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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spearmind (talk • contribs) 19:27, 9 March 2015
Ongoing conflict in Talk:Foie gras
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You have been notified
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Atsme 19:44, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Just a quick message
Just popping by to say that I saw your last reply after RexxS comment, and I think we have a clear enough understanding of where each other is coming from to drop the topic, declare a truce and move on. I blanked the discussion at my talk because it seemed to be drawing in yet more people and I suspect further discussion isn't going to be terribly helpful at the moment. I said my piece at the RfC and am content to await further developments. Cheers and all that. Montanabw 00:45, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- thanks very much for reaching out! so kind of you. Jytdog (talk) 01:27, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
I just want to say thank you again for your time and patience. I apologize for my ignorance about the rules and protocols at Misplaced Pages. I really don't use Misplaced Pages and am not acquainted in its dynamics. My frustration with my bio has been considerable and that along with ignorance is the explanation for my behavior, which offended you. I have apparently been authenticated and am now taking your advice to proceed very slowly with edits one word or fact at a time. There are many errors in my bio, but taking them one at time slowly is apparently the way Wikipeida works. Thank you for pointing all of this out, even if it did take awhile for it sink in. All the best. Rick Alan RossRick A. Ross (talk) 13:14, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Publication bias
Greetings! Do you have an access to this article? If so, could you please send me that one? I'd like to see if and how they might have possibly studied the subject. Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 14:47, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- check your email Jytdog (talk) 14:54, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Using preview
Jytdog, I'd like to ask you to stop changing your posts and timestamps. The former means people are replying to words that no longer exist, and the latter makes diffs harder to find after the fact. It also means there are lots of edit conflicts. If you could use preview more, it would be very helpful. Sarah (SV) 16:34, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- per WP:REDACT, an editor can edit a comment if it has not been responded to. after it has been responded to, yes, redaction via markup is required. no one had responded to my post yet. Jytdog (talk) 16:37, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- I was in the process of responding to it. Everyone makes mistakes, but changing posts as a matter of routine can cause problems. If respondents notice that you've changed your post in significant ways, before they've saved their reply, they then have to change theirs. If they don't notice, it means they've responded to something that's no longer there, and have to leave a second post explaining, as I just had to do. I've noticed that people have mentioned this to you a few times, so it would be extremely helpful if you could use preview more. Sarah (SV) 17:04, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Botanical drug
 | On 14 May 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Botanical drug, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the first botanical drug approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration treats genital warts? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Botanical drug. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 19:40, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
COIN or SPI noticeboard?
I'd appreciate your advice on what to do with Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/BiH which seems to be going nowhere. Perhaps it is better raised at the COIN? Or maybe I should just wait for the SPI to happen? — Brianhe (talk) 20:14, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Long spine board
Come chat with me in the talk section. --WikiTryHardDieHard (talk) 17:38, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- done! :) Jytdog (talk) 18:01, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Eric Braverman
I removed what I saw to be some pov and promotional wording from Eric R. Braverman and cleaned the article up a bit with wording, links, format, etc. What else needs to be addressed to remove the tag? Also, that entire "Caveats" section is unreferenced. Are there sources for that? Thanks. MiamiDolphins3 (talk) 22:03, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- funny that you reached out to me - I was about to reach out to you.. see your talk page in a minute. thanks. Jytdog (talk) 22:19, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Thrombocytopenia
Jytdog could I get your opinion on this articles talk page in regards to the "treatment table".thanks--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- what about it in particular? Jytdog (talk) 22:41, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- I was thinking about getting rid of it, in place of a paragraph or two--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- i don't think it's a bad thing, format-wise. it could be made into prose, and that would be more standard for sure. but more importantly. it is not sourced very well, and i'm worried that was in the table in that article, doesn't match up with the "main" articles for each disease. (the content in the table should just be a WP:SUMMARY of what is in the sub-articles that are linked-to in the table) -- often people just update the main article, and not the sub-articles. if i were working on that article, i would first check to make sure what ever is in the table is in the sub-articles, and if not, i would first get them updated. then i would make a summary of the subarticles (with refs) and update the main article. and yeah, i would probably go from table to prose format. i wouldn't fight about the format if other people really love the table. the main thing is the content. Jytdog (talk) 23:16, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- that's what I was thinking, it has no refs, and therefore should be started over...thanks--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 23:19, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- i don't think it's a bad thing, format-wise. it could be made into prose, and that would be more standard for sure. but more importantly. it is not sourced very well, and i'm worried that was in the table in that article, doesn't match up with the "main" articles for each disease. (the content in the table should just be a WP:SUMMARY of what is in the sub-articles that are linked-to in the table) -- often people just update the main article, and not the sub-articles. if i were working on that article, i would first check to make sure what ever is in the table is in the sub-articles, and if not, i would first get them updated. then i would make a summary of the subarticles (with refs) and update the main article. and yeah, i would probably go from table to prose format. i wouldn't fight about the format if other people really love the table. the main thing is the content. Jytdog (talk) 23:16, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- I was thinking about getting rid of it, in place of a paragraph or two--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
See...
