he may have any idea who is behind this account whose three edits all consist of removing Austrian economists as sources? I saw you made one of the same argument once about Friedman not being an economist, but you later retracted that claim. I also happened to notice that a main theme for the IPs was to insert a claim about DSK falling prey to a honey trap. And you know, old ladies' mind wander, so the honey trap thing made me think about your username Steeletrap, and a particular line in an article you once edited In 2000, Cyndi had caught her husband looking for women in California on match.com; she posted her own profile with a fake name and got him to reply, after which she filed for divorce. But please, don't mind the rabblings of an old confused lady. Miss Marple (talk) 23:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Adjwilley, you write at SPI that you never know what to make of it when people attack the evidence. Really? Isn't that the purpose of the SPI, to evaluate the evidence? What do you make of independent third parties "attacking the evidence" on its merits. Isn't that what we strive for? What did you make of it in the failed SPI you previously filed against when your evidence was "attacked" and your claims were rejected? I suggest you disengage from Steeletap and move on. She's understandably upset, and her tone is rude, but she's entirely correct that your behavior is inappropriate. And is your talk page a place where others can come and cast aspersions on other editors? Iselilja if you intend to be stating an serious and well-documented concern then this is not the proper venue for that message. If not, it's harassment. SPECIFICO talk 22:32, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

PS Iselilja, did you realize that the edit you link refers to David Friedman, and not his economist father Milton Friedman? SPECIFICO talk 22:33, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, very much so. Iselilja (talk) 22:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, I doubt that would be clear to most readers, who will instead think that you meant Milton Friedman the economist not David the uncredentialed and largely unrecognized polyglot. In this context, that misunderstanding would further disparage Ms. Steeletrap, there being no question as to using that label for Friedman the father but some reasonable disagreement about whether it's verified as to his son. SPECIFICO talk 23:45, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

@Watson, I've had more statistics than your average college graduate, though I'm probably within one standard deviation of the mean :-). I do know better than to make up a 1 in x number and call it statistics. I actually am a huge advocate of using statistics in SPI investigations, and if I were a programmer I would have already written a script for people to use. Unfortunately I'm not, and I failed to convince anybody else to help me with it. I see SPI right now as being more like chicken sexing than statistics. It's hard to know what to look for, but some people (eg. clerks) happen to be good at it.

@Specifico, you seem to have misread my short comment on the SPI because that is not what I said. And I don't think Miles Money is a very good example for the point you're trying to illustrate. Thanks though for the reminder to disengage. ~Adjwilley (talk) 00:33, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

The example was not Miles Money, it was you. Your behavior in that matter was disgraceful and I'm disappointed to see that you've learned nothing from it. Your interactions were one of the factors that led to the self-destruction of this energetic, immature, erratic, but brilliant young editor. I hope that you don't think that pushing a vulnerable soul to the breaking point proves that false and unsupported aspersions cloaked in a matrix of nonsense called "evidence" is something we should pursue or condone on WP. Good for you disengaging. I have seen you do much better in your subsequent interactions, but your conduct in the events of 2013 and early 2014 was not well executed, nor was it constructive. Best of success to you. SPECIFICO talk 00:50, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

MilesMoney and StillStanding followed the same trajectory, with the exception that Miles bounced once at the end. They both chose their destination, despite multiple attempts to dissuade them. I tried to interrupt that trajectory, but it didn't work. I said it was a bad example because bringing that up mostly served to remind me that I respect MrX's intuition for socks, as he had he spotted Miles weeks before I ever did. The best evidence for a link between the two came long after the SPI was closed and archived, but by that point I didn't care to revisit the issue...but that's definitely not a discussion for today. ~Adjwilley (talk) 01:14, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Miles, a teenager, was much more articulate and knowledgeable than most WP users I've come across. His anger was directed at people who added WP:Fringe pet theories to mainstream economics articles. Why did we kick him out? He was open to mentorship. Steeletrap (talk) 21:20, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Regarding your last revert...

Hi Adjwilley, I seem to have thoroughly explained the reasons for the change in talk page. Which parts are still not clear? (Ho visto che parli italiano... se ti è più comodo, possiamo parlarlo fra di noi :D ) CallAng222 (talk) 17:30, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Grazie per il messaggio :-) I'll have a closer look tomorrow. ~Adjwilley (talk) 07:49, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Your post

I would be willing to stay away from editing the e-cigarette articles for three months, back dated to my last edit there on the 11th. AlbinoFerret 04:28, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, I appreciate your willingness to step away from the dispute. I had a year in mind, since that would be more in line with what many are saying on the AN/I thread, and with Misplaced Pages practice. That said, I think 6 months would be long enough, so if you agree to that I will close the thread accordingly. Understand that I expect you to leave the topic area completely, and not try to continue the dispute elsewhere. I think a clean break and some distance is needed. Also, although this would be voluntary, a return to the topic area before the 6 months are over would likely be seen as a basis for making it an official topic ban. ~Adjwilley (talk) 04:56, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Does that mean I would be unable to post on the problem presently at arbcom or raise issues at arbcom over the harassment that was closed at AN/I?AlbinoFerret 05:02, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

You would still be able to post at Arbcom as that is considered "legitimate dispute resolution" (see WP:BANEX) but I don't think it will be necessary. I doubt the case is going to be accepted. Also, even though BANEX says you can revert vandalism, I've seen people blocked for doing just that because of disagreements on what constitutes "vandalism". By far the best thing to do is to just remove all e-cig pages from your watchlist and set a 6 month reminder on your calendar. ~Adjwilley (talk) 05:09, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

6 months it is, then. This is not an admission that I have done anything wrong. I am just kind of sick of the constant fighting going on there anyway. But after my post, I hope arbcom takes the case. AlbinoFerret 05:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good, thank you. ~Adjwilley (talk) 05:18, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, talking is better than AN/I. AlbinoFerret 05:24, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

I've closed that portion of the thread. Keep your nose clean, and let me know if you have any questions or concerns. In this case it's better to ask permission than forgiveness :-) ~Adjwilley (talk) 05:49, 16 March 2015 (UTC)