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DegenFarang

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04 July 2015

– This SPI case is open.

Suspected sockpuppets


First time I've filled one of these out. DegenFarang is already banned for abusive editing, sockpuppetry and making physical threats. Handpolk is almost certainly another sock of DegenFarang. The evidence is in the hyper aggressive tendentious editing with anyone who has a different point of view than him; 2) Handpolk's editing of a selection of obscure articles that were among the very few that DegenFarang also edited; 3) the common obsession with the word "peacock"; 4) the defiant assertion that he will vigorously "ignore all rules"; 5) Handpolk blanks his talk page like DegenFarang did. Additionally, Handpolk has been an editor for one month has gotten blocked, ANI, and has a talk page history that reads like the Spanish Inquisition (while also never sounding like a "new" editor at all).

First, the IAR. Here is DegenFarang one, two, three. Here is Handpolk.

Here is a page of Handpolk's edit circa June 28, and the obsessive use of peacock. Here is DegenFarang's obsessive use of peacock one, two, three.

Blanking the talk pages DegenFarang and Handpolk.

Among the smallish numbers of pages Handpolk has edited one that has only a few technical edits in the past two years since DegenFarang last slashed by. The same here where Handpolk decides to an AFD on article that was previously "snow keep" when Degen Farang nominated it. This obscure article was one of the few ever created by DegenFarang but then also gets an edit by Handpolk. The chances these two editors are different based on the edits to these three articles alone are astronomical, given the small number of articles edited ever by DegenFarang and Handpolk.

Handpolk also posts bogus warnings on talk pages here, and here.

He is now removing and reverting various edits I have made, including on AFD and other people's talk pages. He needs to be permanently banned and IP blocked again. (I want to check the checkuser box but I don't see it.) 2005 (talk) 04:38, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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The accusation and the "evidence" are absurd. 2005 fails to mention that article is one of a couple dozen I have nominated for deletion. I've also been on Misplaced Pages for a year editing a broad array of articles and topics. I referenced WP:IAR one time and quickly said WP:BOLD was more appropriate to make my point. Now I see why 2005 was triggered and refuses to let that go. The truth is this editor thinks they WP:OWN WikiProject Poker and pretty much every poker BLP -- and consensus is for deleting lots of his pet articles. He's desperate and trying to get rid of the editor driving that effort.
  • While this investigation is ongoing, somebody please warn this editor against making this accusation in other venues, as they are currently doing across numerous talk and discussion pages. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 05:08, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

It would appear that DegenFarang has circumvented his ban by using a sock Handpolk and has reinitialize his campaign against user:2005

This does have all the tell-tale hallmarks of DegenFarang, like these simultaneous AfDs by Handpolk All of which are still active.

The simultaneous AfDs by DegenFarang was pointed out by User:Toohool "Degen has also AFD'd 5 articles created by 2005 in the span of half an hour. (1 2 3 4 5)" (which can be read here the last time I saw something like this)

Some of nominations were first gutted by DegenFarang under the guise of following policy, he was warned not to do this by Amalthea "If you send an article to AfD, don't gut it first. If the material is problematic, point it out in the AfD instead" here and here

Hand poker would also gut articles after AfD after AfD

I notice it's been DegenFarang's habit to game the system by citing policies during his disrupted editing and was a particular admire of the pillar ignore all rules that is often misused, the "new" editor Handpoke hasn't made any edits to poker related articles until this last month with one exception being his 14th ever edit to the article cardrunners as noted above this article was created by DegenFarang also unusual about Handpoke is if you start from his very first few edits its that this does not appear to be that of a genuine new user but someone already familiar with Misplaced Pages by giving his philosophical views of Wikipedias policies and practices on his user page something that DegenFarang also would do. I acknowledge only one Misplaced Pages rule, WP:IAR. If you would like to speak to me in general terms, using real words, please leave your comments here. If you are here to do some WP:WIKILAWYERING or otherwise cite WP:RULES or WP:POLICIES to me, of any kind, I will likely remove your comment with no response. DegenFarang

Look at handpoke history He made uncontroversial edit to cardrunners on January 1, 2015 he didn't make another poker related edit until June 5, 2015 on the Shirley Rosario here what telling here is that his 1st ever edit was to an article that DegenFarang created and that his 2nd ever poker edit was to an article that user:2005 created and that DegenFarang tied to AfD twice. ] January 23, 2010 , and a malform attept here was reverted because it still linked to the old AfD. also see edit history

his 3rd was on June 17, 2015 Billy Baxter and his 4th less than a week ago June 27, 2015 right before going into overdrive.

The Steve Badger article was created by User:2005 on February 25, 2006‎ edit history

  • January 18, 2010 DegenFarang nominated the article Steve_Badger for AfD for the 1st time (at the time it wasn't a disambiguous page)

the 2nd 12 February 2013 by DegenFarang the 3rd by Handpolk on 3 July 2015

Some background

over 6 years ago in January 2009 DegenFarang would edit poker biographies and articles with the website the ThePlayr.com a citation which were identified and removed by user:2005 as an unreliable source. DegenFarang didn't take well to this and issued this threat on User:2005 talk page.

"Ok I guess what they are doing then is within the Wiki rules, I thought detailed pre-production speculation was not allowed. I disagree with you that ThePlayr.com is not a reliable source. Especially since you link to poker-babes.com constantly and I suspect you own or work for that site. Unless you stop reverting my edits, I am going to continue to remove any reference to poker-babes.com from anywhere on wikipedia as you are clearly spamming this site. I wouldn't waste my effort to stop you except you appear to be willing to go to any length to stop me from making any contribution to wikipedia...so I'll return the favor. Or you can just leave me alone, its your choice. DegenFarang (talk) 16:46, 11 January 2009 (UTC)" here

From that time an edit war began DegenFarang going throw many biographies & removing poker-babes.com from external links former admin User:Balloonman and member of wikipoker project (now retired) tried to intervene on both talk pages and (Note that 7 out of 15 Handpolk's AfD noms Starla Brodie, Jackie McDaniels, Alexander Borteh, Ernest Bennett, Don Baruch, Dao Bac, Dave Alizadeth were created by User:Balloonman who blocked DegenFarang twice once for an hour another for a week.

  • Handpolk edit of user:2005 talk page

"friendly advice

As you seem to have these issues with many people the solution seems very simple. Some people don't appreciate your attitude and the way you try to own the whole poker topic. Learn to get along with others, be nice and be open to collaboration -- and maybe you can keep some of your pet BLP's. Continue on with this approach and people will keep making things hard for you out of spite. Your choice. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 08:51, 4 July 2015 (UTC)"here

It look as Handpolk had a discussion at the WikiProject Poker about Biography article notability criteria that were brought about about by consensus here and decided to unilaterally make changese himself invoking WP:BOLD here never having been part of the project making of the changes and AfDs in a weeks time.

DegenFarang edit. "Jastcaan, nice work. See WP:IAR. You were being WP:BOLD. Don't let people bully you with their WP:WIKILAWYERING. If you don't like something, change it. And don't feel the need to apologize to anybody for anything. DegenFarang (talk) 16:15, 15 January 2010 (UTC)"

other ANI of DegenFarang nearly all to do with his campaign against user:2005

July 2011 August 2011

April 2012 Beeblebrox ask for a mentor/advisor for DegenFarang and was acceped by madman Later DegenFarang was blocked by him in feb 2013 after ignoring a topic ban

February 2013 ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡ 03:19, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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