...your user page.--TMCk (talk) 00:48, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- Totally missed that. thanks! Jytdog (talk) 01:05, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- I must be missing some background, because that comment read like time cube to me. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:06, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- yes very hard to figure out what was going with this editor - Special:Contributions/JARacino. either trolling (unlikely to me) or very sad. Jytdog (talk) 01:22, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- I must be missing some background, because that comment read like time cube to me. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:06, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Your deletion in Diabetes - possible cures or reversal
On my talk page you posted the Edit Wars template and the Real Science (RSPlease) template :
Medical references
Thank you for contributing to Misplaced Pages. Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations. (There are several kinds of sources that discuss health: here is how the community classifies them and uses them.) WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here.
We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note, or post to the talk page of the Misplaced Pages WikiProject Medicine
and signed both Jytdog (talk) 23:39, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Well yes, I feel free to drop you a note saying first and foremost that 'We' includes myself. Besides the fact that we at Misplaced Pages work together in good faith, and respect those who spend their time and efforts in order to bring quality content to our website, yours and mine.
You could at the least have had read my note on the article's talk page. Actually You SHOULD have been the one writing there first. I've been here on wp as you can see if you care to look at my modest contributions, for quite a time, received some stars and a few thanks here and there. I explained what may have happened on the article's talk page (I'm still not sure where exactly and in which part your criticism lies). I expect you to discuss it with me over there, and to give a bit more respect and credit to contributors. I realize that you follow a lot of corrupt or bad material, as I saw on your contribution page which is mostly negative, but still that should not be your immediate response to any editor who's edits you find problems with.
You simply erased my whole paragraph. You finally wrote on my talk page (nothing on the article's talk page, only templates with no specific information on mine) AFTER I wrote on the article's talk page explaining my good faith. So where is yours? Please refrain from being uncooperative with an active Misplaced Pages author who spends much of his time and works hard to bring scientific research based non-controversial well-sourced material to the Misplaced Pages, and instead, before erasing an entire section discuss the problems on the article's talk page. If you DO for some reason believe an extensive edit has problems that merit your deletion of it, at least notify the writer on his/her talk page... and BEFORE you do so, that would show them some degree of caring.
In any case I wish to emphasize a line in the Edit Wars template:
Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert.
So, since you are the first one to undo my work almost in whole and leaving only a very small "in part", you should notice that you too are warned not to remove my edit, and if you have, to put it back (with changes or warnings) until we have the discussion on the talk page.
Now, to completely change the tone, I truly wish to read your criticism, which I expect is probably mostly about the bypass surgery, and which, as you can see from many of my contributions in the past, I will be more than happy to accept in the combat against pseudo-science, and countering quackery, fads and scams, and to promote good science and scientifically acceptable medical practices. Yours faithfully, Moshe aka פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 00:46, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- yep, i missed your note on the Talk page. replying there
Methylhexanamine
Hello. Why have you removed a mention of another compounds?87.252.225.23 (talk) 14:29, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
- per my edit note you appear to be a sock of the blocker user Nuklear, and I reverted per WP:REVERTBAN. Your edits fall exactly into the pattern of his. Jytdog (talk) 14:40, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
- My adding of mention of Tuaminohexane is my first edit of this article. I don't know who is Nuklear and what does his sock mean.87.252.225.23 (talk) 14:44, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Silver
You removed mention of the fact that people invest in silver on the grounds that it was unreferenced, per the requirement for verifiability. People have chosen silver as a means to store their wealth for thousands of years. Did you look for reliable sources and fail to find any? If not a "citation needed" template would have been more appropriate that the removal of content. Edison (talk) 02:11, 24 May 2015 (UTC) Edison (talk) 02:23, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
- It took maybe 10 seconds to find via the Wall Street Journal article about investing in silver: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/want-to-invest-in-silver-read-this-first-2014-11-12
- great! Jytdog (talk) 07:16, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
- I said "store their wealth" but that is not a very good definition of "investing," where people generally hope to make a gain(if not a killing) rather than just preserving the value. It's like Will Rogers reportedly said after the 1929 stock market crash: "I used to worry about the return on my investment. Now I would just appreciate the return OF my investment!" Silver would allow the return OF investment, less storage costs and dealer markup getting in and out of the position. Regards. Edison (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
HFCS
Hi Jytdog. If you have time, it would be great if you could provide some input at High fructose corn syrup. Thanks. --sciencewatcher (talk) 17:23, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
COI query
Do e-cig users have a potential COI? I assume an e-cig user is someone who personally uses e-cigs. I don't understand all the details about WP:COI. Maybe you can clarify this. QuackGuru (talk) 23:02, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) No (imo). That's way too broad an interpretation of COI. Might as well ask if people who don't use (or dislike) them have a COI. --Middle 8 (t • c | privacy • COI) 23:53, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I've actually been thinking of that one for awhile too. I think there's strong potential for a user of a product to react in an advocate manner if they feel strongly about it, but that only just grazes the level of potential COI rather than actual demonstratable COI (which we'd normally bring up at COIN). In this case, better to just watch for advocacy-like behavior and bring it up at ANI if there is a strong and disruptive pattern of it. Kingofaces43 (talk) 00:06, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- No. A person who takes celecoxib doesn't have a COI for that article, per se. Nor does a doctor who prescribes it, per se. Somebody who works for Pfizer would. A doctor who is a paid consultant for Pfizer would. A doctor or patient who loves, loves, loves the drug might have advocacy issues, however. Anybody who headed an advocacy organization about celecoxib would have a COI and be an advocate. Jytdog (talk) 13:50, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
COIN inquiry re Template:Connected Contributor for CAm professionals at CAM articles
Hi Jytdog, I'm going to take this live, but first would be grateful for any feedback you may have (wording etc.). cheers Middle 8 (t • c | privacy • COI) 23:56, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
- I think that's a really, really, really, really, really bad idea. It opens the door to requiring similar templates when doctors edit medical articles, physicists edit physics articles, and so on. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:30, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- @ Short Brigade Harvester Boris - Agree; also agreed with your (related) comments at the recent RfC. The arguments for CAM-ers having COI are valid (as also are arguments against it), but implementing it is where it really gets problematic. That said, probably best that I refrain from commenting at COI/N since I'm initiating it. I do want to post it though in order to settle the issue; at Talk:Acu, I feel the template has somewhat been used in a rather POINT-y, poking manner. --Middle 8 (t • c | privacy • COI) 01:54, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- i replied there. Jytdog (talk) 13:48, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- @ Short Brigade Harvester Boris - Agree; also agreed with your (related) comments at the recent RfC. The arguments for CAM-ers having COI are valid (as also are arguments against it), but implementing it is where it really gets problematic. That said, probably best that I refrain from commenting at COI/N since I'm initiating it. I do want to post it though in order to settle the issue; at Talk:Acu, I feel the template has somewhat been used in a rather POINT-y, poking manner. --Middle 8 (t • c | privacy • COI) 01:54, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
conflict of interest
sorry if I came across as rude or unhelpful, not my typical style, but I guess everyone says that.18abruce (talk) 18:51, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- i didn't take any offense. :) Jytdog (talk) 20:58, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
COI or not at Ben Lang (entrepreneur)
Do you think this article and talkpage need the COI/Connected contributor tags? I'm not sure how strog the evidence of COI editing has to be. — Brianhe (talk) 04:35, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- i would start by approaching the creating editor who does appear to have a COI, and leave off tagging for a bit, to see if diplomacy can bring them out. Let me know if you would like me to do that. I really appreciate all the COIN-related work you do! Jytdog (talk) 10:45, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, please do contact him. I'll lay off for a bit. And thanks for the encouragement. Brianhe (talk) 15:29, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
HFCS
Re: this, do you think it's best to visit WP:SPI at this point? If we're really dealing with socks (still trying to digest all this) we're looking at 13 reverts at least by one person in less than a day. Even though the page is protected I get the feeling there are larger behavior issues that need to be addressed (something like seven reverts without socks), so maybe AN3 needs to be visited if SPI doesn't really fit with this case? I'm open to opening a case at either if it seems like the last option, but I just wanted to see if you had any other thoughts. Kingofaces43 (talk) 04:22, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note but the most grievous thing in my eyes is the socking. That is really upsetting as I really thought there were at least two editors opposing, but it was just the one. That is the heart of a SOCK violation. The page is protected so edit warring is moot for the edit warring board. They only care about active edit wars there. Jytdog (talk) 04:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
ANI
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 07:05, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Strong-arm_tactics_by_Jytdog ip editor opened it.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 07:06, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
ANI South Beach Diet
Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Anmccaff (talk) 19:20, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- this seems to be my day for flakey admin board filings. Jytdog (talk) 19:34, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
comment
I just want to say thank you again for your time and patience. I apologize for my ignorance about the rules and protocols at Misplaced Pages. I really don't use Misplaced Pages and am not acquainted in its dynamics. My frustration with my bio been considerable and that is the only excuse for my behavior. I have apparently been authenticated and am now taking your advice to proceed very slowly for edits one word or fact one by one. There are many errors in my bio, but taking them one at time slowly is apparently the way Wikipeida works. Thank you for pointing all of this out, even if it did take awhile for it sink in. All the best. Rick Alan RossRick A. Ross (talk) 13:10, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note! I do understand your frustration. Good luck! Jytdog (talk) 13:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
| Thank you for defending me at WP:ANI against User:WordSeventeen. Thank you for finding evidence of their previous misdemeanours, which seemed to be a key factor in exposing their harassment. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:43, 28 May 2015 (UTC) |
Blackbeard
It's not altogether obvious why the declaration of COI in a company called Nautilus leads to a tag on Blackbeard. Could you expand the tag a little? --Dweller (talk) 13:27, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- Hm. OK. Jytdog (talk) 13:30, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
IP hopper?
A dynamic IP is not an "IP hopper". Dynamic IPs occur because of how the user's ISP operates and are beyond the control of the user. Intentionally changing IP addresses is another matter entirely. 32.218.35.36 (talk) 16:04, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
GMO RfC
I have a question I posted in the "Discussion" section. Hope you are able to answer it. TFD (talk) 03:13, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
I asked another editor, Andy the Grump, to look at the page. I have come across him in a number of articles that discuss academic consensus and thought his contribution could be helpful. TFD (talk) 22:20, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
- thanks! i like the way AtG thinks. the more the merrier. Jytdog (talk) 00:17, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Judith Butler
I'm not sure why you made this edit, removing most of Butler's honorary degrees and awards. It's not typical for academic to require every award given or appointment to be sourced, especially as she is such a well-known and prominent scholar. Do you have some reason to doubt that this information is accurate? Liz 14:02, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
- the addition of the Costa Rica degree prompted me to look at the sourcing. Good stuff and bad stuff needs to be sourced in a BLP article. Feel free to restore it if you like but please VERIFY it. Thanks for asking! Jytdog (talk) 14:04, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Are you a deletionist?
So, I see you just reverted my addition to Opioid. When I look through you contributions, I see one deletion after another, some of them much more effort than my trivial addition. You know, you could just add "Needs citation" if the addition really bothers you so much. Going around deleting other people's work is so destructive to the Misplaced Pages project. I know you've probably heard it all before, but Deletionists are the reason I don't bother editing here much. --Brian Fenton (talk) 15:40, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
- Content added without sourcing is not information - please feel free to add it back with good sourcing! Please! Jytdog (talk) 15:46, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
- I've added the comment again, this time with sourcing. But seriously, you're acting like you own the shop. Stop deleting other people's work! --Brian Fenton (talk) 08:15, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
MEDRS discussion
Hi Jytdog, I hope you don't mind that I've moved the list of former discussions to its own section. It was making it harder to find where to post. I think it's important that we develop something for the guideline this time and not let it slide, so I'd like to keep the discussion focused on how to find a solution. Sarah (SV) 22:46, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
ANI
There is currently a discussion at WP:AN/I regarding your refusal to provide a good-faith explanation for why you reverted my change. The thread is Jytdog repeatedly disregarding requests for explanations concerning an edit. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GrayDuck156 (talk • contribs) 02:32, 1 June 2015 (UTC) GrayDuck156 (talk) 02:36, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
COI tag on Talk:Underwater diving
Hi Jytdog, You have tagged talk:Underwater diving with a COI for user:Caprockranger, who has made no edits to that article which suggest a COI to me. Could you explain the motivation for this tag? Maybe I have missed something. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 08:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Pbsouthwood per his userpage, he runs an underwater videography company and added references to himself and his company in content/refs/links of lots of articles. i blasted through and added connected contributor tags to all of them - you are right that he did nothing COI-y on that article in particular. thanks for asking! Jytdog (talk) 22:59, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
edited back
Hi Jytdog, On the GMF page I was in the throws of writing:
- Jytdog in a recent edit elsewhere you made an unexpected comment regarding your "
usual haters
". - You write things like, "
do not misrespresent what other people write
". - I said "
Please correct me if I am wrong in counting
" and openly pinged all editors for comment: - I would really like to it will help you if you spend some time to think around this issue.
- Jytdog in a recent edit elsewhere you made an unexpected comment regarding your "
I edited back on the first and last lines but suspect that this is something that you may seriously need to hear. I don't know you that well but the bits I have seen have for me raised questions. I know that there may be things on your mind at present but think that it may be to your advantage to take some time to think things through here. I don't mind if you delete any of this. It is just good faith concern. GregKaye 19:11, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- on the one hand, i appreciate you writing to me directly. on the other hand....
- i've written you about three draft replies now. here is the one i am going with:
- i walked away from my interaction with you on the Bfpage thing, where not a single other editor agreed with you, with concerns about you. Did i start to follow you around? No. I thought "whew, glad I don't interact with that guy much" and left that alone.
- So what did you do? You chose to jump into the ANI on me, and followed that to the subject article talk page here for example and now you have come here, to my talk page.
- So I would like you to rethink what you are doing. Would you have liked it, if I allowed my concern about you to drive me to start following you around? I doubt it. So please stop following me around. How did you say it? "it may be to your advantage to take some time to think things through here." Jytdog (talk) 20:05, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- and it is "throes", btw. Jytdog (talk) 21:23, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Honestly m8 I am trying to mention things to you for, IMO, the good of you as an editor and the good of the site. It is clear to me that you are a smart guy with the potential to do a lot of good and I have no objection to your basic editing stance. I also appreciate that I have had my own tussles on wiki on issues that I feel strongly about.
- Please consider not presenting, i think, selective interpretations etc.
- Yes, after I pinged you back into the Bfpage, I disagreed with the view that (with no warning having been given about anything other than hounding) the advocacy of a six month ban on the basis of a few edits of categories or whatever was way extreme. I also appreciate your early explanations to this editor. I think that it would have been helpful to this user to have confronted in regard to specific behaviours for change and so as to ensure the development of understandings rather than merely slapping on an extensive ban in the context of consistently denying an editors right to reply and walking away. However I recognise that this is a general issue with Misplaced Pages, at least as I see it, so I don't in any way intend to point everything at you.
- Yes I made a strong initial statement at the ANI. The ani regarded "
.. repeatedly disregarding requests for explanations ..
" which, as far as I saw it, had been precisely my experience. Please do not take up interpretations that I "follow you around
". Please consider, even with this, how instantly argumentative this is. - In the thread related to your ANI case you are fighting for the keeping a citation that contains text that actually opposes the content presented in the Misplaced Pages text. Please for the good of Misplaced Pages time and for your own arguments consider whether, I believe, ludicrous arguments like this are worth fighting. Misplaced Pages needs editors like yourself to please be wp:here for the sole purpose for the development of encyclopedic content working, in all ways practicable, in collaborative cooperation with other editors. In the thread I know another editor asked about the location of a RfC and, maybe it was me, but even in this I couldn't see reply. Making a claim for support of an argument and then not providing reference to your source is not fair. This is a small point to the others mentioned as related to the inclusion of the who citation at that point in the text.
- Ironically my reaction to your "
usual haters
" my have jumped hack at me. Stands that I have taken of the talk pages on the Israel and Antisemitism articles have led to a period of vandalism on my talk page which, with exquisite timing, has only just come to light, and I thought that it might be involvements with ISIL that might lead to trouble. - I am still not convinced that Bfpage was tackled on the motivation related to Misplaced Pages behaviour and not due to underlying issues of bias one way or another and would wish that everyone related to the case can reflect on why they are here.
- That's all I really wanted to say. Again I think that it was just another "fortune" of timing that may have allowed me to toss my two pence worth into the ring. Try not to stir up unnecessary opposition for yourself.
- If you have concerns regarding myself then I will be in no way offended by anything fairly presented. I probably share the same concerns.
- Be well. GregKaye 05:22, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- and it is "throes", btw. Jytdog (talk) 21:23, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
note from clockback
In response to your ridiculous suggestion on the "Peter Hitchens" wi8kipedia entry, Do please try not to be so silly. See the note on that page from many years ago 'Of course I edit this entry'(April 2008, I think it dates from) . I have done it quite openly under my own name, and have limited myself very carefully to correcting factual errors made by others, which I am in a unique position to put right. On this occasion, I have been trying to insert a photograph of myself. The photographer has given me his written permission. I had taken it through the entire wikimedia commons procedure following all the required stpes. And an officious person then removed it without explaining why, and needlessly *deleted* it so that I have to trudge through the whole weary procedure again. I am seeking HELP from wikipedia editors in reinstating t, and get nno help, just these futile heavy-handed bureaucratic bureaucratic interventions. Peter Hitchens logged in as Clockback Clockback (talk) 20:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clockback (talk • contribs)
- So COI in WP is silly but the presence or absence of picture of you is dire. OK then. Jytdog (talk) 20:57, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
User:2600:1010:B04A:5273:7F:BB10:CBE2:75EB
Any idea who 2600:1010:B04A:5273:7F:BB10:CBE2:75EB might be? I can only make out a temporal connection. This page he edited is now on my watch list.--Aspro (talk) 22:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- no idea. i assume you mean the revert at march against monsato, right? If part of your question is - was that me, the answer to that is no. Jytdog (talk) 22:56, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
re. revert
Good doggy :) --TMCk (talk) 20:53, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- re. copy-vio: If you point it out to me I'll take a look and fix/remove it later.--TMCk (talk) 20:56, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Sawdust Art Festival
Thanks for the COI assist on this one, much appreciated. §FreeRangeFrog 17:17, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- thanks! turned out to be mostly fans, rather than paid, it seems. they were hot to get that done! Jytdog (talk) 17:43, 2 June 2015 (UTC)